Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-29 Thread Jim Cathey
I have a 1999-vintage G4 tower Those have a pretty low power draw, something like 20W. (Assuming you didn't hot it up too much.) They'd be a fairly decent media server, assuming they'd be up to the task. Our dual and quad G5's are 10-20x the power draw, leave them on and you'd see it in your

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3. Though most days I'm using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-28 Thread Gary Hurst
i gave my g4 tower to my kid and she pretty much gave up on it. :( On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
My main laptop for dragging to work and on trips is a TiBook 1 GHz (2003), and my desktop is a MDD dual G4. I've been experimenting with later MacBook Pro's (reflowing the video chips), but I don't think they are as reliable. Good, solid machines. Peter

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a G4 Quicksilver sitting in the back bedroom acting as a backup machine. That's about as old as mine get. My current machine (which just recently replaced a C2D 20 iMac) is a Mac Pro 1,1 Intel. I want to upgrade the processors to 5355s and make it an 8 core machine, but I'm just not

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 11:54 PM -0400 10/26/13, Gary Hurst wrote: basically to run an email client or it can do more than that? Email, limited Net access and iTunes, basically. In a pinch, I can do simple graphics work on it. i had a bunch of pismos i gave away to some kid Got a stack of junker Pismos in

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, i loved that pismo. had 2 or 3 working ones and a few parts ones. i wish someone built a machine like that today. i liked how you could either plug in a drive or an extra battery :) i also had some small investment in PCMCIA stuff. not sure what happened to that. probably in the ex

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Pismo's were great -- with two batteries, I got upwards of 8 hours of run time, specially after new cells in the batteries. However, it was slow as molasses with Word, which I'm stuck with, and much heavier than the TiBook. My TiBook is back to full function now -- I lost a screw out of

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Don't remember any video chips cracking off the boards or stupid stuff like that in those days either (self-igniting Powerbooks aside, as that wasn't a Apple issue, it was a Sony battery issue that persisted for some years). Now they are high priced self-destructing throw- aways -- my

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
i still like big free standing desktop units. i dont' see how those laptops can work out consistently On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Don't remember any video chips cracking off the boards or stupid stuff like that in those days either

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Don't know if desktops are a habit or a requirement, but for most people it doesn't make any difference. In fact, for a lot of people, a smart phone is all they really use. Me, I have a couple SCSI scanners attached, two printers (and soon three when I get the BW R1800 fixed), so a

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
Speaking of reballing GPUs in G5 iMacs and others, I have two 20 G5 iMacs on my bench that need cap replacements. I have the caps, but I don't have a soldering iron that is hot enough for the newer solder they used. I should put one of those on my list Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 27,

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't know how many smartphones have 3 28 screens. i want big video and big audio On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Don't know if desktops are a habit or a requirement, but for most people it doesn't make any difference. In fact, for a lot of

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
I sold my 15 CD MacBook Pro last year to fund an iPad with LTE/3G. I got enough for it to buy a refurb iPad 2. Between the iPad and my desktop I can pretty much do everything I need. I don't miss the laptop at all. I would say that had I been able to find some sort of cellular arrangement for

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
i rarely need to be away from my computer, but i think a tablet would be adquate for me in that situation On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I sold my 15 CD MacBook Pro last year to fund an iPad with LTE/3G. I got enough for it to buy a refurb iPad 2. Between

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Dan Penoff
The Android OS on the HP TouchPad did everything I needed and more, and it was easily configurable and allowed me to tinker under the hood all I wanted. The was purportedly a Euro version of it that had LTE, but I've never seen one. The only determining factor was connectivity, but to be

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Speaking of bad caps, I have a MacBook Pro that is totally inert now except that the battery charges. Any chance of a blow fuse or bad cap on the logic board keeping it from booting? Acts as if the logic board has now power, and I don't really have the tools to investigate. Peter

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 1:55 PM -0400 10/27/13, Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, i loved that pismo. had 2 or 3 working ones and a few parts ones. i wish someone built a machine like that today. i liked how you could either plug in a drive or an extra battery :) Yep! With two batteries in good nick, that thing would

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread clay
Travel mac is a 2.2 core2 Duo macbook. I tote a airport express for secured wifi Desktop is a MacPro quad Xenon with 8 gig triple monitor and a bank of firewire externals for all my junk. Media Mac is a 2009 MacMini hooked to a 42 Sony. External drive has iTunes and ripped video. Two

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, that's kinda what i'm talking about. someone finally understands! On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 6:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Travel mac is a 2.2 core2 Duo macbook. I tote a airport express for secured wifi Desktop is a MacPro quad Xenon with 8 gig triple monitor and a bank of

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-27 Thread Brian Toscano
My buddy still uses his G5 w/ 30 Cinema display bit admits its getting tired. I still have my 2007 17 MBP though it too is getting tired. I don't need screens to just appear, but as the software becomes more complex it gets slower and slower. It can't really keep up with my scanner like newer

[MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Hurst
that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. i'm hoping to keep it working long enough to get it to 10 years old before considering retiring it. odds are not on my side to get it to the middle of 2015 -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Allan Streib
I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as my main computer for years (though at this moment I'm using and slowly transitioning to a mid-2007 iMac). Still use the old G4 on an almost daily basis though. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Hurst
this is good to hear. i don't think old things should be discarded simply because marketing types propping up consumerist society try to convince you to discard them and get something new. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
I use a 1999 G3 Lombard as my main laptop on the road... -MMM- On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is good to hear. i don't think old things should be discarded simply because marketing types propping up consumerist society try to convince you to

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Hurst
basically to run an email client or it can do more than that? i had a bunch of pismos i gave away to some kid On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:48 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: I use a 1999 G3 Lombard as my main laptop on the road... -MMM- On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM,

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Allan Streib
You may already be aware of [1]http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ which provides custom builds of Firefox for PPC Macs. It's the only way I know of to get a modern, updated web browser for these computers. No plugins though, so no Flash. I live quite happily without it, if you want to

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Jim Cathey
that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3. Though most days I'm using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from this G3 pismo. The only things these systems fall down on is surfing. The

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Hurst
i have flash on tenfourfox On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: You may already be aware of [1]http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ which provides custom builds of Firefox for PPC Macs. It's the only way I know of to get a modern, updated web

Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-26 Thread Gary Hurst
i am very happy to hear all this. i really thought i was alone in this On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3.