Someone replacing the shutoff valve should have had LOTS of practice
with the manual shutoff by the time he/she gets around to replacing
it. I know I sure have pushed it a few times in the last week or so.
On 8/18/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you press on the shutdown lever
Potter, Tom E wrote:
I stopped one with a denim jacket once, so I know it works. Also, the
M-B diesel has no plastic parts in the intake tract.
Maybe no plastics in 123 and older cars (isn't the "U" from the air
filter to the turbo intake made from soft synthetic plastic?), but there
is both
What about that gooseneck going from the air cleaner to the turbo on
my 617? Looks plastic to me, sturdy though.
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/18/05, Potter, Tom E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I stopped one with a denim jacket once, so I know it works. Also, the
> M-B diesel has no plastic parts in t
LT Don
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I was thinking something like a beach towel, not a plastic bag.
On 8/17/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marshall Booth wrote:
> > 2. Shut o
Mathieu J. Cama wrote:
> The early VW diesels (A1, A2 chassis) will keep on running until it runs
> out of fuel or something catastrophic happens.
If the alternator dies on an early VW diesel, it will run until the
battery voltage drops too low to hold the stop solenoid open. I've
heard as littl
I was thinking something like a beach towel, not a plastic bag.
On 8/17/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marshall Booth wrote:
> > 2. Shut off air (easiest way is to direct a CO2 extinguisher into the
> > air intake) and that MIGHT be by covering the air intake if nothing else
> >
J.B. Hebert wrote:
> That would be great on a VW diesel, but most MB diesels have a
> mechanical fuel pump.
So do pre-TDI VW diesels.
Marshall Booth wrote:
> 2. Shut off air (easiest way is to direct a CO2 extinguisher into the
> air intake) and that MIGHT be by covering the air intake if nothing else
> were available.
I'd be slightly surprised if covering the intake worked. A friend of
mine tried it on a VW diesel once, and
Thanks for the pointer, Peter. I will do everything Marshall suggested
and will also do what you suggested.
I have total confidence on my ability to do this job without
destroying my engine. But military aviation ingrained into me the need
to always have a plan in my back pocket in case things sud
CO2 extinguisher or open the cap nuts on the injection lines (17mm on a
61x, 14 mm on a 60x engine). MB recommends loosening the lines.
DO NOT use a towel on a turbo equiped engine, it WILL get ingested
(possibly along with you fingers or hand).
Have the wrench in your hand when you start th
Tim,
You've got it. The shut off stops fuel flow.
Mathieu
At 02:29 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote:
I've found the manual shutoff for the VW TDI engine. It's similar to
my MB 617, but it doesn't have the big red stop sign on it. I
understand that it shuts off the fuel flow. That's how the MB shutoff
w
I've found the manual shutoff for the VW TDI engine. It's similar to
my MB 617, but it doesn't have the big red stop sign on it. I
understand that it shuts off the fuel flow. That's how the MB shutoff
works, right?
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/17/05, Mathieu J. Cama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim,
All the diesel VW's I've seen have electric fuel pumps, so I would assume
that no juice means no vroom. Some models may be different, however.
J.B.
At 02:06 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote:
So my VW diesel will stop running eventually if I unhook the battery?
All I really need my battery for in the
Tim,
The early VW diesels (A1, A2 chassis) will keep on running until it runs
out of fuel or something catastrophic happens. I cannot speak about the TDI
though, too new for me. They may have controls on the IP that need
electricity to work. I simply do not know.
Mathieu
At 02:06 PM 8/17/20
So my VW diesel will stop running eventually if I unhook the battery?
All I really need my battery for in the MB is to start it up.
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/17/05, Mathieu J. Cama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These diesels do not have electronic fuel pumps. Once started, these motors
> needs no e
These diesels do not have electronic fuel pumps. Once started, these motors
needs no electricity to stay running.
It would be nice if it were that simple.
Mathieu
At 01:29 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote:
How bout a home made kill switch?
Take a fuse that will fit for your fuel pump. burn it. solder
>
>
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>
> Steve MacSween wrote:
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rshall Booth
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> Steve MacSween wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >
> >>Will someone please review for me the ways
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Steve MacSween wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>>Will someone please review for me the ways to quickly kill the engine
>&
Steve MacSween wrote:
Push down all the way on the (vertical) linkage rod that actually works on
the injector pump. Or was that pull up? No, must be down. (Can't go out and
look, car is not here.)
The STOP button does that anyway, no? If your stop button does not work then
you have a major lin
Steve MacSween wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will someone please review for me the ways to quickly kill the engine
if disaster should strike? The ones that come to mind are firing a CO2
fire extinguisher into or stuffing a towel into the air cleaner.
Push down all the way on the (vertical
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Will someone please review for me the ways to quickly kill the engine
> if disaster should strike? The ones that come to mind are firing a CO2
> fire extinguisher into or stuffing a towel into the air cleaner.
Push down all the way on the (vertical) linkage rod that act
LT Don wrote:
I am hoping to receive my new shutoff valve from Rusty today/tomorrow
and am anxious to do the intallation.
Even though I fully understand that if you do this job right there is
no danger of destroying the engine due to a run-away, I want to be
prepared for a worst case scenerio.
It does not work in that case.
At 11:11 AM 8/17/2005, you wrote:
No, I think the emergency stop doesn't work if the shutoff valve isn't
in correctly.
On US motors the STOP button does not move. This will only apply to Euro
motors and the later pumps in the 60X motors.
At 11:11 AM 8/17/2005, you wrote:
What he means is when the "stop" button won't work. A dire
emergency. Don, do this:
1: Put the new valve back in place
2: Leave all 4 bolts
No, I think the emergency stop doesn't work if the shutoff valve isn't
in correctly.
Personally, I like to loosen the injector lines from the injectors, pull a
vacuum with a mity-vac on the shut off valve, and then crank the motor. If
the valve is seated correctly there should be no fuel coming from the pump.
If there is fuel, it should be a good amount, and then, yes, the valve
: Aug 17, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] emergency shutdown procedures
Like the big "stop" button on the throttle linkage?
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/17/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
Like the big "stop" button on the throttle linkage?
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 8/17/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am I forgetting something that is easier?
I am hoping to receive my new shutoff valve from Rusty today/tomorrow
and am anxious to do the intallation.
Even though I fully understand that if you do this job right there is
no danger of destroying the engine due to a run-away, I want to be
prepared for a worst case scenerio.
Will someone ple
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