Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, all versions. Max Dillon Charleston SC Aug 14, 2021 8:19:39 PM OK Don via Mercedes : > Does the 606 have a cat??? > I use a piece of welding rod to find TDC for each cylinder on the > Continental O-470 - works close enough. > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 6:36 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It is adjusted all the way to the left with no adjustment left and timing is sitting at 5 atdc. On 8/14/2021 7:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Why not just trust your A/B light and make the adjustment? Short of someone having twisted the pump around, and I can’t imagine it could

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Why not just trust your A/B light and make the adjustment? Short of someone having twisted the pump around, and I can’t imagine it could move that far, the A/B light should be dead nuts accurate. I think you’re making far more out of this than it needs to be. -D

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Does the 606 have a cat??? I use a piece of welding rod to find TDC for each cylinder on the Continental O-470 - works close enough. On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 6:36 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2021-08-14 18:43, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > Good idea, and

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-08-14 18:43, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Good idea, and good to know that diesel fuel won't run down into the crankcase very quickly and contaminate the motor oil. Good point. Diesel doesn't belong in the crankcase, and motor oil doesn't belong in the exhaust.

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That stretch sounds right. If the pointer was close to TDC when you had the drill bit shoved into the hole, that's not your problem and you need to pull and adjust the IP. DON'T FORGET to get a new oil seal o-ring for the IP!!! - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 6:49 PM

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I just pulled the valve cover. Apparently there is a special tool you use to stick in a hole at tdc. I did not have that so I just used a drill bit of a size that fits in the hole. It’s not exact but should be close enough and shows maybe 1-2 degrees of stretch at 207k miles. Looks good to me.

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Good idea, and good to know that diesel fuel won't run down into the crankcase very quickly and contaminate the motor oil. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 6:41 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2021-08-14 18:27, Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-08-14 18:27, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: On the peach parts forum, one guy said that he would find TDC (and be able to reset the pointer) by filling that cylinder with motor oil through the I'd use diesel fuel instead of motor oil. I'm sure the cat could deal with diesel more

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
All that tells me that the pump was pulled and put back wrong. You need a new oil seal for the IP most likely. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 6:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Either that or the pump was removed at some point and

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
On the peach parts forum, one guy said that he would find TDC (and be able to reset the pointer) by filling that cylinder with motor oil through the injector hole. Take that injector apart, remove the nozzle and holder and all the guts and use the body of the injector to plug the hole, then shove

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
So if the pointer got moved, but the pump didn't ever get moved, then most likely the chain is now stretched and the pump is late. So if you just want to take a guess and move the pump to see if you can improve the smoke situation, then I'd say advance it a few degrees and see how she runs.

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes you need to pull the vacuum pump, and the nut on the end of the IP shaft is backward - left-handed thread, IIRC. If you go that far and pull the IP, the oil seal (big o-ring) on the injection pump may start leaking, if you don't replace it. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Aug 14,

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 606 ip timing

2021-08-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Either that or the pump was removed at some point and when reinstalled was off a tooth. Perhaps I should just pull the pump and see. Oh wait, won’t I also have to pull the vacuum pump as well? Not really sure I want to get into all that although it probably won’t take all that long since I have