RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread poke
> I'm pretty sure Intel already has test chips running at least that fast, > probably faster. Speeds like that only become mainstream when it's > affordable to mass produce such chips (higher yields) and people are willing > to pay more. I think they'd prefer to milk as much out of us as they c

RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread George Woltman
Hi all, At 02:33 PM 6/6/99 -0500, Amy and Shane Sanford wrote: >My understanding of the purpose of rewards like the EFF is posting is to >foster new and innovative ways to solve problems that almost seem >impossible at the time. Absolutely. Otherwise, why offer a prize for a billion digit prime

Re: Mersenne: Prime95 on linux, a tech question

1999-06-06 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sun, 06 Jun 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wouldn't recommend the "> /dev/null" command. If you start it remotely, > the stdout and stderr usually (but not always) go to e-mail. This way you > can still see the output and not lose any critical messages... I pipe the output to a program tha

RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread Aaron Blosser
> I have heard some insider news that Intel *could* hit the 1 GigaHertz mark > by years end if they had a reason too (if AMD jumped out with a unexpected > surprise). Once we start hitting the sweet spot in die size I am > under the > impression that they will start exploring the multiple process

Re: [Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]

1999-06-06 Thread Gustav Schaffter
Definitively. But complaining doesn't really do much without a proof. It's easier to prove a hack (in the form of illegal entry) or spam mail than proving a troll, because a troll is defined by those being trolled (us) whereas a hack or a spam is found in different log files. Still, if nobody

RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread Jud McCranie
At 11:30 AM 6/6/99 -0600, Aaron Blosser wrote: >I suppose it depends on whether Moore's Law can continue to hold true.  I'm >not so sure that we can keep doubling speeds of processors every 18 months >as predicted... That's often stated, but it hasn't been holding true.  We are a factor of abou

RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread Amy and Shane Sanford
>I hope so too (heck, I hope I just live a long life...seeing a giga-digit >prime would be a bonus). > >I suppose it depends on whether Moore's Law can continue to hold true. I'm >not so sure that we can keep doubling speeds of processors every 18 months >as predicted...it's already taken them qu

Re: Mersenne: Prime95 on linux, a tech question

1999-06-06 Thread poke
I wouldn't recommend the "> /dev/null" command. If you start it remotely, the stdout and stderr usually (but not always) go to e-mail. This way you can still see the output and not lose any critical messages... -Chuck On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Philip Heede wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:03:25 +0200,

Mersenne: SETI again

1999-06-06 Thread Spike Jones
I suspected that existence of SETI@Home would somehow benefit GIMPS in the long run, and now I see how it might happen: SETI@Home is a dog compared to GIMPS. It doesnt get outta your way when you want your computer's undivided attention, and now it appears they have been handing out the same assi

Re: [[Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]]

1999-06-06 Thread Paul Derbyshire
Stephen Whitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He claimed to be a programmer, but then over and over he claimed that > bugs should *always* be caught in testing, prior to release. That > proves he's lying, because no programmer can believe that happens in > the real world. A complete set of test-c

Re: Mersenne: Prime95 on linux, a tech question

1999-06-06 Thread poke
First of all put the following at the bottom of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file: /Your/path/to/mprime/mprime & To start it from the command line do this: nohup /Your/path/to/mprime/mprime & -Chuck On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm trying to run mprime on a (test)webserver (lin

RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread Aaron Blosser
>>As someone else said, in the time it takes to find a giga-digit prime, why >>not throw a couple hundred bucks into a money market account or some other >>interest bearing fund...in the time it'd take to find a prime that big, >>you'd have already received that much in interest. :-) >Yes. I hop

RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread Jud McCranie
At 10:08 AM 6/6/99 -0600, Aaron Blosser wrote: >As someone else said, in the time it takes to find a giga-digit prime, why >not throw a couple hundred bucks into a money market account or some other >interest bearing fund...in the time it'd take to find a prime that big, >you'd have already recei

RE: Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread Aaron Blosser
> I just noticed that the EFF is now offering $100,000 prize for the first > 10,000,000 digit prime. I assume that this means that they consider the > 1,000,000 digit prize essentially considered to have been claimed? > > ++ > | Jud McCranie | > ++ The EFF had a

Re: [Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]

1999-06-06 Thread Peter Doherty
I second that. At 16:33 06/06/1999 +0100, you wrote: >NO MORE. The end.. > > >Chris Jefferson, Girton College, Cambridge, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n>2. >However, it

RE: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]

1999-06-06 Thread Rick Pali
From: Gustav Schaffter > The guy is trolling. We are all going into his troll. (This > is proven by the fact that he just *wont* stop.) Amen to that. No one can possibly thing that *everything* works from their point of view and everyone else's view is wrong or unimportant. I would think that an

Re: [Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]

1999-06-06 Thread Chris Jefferson
NO MORE. The end.. Chris Jefferson, Girton College, Cambridge, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n>2. However, it won't fit into my signature file

Mersenne: EFF and 10,000,000 digits

1999-06-06 Thread Jud McCranie
I just noticed that the EFF is now offering $100,000 prize for the first 10,000,000 digit prime. I assume that this means that they consider the 1,000,000 digit prize essentially considered to have been claimed? ++ | Jud McCranie | ++ __

[Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]

1999-06-06 Thread Stephen Whitis
At 03:53 PM 6/6/99 +0200, you wrote: >To everyone reading (and answering) this subject: > >The guy is trolling. We are all going into his troll. (This is proven by the >fact that he just *wont* stop.) I agree, he's trolling. He claimed to be a programmer, but then over and over he claimed that

[Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]

1999-06-06 Thread Gustav Schaffter
To everyone reading (and answering) this subject: The guy is trolling. We are all going into his troll. (This is proven by the fact that he just *wont* stop.) Trolling is a technique used on the News lists since long time. Sometimes with disastrous result for the list. It's been quite rare on

Mersenne: Evil Weasels

1999-06-06 Thread STL137
Oh, evil weasels are present everywhere. <> Cannot be corrected. The error is present in the first iteration. And the bug DID strike your run. <> GEORGE WOLTMAN. You should *at least* know the guy's name! He has provided you with absolutely free software, constant updates, and even took care o

Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18

1999-06-06 Thread Will Edgington
> Here are my ideas on bugs: Bugs happen! They're a fact of life, > omnipresent in all software. Showstopper bugs should not slip through testing and into release software. Correct: _should_ not. That does not mean _will_ not. Mistakes happen, at least as often as accidents. If t