Michael,
I agree wholeheartedly with Rob. When industry and science conclude that they
can control these conditions, we will all be wearing aluminum foil global
warming protection hats that are guaranteed to save us, our children and the
planet.
Our lives are regulated to the point of
Mike,
You can't make it political. If our civilizations are responsible, we'll just
have to go, or at least take a major hit. There's no controlling the situation.
Bill
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dear list members,
I finally updated the RSPOD CALENDAR:
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/RSPOD_2007.html
Sorry for the delay!
Sincerely,
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Hi, Rob, Michael, List
Here we go again!
Global Warming - Scientifically Proven or A Farce?
Bong, bong, bong! I'm sorry, the Correct Answer is...
Farce!
the vast majority of scientists as expressed in the United
Nations
Wrong! Cap'n Blood is referring here to the IPCC -- the
Hello All,
It doesn't matter why the Earth is warming. The fact of the matter is
that people are dying of starvation thanks to the warming (yes, Rob,
it's happening - recheck your data because it's clearly completely
wrong, as far as global trends are concerned), and scientific fact
tells us
Well said, Sterling!
From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,Rob McCafferty
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or
An excellent, factual analysis, Sterling.
- Original Message -
From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob McCafferty
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 10,
Thank you, Sterling, for cutting through the crap with your usual sharp
analysis. As to buying an ostrich ranch, as M. Blood suggests, the birds
would increase the output of green house gasses - CO2 from the north end,
methane from the south.
Paul Swartz
Hi, Rob, Michael, List
Here we
Greetings Sterling and listees,
Well said Sterling!
Work will make you free (1984)
The time for debate is over, they say. It's irresponsible
to argue about the science when confronted by disaster. Just go along...
Accept it.
The media have now turned the population at large to Majority
Hello all,
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Hi, meteorite-lovers –
Too much heat and not enough fact on global warming!
Your politics are your own, but I want to correct a
few fact issues in Harlan Trammel’s email. Not to dump on
Harlan – at least he went beyond name-calling and based
his letter on data as he understands
Sterling suggest that the earth is cooling?
Hm, lets see, hotter temps every year, glaciers in
Europe almost gone, Antarctic/Polar ice melting off (I
for a fact, my mother was there for 6 months two years
ago working at McMurdo station in Antarctica).
Yup, in today's world, that certainly
I was not making it political, I was answering a
political statement by Harlan that said that only
left-wing liberals believe in Global Warming. Somehow
I doubt that every scientist in the world is not a
left-wing liberal. So I answered a political
statement with another nasty one, to make sure to
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:45:45 -0500, you wrote:
second with average air temperatures, and the third (from my wife)
showing that gardening planting zones have moved north because of
higher temperatures.
1a.
In todays chicago tribune,there is a article about
global warming.They show 2 pics of a mountain in
washington state.The first pic was taken in 1960 with
alot of snow on it,and the other was taken last
year,same place and angle.NO SNOW AT ALL!!So I say
there is alot of WARMING going on,not
Ya know, with all this glacier ice melting there's bound to be a few
meteorite specimens to be found. Of course Manhattan and most of Florida
will be under water, but there's bound to be a few trade offs.
George
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Yes. Let's talk about Gao!
Or how the earth is only 6000 yeas old.
Howard Steffic
From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] the earth cooling??
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:51:34 -0700 (PDT)
In todays chicago tribune,there is a
Hi Sterling, list -
Bessey's arrowheads are likely far older than
13,000-9,000 years old (11,000 BCE - 7,000 BCE). The
Sahara begins to dry up at the start of the Holocene
by 8,350 BCE at the latest. (Atlantic impact.) The
impact that produced the Alaskan and Siberian mucks,
and altered the
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
It is too bad these mucks are not absolutely dated
yet. But 11,000 BCE would be a late date for Bessey's
arrowheads (points) - most are likely far older.
Why not just go ask some Omanis how old they are? After all, according to you
modern
All of this warming stuff may seem unrelated to meteoriticsbut there is
some connection. I find it more than a bit distressing that certain members
of the scientific community have insisted that other scientists and the
public throw away their skepticism on this issue of critical scientific
The web site for an inconvenient truth states that Mr. al-Gore thinks
melting ice could raise global sea levels by 20 feet.
I have $10,000 that says by June 10, 2017, global sea levels will not have
risen by 4 feet or more relative to 2007. Email me off list if you'd like
any part of this bet.
Hi,
Just getting ready for the Ensisheim trip...last minute bookings etc.
Hoping to meet some more list members there as in Tucson.
Bringing my nephew this time..he is the starsite manager in Astrophysics
at Oxford University...so we are both looking forward to seeing some
special rocks and
Eric, I have been to rain forests in Africa, Panama,
Costa Rica, Brazil, Thailand, Burma, Laos, and
Colombia. I saw no Bio-diesel or Ethanol plants, I did
see tropical hardwood being cut down from National
parks, used in furniture and building. I also saw
plenty of worthless farmland being created
Paul, ok, lest say you are the proud winner of that
bet! Bush got his way, America refused to do it's part
and the oceans only raise 4 feet in the next 10 years.
I guess you had better go to Florida/New York
City/Boston, most of the Gulf Coast, and well, most of
the Island nations in the Pacific.
STERLING;
Excellent oratory,puts a real spin face to the beast.Food for thought
about the mechanics of political motives.I guess its just another chapter in
the
NEW WORLD ORDER thanks for the enlightening post.
Herman Archer IMCA 2770.
**
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:25:59 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
Unfortunately that is the mentality of a huge part of
our nation today, all about me, my money, and today,
screw tomorrow, and I gues screw our children, and
grandchildren, they can learn to live in the crappy
world we created today to get ours
on 6/10/07 9:53 AM, Marc Fries at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If your only source is An Inconvenient Truth, then I'm not
surprised to see you go straight to the anyone who doesn't think as
I do is an idiot approach.
--
No, Marc,
As clearly outlined below, in my original post I
So, there we go.
Whatever you think, there will be someone who disagrees, and the scientific
evidence can be interpreted in multiple ways.
Therefore, there is no scientific consensus.
And we are, as a planet, going to spend billions on solving the problem.
However, another issue - one over
Hi Sterling,
First of all, I would like to thank you for being
a gentleman in presenting your perspective in a
relatively rational and respectful manor.
Make no mistake, I certainly see the situation differently
and feel a bit like I did when hearing Tom Cruise declare
mental
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I want a coral reef off newfoundland in the next
couple decades. Where I can go reef diving and run
spear fishing charters. Now in an effort to help that
lets everybody take it upon themselves to once a year
go to the nearest steel plant or oil refinery and
destroy a freezer with a sledge hammer -
Well said Deanalthough everybody leaping on a plane to Ensisheim
might well help warm things up.
See you in Ensishem hopefully.
Graham Ensor
dean bessey wrote:
I want a coral reef off newfoundland in the next
couple decades. Where I can go reef diving and run
spear fishing charters. Now
Dean,
I will see you in Ensisheim in just a few days! Yay,
packing now. Lot's to get done in the meantime. Anyone
who wants me to bring something to the show for you to
buy, NOW is the time to tell me. I am bringing very
little so please, email your requests right now.
Michael Farmer
I agree with Michael Farmer completely.
In Vancouver, Canada, over the last couple years, we have started getting
the pinapple express in winter/spring. These are tropical storms with high
winds. The winds are so high that many of the trees in Stanley Park were
blown down. Not just old growth
Hello List,
I have to sell my collection of french meteorites for
personal reasons.
I will be bringing it to the Ensisheim show so if you
are interested, I can send you the list and prices
off-list and payment process ; you can also meet me at
the show around a beer ;-)
I cannot send right now
Yes the excitment is all there now. I am leaving in a
few hours. From New Zealand takes a day and a half to
get anywhere. Boy this place is really in the middle
of nowhere.
My parents are coming to and the 4 of us have 3 weeks
of nice vacationing planned outside the two shows in
germany and spain
Michael,
It's a deal. If I have to hitch a ride in Kevin Cosner's
WaterWorld boat to get to Tuscon, boy, will my face
be red!
Sterling
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From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL
Mr. Farmer and Mr. Garrison:
The intent of the bet I proposed was not to make money. It was to
challange the idiocy of the al-Gore crowd. So far, I have zero takers on a
proposition that requires a mere 1/5 of the accepted figure.
Mr. Farmer:
The rain forest lungs have a lot of help from
Dean,
You are undoubtedly either extremely brave, devoted or foolhardy...or
maybe a bit of all there. Anyone who has ever traveled by air with a
baby can tell you it is an arduous task even if it's only for three
or four hours. Two 14 hour flights with a baby on your lap is not my
idea of a
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:14:21 -0700, you wrote:
Mr. Farmer and Mr. Garrison:
The intent of the bet I proposed was not to make money. It was to
challange the idiocy of the al-Gore crowd. So far, I have zero takers on a
proposition that requires a mere 1/5 of the accepted figure.
Oh, I wasn't
on 6/10/07 5:00 PM, Sterling K. Webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael,
It's a deal. If I have to hitch a ride in Kevin Cosner's
WaterWorld boat to get to Tuscon, boy, will my face
be red!
Sterling
---
Hi Sterling,
Just don't drink too much on the
WaterWorld boat!
So true Mike Farmer. That is the problem with our age. We want
everything never taking into consideration what we leave those that
follow us after we are dead and gone.
They will curse us or thank us for what we do now.
But to do nothing about global warming now, which is a scientifically
Does anyone else get that deja vous feeling?
It wasn't long ago when the planet was in panic from the experts
prediction about the approaching doom of Y2K - toasters refusing to toast,
and planes falling from the sky...
A lot of money was made by some back then!
Cheers,
Pete
From:
on 6/10/07 5:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The rain forest lungs have a lot of help from phytoplankton, which
account for about 2/3 of all photosynthesis on the planet.
Phytoplankton has has a little trouble with desalination of the oceans
as the Polar ice cap and
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:03:19 -0400, you wrote:
Does anyone else get that deja vous feeling?
It wasn't long ago when the planet was in panic from the experts
prediction about the approaching doom of Y2K - toasters refusing to toast,
and planes falling from the sky...
A lot of money was made
Hello List,
I have to sell my collection of french meteorites for
personal reasons.
I will be bringing it to the Ensisheim show so if you
are interested, I can send you the list (PDF format)
and prices off-list ; you can also meet me at
the show around a beer ;-) and look at all those cool
Hi, Allan, List
Don't blame Harlan. It's my email you're talking about,
not his. Let me respond.
For Listees, internet graphs are not clean primary data.
Proxy records are approximations made by combining
various data sets of uncertain correlation. Then, the proxy
records are adjusted to
Steve, not likely in our lifetimes, the money that
could have been spent going back to the moon, building
a permant base, then going to Mars, all of it could
have been done with the money we have pissed away in
Iraq. But hey, look at it this way, Haliburton moved
to Dubai to be closer to the
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070610/sc_nm/deforestation_dc
WOW, this article is on YAHOO front page right now.
It shows the level of destruction for profit, legal
and illegal. If you ever want to see the jungle, now
is the time.
Michael Farmer
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