Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-23 Thread Bill
Amen. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam I really don't want to wade into this, but I couldn't disagree wit

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:52:18 -0400 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Didn't TRY to win it 'til 18 Dec 72, the beginning of Linebacker II. > When I departed Hanoi the last time the night of 29 Dec, though, i

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
I really don't want to wade into this, but I couldn't disagree with you more, Craig. We are not giving Iraq away to anyone except to the Iraqi citizens. It is their country, not ours. I'm not willing to kill another American teenager just to save face in a war that was not justified in the first p

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:52:18 -0400 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Didn't TRY to win it 'til 18 Dec 72, the beginning of Linebacker II. > When I departed Hanoi the last time the night of 29 Dec, though, it had > finally been fought with "no holds barred" and won - the North > Vie

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-16 Thread Gary Hurst
slovakia. land of the carpathian mountains and HNL hockey greats. On 10/16/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peraps you meant Slovenia? That is a comparative garden spot. > > On 10/15/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > i'm thinking slovakia > > > > On 10/15/07,

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Peraps you meant Slovenia? That is a comparative garden spot. On 10/15/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i'm thinking slovakia > > On 10/15/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That is where we have had the most out migration to in recent > > decades. I would think that we

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm thinking slovakia On 10/15/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That is where we have had the most out migration to in recent > decades. I would think that we are not as welcome as we think we > would be. Better to head off to Mexico or Poland > > clay > > On 15 Oct 2007, at 11:17, Wo

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
I tuned 18 in December of 1970. Already had one semester of college under my belt (student deferment) and had a high draft number as extra insurance. Ironically, I joined the Coast Guard in July of 1975, shortly after hostilities ended, and stayed for twenty years. On 10/15/07, Peter Frederick <[

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Redghost
That is where we have had the most out migration to in recent decades. I would think that we are not as welcome as we think we would be. Better to head off to Mexico or Poland clay On 15 Oct 2007, at 11:17, Wonko the Sane wrote: > Wonder if Canada can absorb the sudden influx of immigratio

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Start up a draft and see what happens! I missed the Vietnam mess by a matter of months -- Selective Service number of 3. Stopped drafting three months before I was due to be called up in 1975. Peter On Oct 15, 2007, at 9:57 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > i'm of an age where i'd have been too young

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond
it did, my representatives largely talked against the war anyway... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:14:38 -0400 From: Wray Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; for

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
Wonder if Canada can absorb the sudden influx of immigration from the US? On 10/15/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > excellent point. young people would be more interested if they were being > conscripted. maybe that is the lesson our leaders took form vietnam -- > don't do it unless

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Gary Hurst
excellent point. young people would be more interested if they were being conscripted. maybe that is the lesson our leaders took form vietnam -- don't do it unless you have a volunteer military. On 10/15/07, Wray Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > i'm of an age where i'

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Wray Stanley
Gary Hurst wrote: > i'm of an age where i'd have been too young to have served in vietnam, but > am old enough to have seen the effects the war had on our country. having > even peripherally lived through that, the lesson to avoid future vietnams is > firmly burned into my psyche. > > you can ima

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm of an age where i'd have been too young to have served in vietnam, but am old enough to have seen the effects the war had on our country. having even peripherally lived through that, the lesson to avoid future vietnams is firmly burned into my psyche. you can imagine how shocked and horrified

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Rick Knoble
>> I wish someone could explain why Congress plays dead on this issue. >> > Congress is afraid of two things; being accused of not supporting the > troops, and of another terrorist attack. Make that three. Not being re-elected is the third. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT _

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Wray Stanley
wilton strickland wrote: > Glad you made it home, Wray. Too, too many did not, as you know well. > > Wilton Thanks, Wilton. About 25,000 after our leaders had decided we couldn't win that war. Wray ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-15 Thread Wray Stanley
Peter Frederick wrote: > Hear hear! > > I wish someone could explain why Congress plays dead on this issue. > Congress is afraid of two things; being accused of not supporting the troops, and of another terrorist attack. To be fair they are not exactly playing dead, they haven't so far been abl

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Sad day when the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter (and others of the same ilk) are considered main stream media. Most of the "normal" media has been neutral to opposed to the Iraq fiasco for some time now, just the right wingers are still in favor, sort of. That does not absolve the main

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam Hear hear! I wish someone could explain why Congress plays dead on this issue. Peter ___ http

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Hear hear! I wish someone could explain why Congress plays dead on this issue. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-14 Thread OK Don
To some degree, that's what we did in 2006 --- didn't go far enough though. > > The power to declare war is strictly in the hands of the legislative branch. > When our Congresscritters passed a resolution in 2002 that basically said > "we abdicate our responsibility and delegate this decision to t

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > I truly believe that any Commander in Chief who sends troops into harm's way > should be required (by law) to immediately put any military-eligible family > members into uniform and into the war zone. The power to declare war is strictly in the hands of the legislative br

Re: [MBZ] 52s in Nam

2007-10-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
My only comment on the issue will be this, because there are some issues on which I need to limit my input ('cause I will end up saying too much), and because this is Mercedes, not Banned. But ... I truly believe that any Commander in Chief who sends troops into harm's way should be required (by