Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-17 Thread Jim Cathey
> OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of > what is inside the hydropneumatic device fitted to W108 rear axles. So far as I know, it's more like a hydraulic bottle jack, I'm not sure if it pumps air or fluid as the thing flexes. I believe its problem is that the seals

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread LarryT
Howdy - When the hydropneumatic levelling device died on my W108 it allowed the rear of the car to ride very low. Wy too low. I found a Spring Assy. that could be used in lieu of the compensator since back then (30 years ago) they were almost $500. The Spring was less than $100 and II

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Peter Frederick
It's a pump system with hydraulic damping using air compressed by the movement of the piston shaft back and forth and an internal valving system to keep the resting position the same. Works great when new, but I suspect they are all long dead by now. Either the seals fail and it won't hold p

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Joe Knight
Been a while now but Dan Penoff used to have a '62 300SE, a fintail with hydropneumatics. As I recall, when I first saw it the car had been sitting for quite a while and the suspension had leaked down. It pumped right up on starting though and held pretty well at shutoff. Don't know if he ever ad

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Jim Cathey
> Been a while now but Dan Penoff used to have a '62 300SE, a fintail > with hydropneumatics. That's different. The leveling device was, IIRC, always called a 'compensator'. Though it was _a_ hydropneumatic levelling device, it was not _the_ hld. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Gary Hurst
the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights. On Dec 18, 2007 7:53 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy - >When the hydropneumatic levelling device died on my W108 it allowed the > rear of the car to ride very low. Wy too low. I found a Spring Assy.

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
I couldn't disagree more. I replaced the rear spring kit with an OEM used compensator and this eliminated a lot of harshness in how the car takes bumpy roads, esp. in the rear. On Dec 18, 2007 7:53 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy - >When the hydropneumatic levelling device died

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
Perhaps. I noticed the differnece immediately in my 280SE 3.5. I can't recall whether my W108 280SE sedan had the spring or the compensator. On Dec 18, 2007 10:43 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights. > > On Dec 18

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
He is subscribed here also, I do believe. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader - Original Message - From: "Joe Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device > Been a while now but

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
18, 2007 9:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights. On Dec 18, 2007 7:53 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy - >When the hydropneumatic levell

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread LarryT
rs.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device > It's a pump system with hydraulic d

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
> I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic > Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a > 68 > 280S, did not use a pump to keep it pressurized - it was more like a > huge > shock absorber (about8" dismeter x 12" long) that was mounted above

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
They were never cheap but occasionally someone is selling a good used one on ebay. On Dec 19, 2007 10:32 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic > > Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a >

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread LarryT
carbs . - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device >> I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydr

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Gary Hurst
t; www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:44 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levell

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: > > How was it powered? Mine didn't have any electric connections? I'm guessing suspension movement pumps it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMA

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
> How was it powered? Mine didn't have any electric connections? As it bounces up and down it moves the pump piston. Like I said, elegant. The only way the newer system was superior was that it would pump up just sitting there, the older one had to be driven. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Tony Wirtel
Wasn't the OEM (someone like BOGE) pressured to stop selling them so MB could mark them up more? This far out there can't possibly be any IP issues but then again, it would be a small market in any case. A former '67 230s (110 or 111) had a bad one. Tony Wirtel _

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
ent: 12/19/07 09:29 AM To: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I think we;re talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked abou

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device / compensator

2007-12-18 Thread David Bruckmann
e disassembling? D. >-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:53:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00) >From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device > >It's a pump system with hydraulic damping us