Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread MEM
I've my own collection of ideas as to how chondrules developed but will save them for later. As to CAIs and their presence in carbonaceous meteorites. A list member and I had this discussion some time ago and the answer may lie in a process in the "T-Tauri" stage of stellar evolution. When th

Re: [meteorite-list] COINCIDENCE?

2009-10-01 Thread MEM
Tisk tisk every conspiracy follower knows this was the same fireball only the first appearance was timewarped forward by the HAARP super weapon in preparation for its Dec 21st 2012 retaliation for the 2012 elections or was it the London Olympics? I forget now but I'll recheck the calendar when

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Dark Matter
Hi All, I think Jeff's answer was definitive in a boomerang way. But wait there's more: http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~grossman/MSD05.pdf I studied this and other articles looking for the same answers as those in the initial post. I'm still looking. The best I can do in my talks is to quote Don

[meteorite-list] 73rd Annual Meeting of the Meteoritical Society

2009-10-01 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.metsoc2010.org/ 73rd Annual Meeting of the Meteoritical Society July 26-30, 2010 New York, New York You are cordially invited to attend the 73rd Annual Meeting of the Meteoritical Society to be held July 26-30, 2010, in the City of New York, New Y

[meteorite-list] Wikipedia, CAI's and Chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - A wonderful project for those so inclined. A good approach may be to set out the varying theories. E.P. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailm

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Carl, Francesco, Jeff, List, Wrong, Carl. A good solid "We don't know crap about this yet; it's all up in the air" is the best kind of definitive answer. There are probably a half-dozen scenarios for how this data came about and there's few reasons to choose any one over the others. I was g

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Jeff Grossman
I didn't say "we don't know cr*p"... I said there was not a definitive answer. We know a lot about the timing, materials, and physical conditions needed to make chondrules and CAIs, and people have used these to make models for their formation. But many of these constraints are under scruti

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Sterling K. Webb
All I mean bu "we don't know, er, stuff..." was that there is no definitive answer to the puzzle. Proof of double supernovae, T Tauri firestorms, system-wide lightning bolts, or demons that like torment human geophysicists is still unavailable. Sterling K. Webb ---

[meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello All, See also Hutchison for a comprehensive overview of "Theories of chondrule origins" (Planetary theories vs. Nebular theories) and "Possible CAI-forming mechanisms"! HUTCHISON R. (2004) Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and Isotopic Synthesis (Cambridge Planetary Science Series, pp. 2

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Alexander Seidel
From my layman´s perspective and point of view: isn´t it interesting to note that there is still **so much** controversy over chondrule formation, those little round objects which are so evident and very clearly visible in many of the meteorites in our collections, while at the very same time al

[meteorite-list] New MESSENGER Mercury Images

2009-10-01 Thread Ron Baalke
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu MESSENGER Mission News October 1, 2009 NEW MESSENGER MERCURY IMAGES A Bright Spot in the Latest Imaging Humans have now had three views of the bright area shown near the top center of this image

[meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Alexander Seidel
Sorry, I should have added: the observable facts don´t seem to be the problem here, but all the *CONSTRAINTS* on them involved, right Jeff? Alex Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:57:35 +0200 Von: "Alexander Seidel" An: Jeff Grossman , meteorite-list@meteoritecentr

[meteorite-list] It's Raining Rocks!

2009-10-01 Thread Sterling K. Webb
No, not meteorites like Holbrook. And not on Earth. On another planet altogether. The only flaw in their reasoning (the computer model) is the assumption of locked rotation with the star. As a body spirals in toward a much more massive body, it passes into the period of 3:2 resonant locked rotat

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Alan Rubin
The origin of chondrules is one of the outstanding problems facing meteorite researchers. There is significant disagreement even among colleagues who routinely work together on this problem. But be aware, nearly everything I say below will be disputed by some folks in the field, each h

[meteorite-list] Magazine article (in French)

2009-10-01 Thread Darren Garrison
Found this. I played with the possibility of OCRing the text, plugging that back in Google translations, and putting that back in the document, but the OCRing wasn't turning out nearly clean enough to be worth the trouble. So those of you that can read it can read it, the rest can look at the pur

[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites - Free Eucrite with any purchase.

2009-10-01 Thread Greg Catterton
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Re: [meteorite-list] CAI and chondrules

2009-10-01 Thread Alexander Seidel
Thank you, professional meteoriticists Alan and Jeff, for actively taking part in this interesting discussion. With these things, as so often in the natural sciences [..see e. g. all the work in particle physics, or the efforts for a grand unification with gravity], one may overall be inclined

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 2, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Michael Johnson
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 2, 2009

2009-10-01 Thread Jerry Flaherty
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