Re: [meteorite-list] AD - New Rare EL3 Paleo-Meteorite - NWA 2828

Hi all - Metal detectors come to NWA? good hunting, Ed --- PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Greg Do You know how they was able to find this meteorite ? They maybe use any special trained Camels to search for meteorites ? Becouse this meteorite uncut is rather difficult to

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites from the bottom of the ocean Part 1 of 2

Hi Bernd, list - Thanks for this, Bernd. Anyone have any more information at hand on these? Eltanin, MES About 25 small basaltic breccia fragments, totalling 100mg in weight, were recovered from two cores, E13-3 and E13-4, from the SE. Pacific Ocean. The fragments are associated with

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of the new Indian iron

Hi Darren - I wondered why it looked so shiny myself. And the shape didn't look right, either. Looks more like a cleaned and polished Campo than a fresh fall. But the article did claim it was a photo of the new fall. Maybe they beat the fusion crust off of it with their sticks? :-)

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites from the bottom of the ocean - Part 2 of 2

Thanks David, Anybody here have a larger image of this KT fossil meteorite? good hunting, Ed Man and Impact in the Americas PS - Saw the message where Jack Schmitt was confused with someone else, and glad someone made the correction. --- David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a photo to

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites on the moon

Hi Sterling, Rob, List - There is no combined model of asteroid and comet flux which accounts for the observed craters on all bodies in our solar system. The mechanics of the Earth-Moon system have never really been worked out. We really don't know if the Moon gets hit more often than the

Re: [meteorite-list] The importance of lunar meteorites

are so important. Another way of examining the problem is by using the historical record, but the difficulty is that this only samples a small period of time (ca. 10,000 years, or 6,000,000 years when human genetic information is considered). E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas check

[meteorite-list] OT Fwd: Amazon.com replies

Hi all - I just want to share this one with you: --- Amazon.com Advantage Member Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 31 Aug 2006 03:17:02 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Amazon.com Advantage Member Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Your Amazon.com Inquiry Greetings Grondine,

Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary MOSS meteorite classification

Hi all - A little blue sky here - I hope this makes sense - Because of the difference in fragmentation of asteroids and comets, any regular annual pattern of C falls would argue for a cometary source. But even a comet debris stream in an ellipse will have bulges in it (years) when C meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Preliminary MOSS meteorite classification

Hi all - Dammit! The only way that you would have an annual fall would be if a debris stream intersected the Earth at the same time each year. This is highly unlikely. What these people (I can't do it myself any longer) need to be looking for is regular intervals, and multiples of those

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Nears End ofAerobraking

Hi Doug, Ron, list - Sadly, one must also remember that this type of technology is also useful for warhead re-entry. If we instead use it for something constuctive and beneficial, such as improving our understanding of the Earth's weather, then that's to the good. I suppose that what I'm trying

Re: [meteorite-list] How does regolith get stoned?

Hi Darren - Lunars = the Moon = molten rock + asteroid and comet impacts + 1/6 Earth's gravity for billions of years all the best, Ed --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering how lunar/asteroidal regolith becomes reprocessed into solid brecciated stones. Is it reburied

Re: [meteorite-list] How does regolith get stoned?

Hi Darren - I'll try making it simpler for you then. EP --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:28:17 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Hi Darren - Lunars = the Moon = molten rock + asteroid and comet impacts + 1/6 Earth's gravity for billions of years I was

Re: [meteorite-list] Wandering Gas Giants and Lunar Bombardment

Hi all - This is where meteorites comes in. Either there was a large parent body, which was destroyed and led to the gas giand shift, the LPBE and asteroids, or there was an orbital stablization in gas giants which led to the LPBE, and asteroids as the parent bodies. Gravitational

Re: [meteorite-list] THE IAU PLANET DEFINITION -- IT'S MULTIPLE CHOICE!

Hi, Pretty good, but - dwarf planets - a repeat of the 1800's, when Ceres and Pallas became minor planets - now we'll have dwarves plutonians intead of plutos? - Looks to me like a wire - I wonder who got plutonian into the Merriam Webster dictionary? As events proceed, we'll probably just

[meteorite-list] Price drop for lunars?

Hi all - http://www.energia.ru/english/energia/news/news-2006/public_07-01.html Energia would like to fly a Moon landing in 2014 - kind of like Thiokol. While you add up the launch costs and module costs at current market, and come up with a rough estimate of total cost per landing, the

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]

Hi all - While one might think that the difference in entry spectra is simply a reflection of the neural function of the eye, based on my observational experience, I have to disagree. Both entries were bright, and there was a distinct difference in spectra. I think this could go the way of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Size Counts concerning Pluto?

Hi Dirk, all - The problem is that there are a whole lot more plutos which are being discovered. A whole whole lot more. I wonder what the public's reaction was when Ceres was demoted back in the 1800's? It would make a good side bar for someone. good hunting, Ed --- drtanuki [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets

Hi all - plutonians? I think not - pluton has a well defined geological (planetary) usage. plutos, with Pluto being the first of the class, and no new word to remember, just add s and make the P a p - easy enough, and clyde'ss friends can't be too upset with it - Hopefully this will all be

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this lunar crater?

Hi all - As Bess taught Harry to say, Horse Manure. Schultz has replied to Melosh several times, and will do so again. Schultz et al have conducted several more field expeditions to Rio Cuarto, with further analysis of samples. The Maya were quite specific about what hit - GI, GII, GIII, and

[meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]

Hi Chris, list I have seen two entrie. I believe I posted the first one to the list, and it was green - at the time I was in Virgina, and the entry was so green I first thought that it either had to be a)an accidental launch warhead entry (which I stopped thinking when nothing exploded), or b)

Re: AW: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

for the recovered samples, which turned out to be terrestrial. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von E.P. Grondine Gesendet: Montag, 21. August 2006 15:53 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: Re-2: [meteorite

[meteorite-list] Comets as meteorite source: another comet sample

Hi list, There is yet another comet sample: a carbonaceous chondrite was recovered from the KT layer by a core drilled in the Pacific. Berndt should have the details on this one at hand in his database. My own memory is not so good since my stroke, and I have limited energy available. good

[meteorite-list] Re: THE PLANET DEBATE, solar system formation, and meteorites

Hi Sterling, all - This is probably lost on many here, but it appears to me that the question before the meteorite community is Was McSween's formation model right?. Or was the formation of the asteroids, the source for many meteorites, related to the LPBE? As many ask, Did the planets shift

Re: [meteorite-list] Comets as meteorite source: another comet sample

On 8/21/06, E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, There is yet another comet sample: a carbonaceous chondrite was recovered from the KT layer by a core drilled in the Pacific. Berndt should have the details on this one at hand in his database. My own memory

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: The IAU Draft Definition of 'Planet' and 'Plutons'

Hi Ron, List - I suppose we could always call them clydes. good hunting, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IAU draft Resolution also defines a new category of planet for official use: pluton. Plutons are distinguished from classical planets in that they reside in orbits

[meteorite-list] Carbonaceous Chondrites and their sources

Hi List - Make that Harlow Shapley. I don't know whether Dr. Bryson's memory was good, and I don't know about the sutdies he mentioned in the following note, as I was unable to locate them. But if Shapley was working in this direction, then it would explain his disgust with Velikovsky. It may

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet shower

Hi Larry, list - Ahem. Hourse manure, as Bess Truman taught Harry to say. Under the strains of traversing the plane of our solar system, a comet can fragment into fragemnts, as they are technically known, or cometissimals, to put it more properly. Comet Schwassmann Wachmann 3 did this quite

Re: [meteorite-list] Arizona's Meteor Crater: A Big Bang For Your Buck

Hi Ron, list - Anybody got any idea when they will conduct meteorite hunting parties on the site, if ever? good hunting, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-sidetrip20aug20,1,2024700.story Arizona's Meteor Crater: A big bang for your buck By

Re: [meteorite-list] Task force to monitor asteroid threats

Hi all - It is truly depressing to see Morrison obtaining the chair of the new task force. While Morrison is to be applauded for his early work taking on Velikovsky, and for his early work with Shoemaker, since then he has not done very well. It is not his backing of Muller, which resulted in

Re: [meteorite-list] Planets Galore

Hi Mike, list - So let's look at this as process - Whatever this current committee does, as very many more new KBOs and Oort cloud objects are discovered which fit their new definition for planet, and as memory of Clyde's discovery fades, along with the passing of many of his colleagues,

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

Hi all - Sterling, I want to arise in defense of Rob Roy Britt. --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second: you'll notice that much of the coverage of the planet definition controversy is coming out of Space.com. In searching up articles, I have become aware that Space.com

[meteorite-list] Micromounts; craters; SL9 impact movie

Hi all - I few thoughts in the night. On micromounts, I seem to rememeber that several years ago someone had assembled a box set, with a wide assortment of meteorites (about $400 at the time)... I also remembered that Nininger produced a book which had a canyon diablo in a plastic bubble... I

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto's Fate to be Decided by 'Scientific andSimp

-sized, but I could be wrong. If there were an Eath at 60 or 70 AU, I am not sure it would have a lot of influence on Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto. Larry Quoting E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Larry, all - Yeah, there could be massive bodies out there, but there aren't

Re: [meteorite-list] 'Plutons' Push Planet Total Up To 12

Hi all - Everybody loved Clyde, so they don't want to take the honor of discovering a planet away from him. But for the future, making him the discoverer of the first KBO would not be that much of a demotion, and might be a raise - that is the FIRST KBO. Minor Planets are those located between

Re: [meteorite-list] US Regulations Governing Antarctic Meteorites

Hi Sterling, all - an interesting evening - Consider using the resources of the antartic to back a UN currency, which could be spent by the UN for disaster relief or development. That's one way to keep the bullets from flying. We'll probably have to do the same thing with the far-sea-floor

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto's Fate to be Decided by 'Scientific andSimple' Planet Definition

Hi all - Ed Weiler once asked me if I expected him to find everything in the Oort Cloud. At the timer, I told him no, that would not be necessary, I just expected him to find what was in-bound as early as possible. Now I've changed my mind, and I have a question for you. What kind of

Re: [meteorite-list] conflicting viewpoints

Hi all - Given the market prices, I wonder why the academic institutions and academic departments in Libya, Algeria, Morocco, etc. have not turned to meteorite hunting as a source of funds. Possibly the answer lies in the skills required for searching - the eyesight, the concentration, the

Re: [meteorite-list] New Impact Crater

Hi Al, list - From his proclamation of his feature as cometary, one would think that something is awry - kind of like the self proclaimed lunar and martian meteorites. But then one never knows. Anybody going to tell this guy about shattercones? Or the basic lithography of impact craters, for

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto's Fate to be Decided by 'Scientific andSimp

Hi Ron - When do we get back the tens of millions of dollars spent looking for Nemesis? The NEO search teams could really use it. There's those 64 fragments of SW3 coming back around in 2022. Additionally there's a pack of nuts all gearing up to holler about 2012, very close to SW3's 2011

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto's Fate to be Decided by 'Scientific andSimp

Hi all - Past my bedtime, and I feel I'm getting to be a bore, but - one more post Right about the waste of money flying men to Mars to do a couple of robots work. The transportation costs to and from Mars are too high and will always be to do any development. On the other hand, we need to

Re: [meteorite-list] conflicting viewpoints

Hi all - How are these NWA pieces getting provisional numbers without positive ids as meteorites and thus samples being obtained for scientific purposes? Who is allowing them to be represented as meteorites without proper id as such? Where is the dealers association? What happened while I

Re: [meteorite-list] Microscopic Meteorite Gallery Web Site

Hi Paul, all - Thanks for the notes. Phenomenal images - they just may clear up a number of formation questions. I am looking forward to hearing everyone's comments over the upcoming months. good hunting, Ed --- Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Hello

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Discover Large Impact Crater in Eastern Jordan

Hi all - While the date is open yet, this did not show up in the new cosmic dust ice core studies either. I suppose it is time to take a new look at the Ugarit Baal materials. good hunting, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Cosmic Dtust in Terrestrial Ice MORE

Hi Sterling, Larry, all - Having just tried to establish the data on basic long term climate trends in North America as part of Man and Impact in the Americas, I hope you'll allow me to briefly opine on both the Earth-Sun system and impact. The best explanation of our sun's variability that I

Re: [meteorite-list] Cosmic Dust in Ice Cores Sheds Light on Earth's Past Climate

Hi Ron, all, Once again, what these team measured was 3He and cosmic dust - not comet dust. It's best to announce research results like this in August when Dr. Peiser is on vacation. That prevents detailed technical comment by the world's best qualified individuals. The Brown Ammendment still

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Comet: Talking Points, #1

- - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Comet: Talking Points, #1 Hi Marco, all - The lack of results

[meteorite-list] Experiment: in fire starting with Canyon Diablo

Hi all - First off, I want to thank Piper Hollier for trading the Canyon Diablo for a copy of my book. I haven't heard from him yet, though I immediatly sent the copy of my book to him by the fastest US postal international mail service. In particular all enjoyed his documentation, and

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Comet: Talking Points, #1

Hi Marco, all - The lack of results from the new Europen Greenland ice cores is disturbing, given the gross physical remains from impacts of fragments of Comet Encke, the contemporary text accounts of climate collapses, and the tree ring evidence. --- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[meteorite-list] MAJOR FLAW in new cosmic dust study

Hi all - Bingo! During its journey through interplanetary space, the cosmic dust is charged with helium atoms by the solar wind. At this point they are highly enriched with the rare helium isotope 3He, explains Dr Hubertus Fischer, head of the research program Unless the dust particles are

Re: [meteorite-list] Crash Landing on the Moon (LCROSS)

Hi all - Not a bad idea; kind of looks like Chang'e 1: http://www.friends-partners.org/pipermail/fpspace/2006-May/019800.html I hope the Chinese outline their lunar observatory plans at the ILEWG meeting in Beijing July 27-29. I hope they'll broadly describe some type of CAPS variant. good

Re: [meteorite-list] SMART-1 Image: Lomonosov - A Large Crater Filled By Lava

Hi - While the Moon lacks an atmosphere, which is required for an airblast, isn't it more likely that what we're seeing here is impact glass rather than lava? I can't see how lava would pool at such a shallow depth, given that the Moon's core hsa been cooled for some billions of years now. I

[meteorite-list] Bessey specks for young people

Hi all - I don't know why I'm bringing this up now (with some 300 messages yet to go through from the last several weeks), but the thought is striking me that Bessey Specks make good gifts for young people. Given that, how do you think they should be packaged? What prices? Since I've been away

Re: [meteorite-list] Comet: Talking Points, #1

Hi all - A superb analysis, but... In the case of Rio Cuarto impacts, I have been informed by a tree ring specialist that tree rings show the climatic collapse dead on at 2360 BCE. (It would thus appear that the correlation problem for the Mayan calendar has been solved.) This dust load

Re: [meteorite-list] Re to Darren: Comet hit Britain in mid sixth, , century, AD?

Hi all - I have just returned from visiting with Cherokee, Shawnee, Tuscarora, and Seneca in eastern North America and I am just beginning to catch up with my e-mail. I went through the surviving medieval European records several years ago. What I found was a strike by a piece of Comet Encke

Re: [meteorite-list] iron meteorites and earth origins

Hi all - I'm setting something of a personal record here today - we all get enough messages, and I have to remember that not everything requires my personal comment, but in this case, here goes - IF only NASA would provide us with some decent new crater counts from the moons of Jupiter and

Re: [meteorite-list] Re:Comet hit Britain in mid sixth century, AD?

Hi all - Keys simply threw out the Javanese records, which indicated the eruption occured in the 400's CE. It appears the ensuing climate collapse led to an outbreak of plague in Eastern Africa, which then rapidly spread along Roman trading paths. That seective depopulation accounts for the

Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Re:Comet hit Britain in mid sixth, RE-POSTED

Hi all - I didn't get too far before I found another message which seemed to need some comment. We can argue theory here or we can get data and then try to form theory. Might I suggest my book Man and Impact in the Americas as a good startting point? $34.95 via 1-877-494-0044 Ancient American

Re: [meteorite-list] Re:Comet hit Britain in mid sixth, RE-POSTED

Hi all - Right good p'ing match here - everybody get out your raincoats Yes, Marco, History is Change. But there are also those with a known fetish AGAINST impacts or any other physical event as a source for any historical change. Let us include here one David Morrison, who has wasted

Re: [meteorite-list] 11-Million-Year-Old Impact Crater Found in Uzbekistan

Hi Ron, list - Perhaps this was a comet fragment. The date lines up well with Clube and Napier's observed 26 million year chaotic period for injection. I suppose we'll have to await formal publication to see exactly what hit - all the best - ED --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Even more of that darned Brenham

Hi all - It is possible that the Brenham impact is related to the Five Nations' tradition of the Flying Heads (Whirlwinds), but a problem here is that this tradition is reliably (by wampum bead count) dated to 200-250 CE, while the one radio carbon date given for Brenham is 47 BCE. If you find

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - LUNAR BONANZA - List Member Specials

Dear Greg - How much are you asking for dust specks from the sawing? Sorry - old joke - 8P) - EP --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List Members, We would like to take this opportunity to announce the availability of several different lunar meteorite specimens from

[meteorite-list] Re: Asteroid AND COMET Defense: NASA to Formulate Planetary Protection Plan

Hi Ron - Amazing. It only took an act of Congress to get NASA management off its butt and doing what it should have been doing years ago to ensure the safety of the people of this country. Congratulations. You know how reluctant I am to bring this up here, what with all the divorces and

Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Fireball sighting over Northern Germany

Hi Dieter, list Dieter, was this another SW3 fragment? Perseid? Apollo? Any color to this bolide? Green tinge? What are your current thoughts on the SW3 bolides? Have we had any SW3 fragment recoveries yet? If so, who and what? all the best, EP --- Dieter Heinlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio bolide coordinates, today's solstice, crowded Cancer constellation...

Thanks Doug - Of course I should have known that I would not be lucky enough to have whatever it was fragment over Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I wonder how many radio listeners there are in Philadelphia, Ohio? Serves me right for doing analysis at 2 in the morning. happy hunting - Ed ---

Re: [meteorite-list] re: Loud Blast, Red Streaks in Sky Over Ohio

) but we think the meteorite that landed Wednesday was considerably larger, Røed Ødegaard said, and urged members of the public who saw the object or may have found remnants to contact the Institute of Astrophysics. --- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists work to colonize space

Hi Darren, all - China has its own goal for man in space, and it's the construction of the Comet and Asteroid Protection System (CAPS) on the Moon for the 6 billion people here on spaceship Earth: http://www.gloriad.org/pipermail/fpspace/2006-May/019800.html By having the (unique?) ability

[meteorite-list] small iron for fire making needed

Hi all - By the way, my offer is for as many copies of Man and Impact in the Americas ($34.95) as it takes to make market value for small irons offered in trade. My shipping costs are $6 US and $11 overseas. The Canyon Diablos sound pretty good. all the best, Ed

Re: [meteorite-list] Loud Blast, Red Streaks in Sky Over Ohio

Hi all - I think that the SW3 bolides have had a green tinge to them so far. Motion appears to have been from Cleveland, to Pittsburgh, to Philadelphia, to Dover, Delaware. West to East. Looks like orbital debris, offhand. SW3 frags so far have travelled mainly from South to North. On the

[meteorite-list] Susupending meteorite list for a while

Hi all - Regreatfully, I must suspend meteorite list for a while. Anyone wishing to contact me on anything of importance please contact me via private e-mail. I hope to be able to rejoin this most interesting list soon. ep __ Do you Yahoo!?

[meteorite-list] Re: Asteroid Theory Gains Ground - will somebody please tell them about comets

the cooling mentioned most likely is be the first fragment of this comet hitting - ep --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www2.dailycamera.com/bdc/environment/article/0,1713,BDC_2434_1677499,00.html Asteroid theory gains ground Impact probably did in the dinosaurs, new

Re: [meteorite-list] Dinosaurs Experienced Climate Changes Before K-T Collision

The bones would not have survived the acid rain long enough to be fossilized. Same goes for bones in the process of fossilization. ep --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ron and list The fact is that dinosaur fossils are not found at the k-T boundary. One has to go 9-10 ft at best, below the

Re: [meteorite-list] Utah Salt flats

Hi - I seem to remember seeing the entire flats under water a few years back. If so, and meteorites would have sunk below the surface. I don't have the foggiest clue how deep, maybe someone could work it out... My guess is that nonethelss this may be a good hunting spot, but only with a metal

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Where on Earth Is Mars? Try sherghotty

Hi Steve - I pretty much said what I said - and that did not include any statement that there were never any lava flows on Mars. If I seem a little steamed about this nonsense I am - here these governments are wasting good money sending these Mars specialists down to Naples to look at Etna,

[meteorite-list] Re: Where on Earth Is Mars? Try sherghotty

Hi all - Looks like I can do my part to save the government some money and thus reduce the deficit. Where on Earth is Mars? Nowhere, except in the martian meteorites recovered here. I can with certainty assert that Mt Etna is not like the Martian volcanoes. As far as martian volcanoes goes,

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Color Clans

Hi all - It seems to me that instead of the meteorite classes being tied to one particular asteroid, it is more likely that ultimately the classes of meteorites (and some sub-classes not yet separated out) will be tied to classes of asteroids. In other words, in this particular case the source

[meteorite-list] Re: The Pribram/Neuschwanstein Meteoroid Stream Is Not Dead

I suppose that ultimately this may all go back to whether or not Jupiter occupied its current orbit before the LPBE (Late Period Bombarment Event) - my guess is that it did not. ep --- Herbert Raab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Fox writes: In theory then, a collision-formed stream of

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Did a Comet Swarm Kill the Dinosaurs?

: Did a Comet Swarm Kill the Dinosaurs? E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Hi all - If my memory serves me, (I seem to remember that Pacific Ocean recovery was not a carbonaceous chondrite), that another comet besides this one may have hit an asteroid

Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla and the dead mutt!

The cheap way to do this would be to post and hand out color flyers in Arabic to the locals showing what Nakhla looks like along with a reward and contact information, perhaps using a reputable Egyptian academic or mineral dealer as a contact, perhaps not... it´s cheaper than Mars Sample Return,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chassigny

The place to start the search would be with the correspondence of those at the holding institution. ep --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening Ray, and all, The mystery of what happened to all of the reported Chassigny find is a perennial discussion topic. One that I suspect will go

[meteorite-list] Re: Burning Object Seen Over Kentucky

Hello Rosemary, all - The best explanation for this phenomena which I have heard comes from guitar goddess Cathy Horner - It seems that the signals which broadcast all of those old television shows are finally reaching far away star systems. The result is that the inhabitants of those star

[meteorite-list] Any carbonaceous chondrite falls around August 10?

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[meteorite-list] Re: Australian Meteorites and UNESCO

Does the UNESCO regulation extend to NWA? ep --- ROCKS ON FIRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Everyone, every Australian Meteorite is subject to a permit, if you take or send the meteorite, even for a limited time (display or so), out of this great country of ours. However, for

[meteorite-list] Saw a nice meteorite entry

Hi all - My thanks to Bernd, Tonu, and Pierre for their messages on the Kaali impact event, which I passed on to the Cambridge Conference. Thanks! Early Wednesday morning I saw a nice meteorite entry while driving home, and I hope that some of you will enjoy this short account of it. I had

[meteorite-list] Re:Kaali meteorite - Estonia, 400BC?

Hi all - If anyone has MAPS at hand, I would be most interested in the citations of Tacitus and Pytheas. best wishes - ep --- Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doing some research for a radio slot, and am intrigued by the Kaali meteorite which fell in

[meteorite-list] Re: Mercury Meteorite Puzzle

Hi Ron, all - Most fascinating to read the comments on the formation of olivine, particularly as it relates to parent body size(s). Pressure seems to be the key. It strikes me that there would have been at least 2 sources of pressure - one, gravity; and two, the cooled outer crust pressing

[meteorite-list] Re: Mercury Meteorite Puzzle

Hi all - H - Oxygen isotopes from a large parent body, but minerally apparently different than Mercury? This is returning to that old problem of the size of the parent(s) of different types of meteorites. My thinking is that it may also be related to the LPBE. I any case, the key problem

[meteorite-list] Oblique impacts on Mars and elsewhere (Rio Cuarto)

Hello all - Most entertaining to read the National Geographic piece on Rio Cuarto. Here I was wondering how to tackle the incredible work load that I am already facing, and now I find my schedule for the next week or so pretty much determined for me. Among the many other fascinating things

[meteorite-list] Death, Mr. Casper and Mr. Arnold

Hi all - I regret having to remind everyone of this, but my assumption is that all who participate in the meteorite list will die someday. In other words, baring the foundation of a new religion, someday you will die. At that point, the liquidation of your estate is a problem which will face

[meteorite-list] Falls not recovered

I don't think the removal of that fall onto a ship at sea from the catalogue was such a good idea - perhaps they need a separate section for falls observed, recovered, and then lost - ep __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and

Re: [meteorite-list] A curious reference

Hi Bernd, all - Looks like the search is on for a human blooded meteorite. ep --- Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric wrote: No other listed Australian fall comes close. Hello All! And what about finds as the story is shrouded in mystery? The only mismatch is the

[meteorite-list] Re: Plotting Months and Days

Hi Bernd - This calendar problem is no reason to stop your search for meteorite streams. Your initial work through the database will identify those specific fall dates which need to be verified first. all the best - ep --- Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bernd - Hello and

Re: [meteorite-list] re: Campo de Cielo impact - 17 February, 2325 BCE?

. Politeness is not adhered to because it is the 'right' way to behave in some abstract and inauthentic way, politeness is what sets some of us apart from animals. Dont ever repost my messages to the list again. ARC - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Re: Grondine, Native Americans and Campo de Cielo

Well, While it does not contain an apology, at least Marco's message contains an aknowledgement that he does not know much about this area, and a pledge that he won't share his ignorance with any of us in the future. Now if he had just pointed out not to be neglected incongruencies in

[meteorite-list] re: Campo de Cielo impact - 17 February, 2325 BCE?

and my reply with you when you go upstairs to visit them. I am quite sure they will enjoy reading it. I know I will. ep --- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E.P. Grondine wrote: It must be remembered that the massive Rio Cuarto impact (350 megatons, 25 October, 2360 BCE) occured

Re: [meteorite-list] re: Campo de Cielo impact - 17 February, 2325 BCE?

and common decency. You should have replied privately. Now you should apologise publicly. Alexander Crutchfield IMCA #5361 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 2:47 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] re: Campo de Cielo

Re: [meteorite-list] re: Campo de Cielo impact - 17 February, 2325 BCE?

of bandwidth, as was much of Marco's original message. ep --- Alex Crutchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grondine, you violated list rules and you owe the list an apology. You can accept responsibility for that or not. ARC - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Re: Something Different To Consider About (meteorite streams)

Hello Mark - While it is true that any meteorite stream is likely to be differentiated to one degree or another, it would seem to me that usually the differences would not be that great. Thus, given the complexities of trying to identify a stream from the data assembled so far, probably the

Re: [meteorite-list] re: Campo de Cielo impact - 17 February, 2325 BCE?

that the rules of polite society do not apply to you, perhaps because you feel deeply and moreover are in sympathy with an historically aggrieved group. In my eyes you are 0 for 2 and may have started a flame war. Also against list rules. ARC - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine

Re: [meteorite-list] re: Campo de Cielo impact - 17 February, 2325 BCE?

erroneous chronology. BTW, I took your advise to Marco and went to the link containing your report, which you included in your original post on this topic. I found it to contain much food for thought Best wishes, Charlie ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Re:Plotting Months and Days - Part 1

Hello Bernd - Great start, but... It would seem to me that looking for 364 day cycles is certainly a start, but that the cycles of intersection of the Earth with meteorite streams is likely to follow other patterns, patterns with other than 364 day time intervals between intersections. As you

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