Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-26 Thread clay
As older homes upgrade to gas or get torn down, there will be less use for heating oil. There are also issues with sources of oil. Venezuelan crude is crap for motor fuel, but much better for diesel and kerosene. The stuff we produce in Texas and such is light sweet, Really nice for gasolin

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-26 Thread OK Don
Diesel is $3.70 - $3.80 here, same as premium gas. However, the economics don't matter in most cases, Diesel rocks and gas sucks. It's about the inherent superiority of Diesel technology over spark ignited gasoline. Mechanical elegance and all that. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-26 Thread Curt Raymond
-0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now: Message-ID:     <1395764657.28868.yahoomail...@web161803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Yes and no... Last I checked diesel was $4.05 and gas was $3.70, th

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-26 Thread Jim Cathey
...the diesel is only $2500 more. Every bit of which you'll get back on resale, at least around here. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-26 Thread Curt Raymond
d their value. Which is one important final point diesels really hold their value, waay better than gassers... -Curt Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:01:53 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now: Message-ID:     Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-26 Thread Dieselhead
I assume the price of Diesel is due to less refineriescommitted to making diesel? Which I assume is because of the difficulty getting construction and operating permits? Sincerely, Larry More like tight supplies in winter because the eastern yankees use it to heat houses in place of wood o

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread OK Don
Diesel is the same price as premium gas here. You have to remember that the fuel markets are world markets, not local, not US. A cold winter in the EU will also drive up Diesel costs. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > The price of diesel is reflective of the price of he

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
The price of diesel is reflective of the price of heating oil, or it used to be. We've had a cold winter in the East so lots of heating oil was consumed, and our diesel prices reflect that. Today we had the latest mostest snow I can remember (2 -3" in my back yard). On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:02

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Larry T
I assume the price of Diesel is due to less refineriescommitted to making diesel? Which I assume is because of the difficulty getting construction and operating permits? Sincerely, Larry On 3/25/2014 11:50 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: if i had the coin, i'd get two VW tdi's. a bug convertible and

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread clay
We ship diesel to the EU. It is more profitable. Lots of the crude up north is going to Asia, since it is more profitable to Korea and Japan, than having west coast refiners make domestic fuel. clay On Mar 25, 2014, at 1:58 PM, kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: > Yes I recall an oil analyst about

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Reuters seems to think that Americas cold winter and Europes limited refining capacity has created a shortage that has driven up the current diesel prices in both areas: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/markets-europe-products-idUSL5N0L320J20140129 Gerry On 3/25/2014 4:58 PM, kdwittn

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Right now the US is exporting lots of diesel to Yurp. --R On 3/25/14 4:58 PM, kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve refini

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread kdwittne...@yahoo.com
Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve refining capacity in North America so any increase in consumption of diesel would drive the price up and thereby nega

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Gary Hurst
if i had the coin, i'd get two VW tdi's. a bug convertible and a jetta wagon On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > >> Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a >> diesel >> is getting harder to monetarily

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell
On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder to monetarily justify. It's kind of ironic we suddenly have more choices. Bob R The TDI may still be a winner at close to 50 mpg as per Curt's experience. Al

Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder to monetarily justify. It's kind of ironic we suddenly have more choices. Bob R On Mar 24, 2014 6:02 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > > http://t.autos.msn.com/research/buying-advice/the-diesels-are-here-1#image=1

[MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:

2014-03-24 Thread OK Don
http://t.autos.msn.com/research/buying-advice/the-diesels-are-here-1#image=1 18 cars and one pick-up. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of

Re: [MBZ] new diesels

2006-09-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, they mentioned that Bluetec thing, urea injection into the exhaust to cut emissions. Sounds like a problem in the making, whether keeping the goo tank filled or how it works. Or maybe you just fill the tank up on long trips... --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] new diesels

2006-09-12 Thread Desert Rat
Just read somewhere that the 07 diesels aren't getting the new 7 speed? On 9/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> M, GL and R series will offer the V-6 diesel soon. My friend AC's '07 E320 Bluetec will be delivered in November. He will be selling his pristine '86 300E (79K mil

Re: [MBZ] new diesels

2006-09-11 Thread RELNGSON
<> M, GL and R series will offer the V-6 diesel soon. My friend AC's '07 E320 Bluetec will be delivered in November. He will be selling his pristine '86 300E (79K miles) at that time. RLE