Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

Dear Guy I think Bill serves the community at large to remind the list and newbies who know nothing about the real Steve-- so, sorry I strongly disagree that we should all use the delete button. Steve has contaminated our collections with his fake/mislabeled/ relabeled specimens. Conversely Steve

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

Again --I believe this to be a service-- 7 years of repeated misbehavior should show a permanent pattern of un-trustworthiness and and a total failure to become trustworthy--Yet many of you continue to buy from HIM based on HIS word alone that you are getting what you paid for. Many have come forw

Re: [meteorite-list] Re super magnet

If you are in a hurry --an old inoperative hard drive will have two of the bugars and mounted on a non magnetic plate which you can brass screw the thing onto your cane. Elton-- On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Pete Shugar wrote: > What's a good source for a super magnet? > How much? > Pete IM

[meteorite-list] Test delete

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[meteorite-list] Clarifying Inaccuracies ... was Wisconsin find vs fall

Mr Cook, as you've email account has" disappeared" in the middle of a discussion perhaps you did so inadvertently so I am resending via the meteorite central list. I think the discussion merits sharing. --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Brien Cook wrote: (private comments not disclosed-- not sent to list) M

Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield

Good idea James but one as to have access some of not all of recovery data. Meteorite hunters tend to form teams and don't share outside their team. The purpose for mapping the strewn field in early stages of the search is to develop a statistical tool called a "distribution ellipse" to aid in s

Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Fireball - AMS Reports

Great work Mike. I always find interesting how many folks are mis-oriented as to which direction their front windows actually face. Randomly clicking on a few of the reports, they are consistent with the suspected flight path window ( unlike last years PA fireball AMS reports). I did note that

Re: [meteorite-list] Regarding Livingston News Articles, slander - Attn. M. Farmer

Thanks for the alert Jason very well spoken. Elton On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Jason Utas wrote: > Hello All, > While perusing the sites pertaining to the fall, I've come across a > number of comments "by Michael Farmer." > Here's a prime example (one of many): > > http://www.necn.com/04/23/

[meteorite-list] Offensive Postings was Questionable Ebay Listings

Brian Cox wrote: "...I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another." One wonders how the same person could justify this post of in light of the above admonition for the list to be respectful? "She sounds like an old whore f

Re: [meteorite-list] Hard Core

I've similar thoughts myself, Doug. In most all graphic depictions of the impact from 65my ago, they show the earth's land masses as they are arrayed today! Were they using a paleo-map circa late-cretaceous, I believe it would show the India plate right in the center of the "anti-pode focii" a

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite?

There is an apparent weathering zone on this piece indicating some water intrusion and probably some leaching . It overlaps the supposed "metal flakes" without changing them. I think these flakes-- in absence of proof otherwise are mica flakes. I am not ready to rule this out or in but the matri

Re: [meteorite-list] Speed that meteors enter dark flight?

The simple answer is it depends on a lot of changing factors and broadly ranging bounded assumptions. I can only share some of those here to show why it is not a an easy answer. For one of those assumptions, you have to select amongst some drag coef

Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Meteorite Strikes Roof in Norway

Hummm,,, Strikes the ground at up to1000kph and not a single fireball or sonic boom report? Is this a new twist to the current wisdom about meteorite producing events? Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archiv

Re: [meteorite-list] Moon rocks Cases and outcomes

This my recollection about the dust history. I do not recall the story about accidental exposure but it is as likely as not. Other than Bean's claim there were two incidences of dust escaping government control. One was the Hasselblad film magazine which was dropped into the dust and was the one t

Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Tissint Martian on eBay

Yea-huh, the "tektite" portion from this "same meteorite" is a good clue that this seller hasn't a clue. Elton On 4/29/12, Michael Gilmer wrote: > Hi List, > > Any experienced collector can tell in 2 seconds that this is not > Tissint. In the past, I would politely contact these sellers and > i

Re: [meteorite-list] Vesta & HED's

Keep in mind that there are now some non-Vesta originating eucrites identified. So the pass state of knowledge holding that all HEDs were from Vesta should be qualified with a caveat that "Most all eucrites are from Vesta" or "with rare exception..." or "all most all..." Elton On 5/11/12, Benjam

Re: [meteorite-list] Never underestimate or dismiss Spectroscopy

The DAWN mission Public Affairs Office(?) wrote, "Recent results of the Dawn mission show that the asteroid Vesta is the only known remnant from a big early phase of planet formation." In Clintonesque fashion: the truth of this assertion rest on what the definition of "known" is. Vesta is NOT t

Re: [meteorite-list] Jason Utas in Met News

Way to go Jason! Great article--written very well. Also great photos. Elton On 5/17/12, drtanuki wrote: > Dear List, List member Jason Utas makes the news: > http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/05/latest-worldwide-meteormeteorite-news_18.html > > "Jason Utas, a junior majoring in ge

Re: [meteorite-list] Never underestimate or dismiss Spectroscopy

Dear Benjamin, I can see your argument and I got you point of preference but I don't get the resistance to accepting the facts regarding the current scheme of meteorite classification or the parallel field of parent bodies. I've already said several times when it is considered correct to connect

Re: [meteorite-list] Never underestimate or dismiss Spectroscopy

Me thinks we are in violent agreement. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] hollow meteorite on ebay

Dear Werner Nope!!! there are no "hollow meteorites", as physics wouldn't allow one-- and this is not a meteorite: it is a sedimentary nodule composed of any combination of iron compounds such as hematite/goethite/limonite -- known by its slang term "indian paint pot" in the US. These hollow nodu

Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer fall term

Sales of hour carbonaceous chondrite encrusted dead horse floggers are hereby held until we can modify our hoc-stock with hammer stone harvested, hand-wrapped hammer handles hurriedly hacked from houses hammered by hammer fall hunks. Hammer fall stones, country mail boxes, Malibus, sun shades or

Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Bolide Over Lebanon, Cyprus and Turkey 7JUN2012

Good call George. The trail has been tentatively linked to a Russian ICBM-class missile launched from southeast Russia. I don't remember if this was a reliability test or a scientific package. A commentator elsewhere suggested this was spewing fuel from a tumbling booster. The pattern is similar

Re: [meteorite-list] Ontario Meteor over 200 reports

--move along here-- nothing to see-- move along.< (Whispering to Jonathan) S...Sh...Hush! Your type of "scientific reasoning" is heresy on related lists composed of Esteemed Inquisitors and Elf Ostriches who look at the sky by night and stick their head in the sand by day. The man

Re: [meteorite-list] Ontario Meteor over 200 reports

The orbital parameters have been checked and they do not match the orbit of the NEO Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairl

Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html

Not taking from what Pete said, lonsdalite isn't a newly identified mineral, per se. It has been around a few years but the explanation as to how both types of crystals formed "during entry" is bogus. Boron nitrate may or may not be formed on exposure to atmospheric nitrogen-- but it would only

Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorites] http://phys.org/news184402061.html

Errata: Boron NITRIDE ( BN) not nitrATE (B(NO3)3)--(Bad spell checker-- Bad, bad!) On 7/1/12, MstrEman wrote: > Not taking from what Pete said, lonsdalite isn't a newly identified > mineral, per se. It has been around a few years but the explanation as > to how both types of c

Re: [meteorite-list] Question

Supernova's produced all the elements but it isn't gold nor iron Sulfide you are dealing with. Actually from description it is likely: iron nickle chloride (FeNi)Cl2 Sorry but you now have a sample of the mineral "lawrencite" on your specimen. Yes lawrencite of meteorite wasting fame

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs Explode over Russia (Video)

It is failry good for homemade special effects but: bogus bogus bogus. The mental midgets in the MUFON and End of Time2012 groups are abuzz with giddy little digital back slaps because they finally have video "proof" about aliens (rolling eyes) that no one can refute. Well gosh refute this.

[meteorite-list] OT-Who is redfig2@yahoo or on Ebay?

I and a dozen met list members are on his robot spam list. I would like to let him know that his address book has been compromised. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Met

[meteorite-list] Critical Assessment of the Comet as Provider of Earth's Waters

What do we know about the origin of the earth's oceans? Is it more likely that they derive from icy comets that struck the young earth or from material released from the earth's interior during volcanic activity? Full Article at

Re: [meteorite-list] Roadside Hunting and Ownership

Related to that, I did an ad hoc study once going down the British Museum's Catalog of Meteorites as to what profession finds the most meteorites: Farmers, Bedouins, and Grave Diggers seem to be the at the top. Elton On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Count Deiro wrote: > Hi Brian and List. > > Br

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust

In the totally "for what its worth" category... As to what the crust might be like chemically , I'll have to think it through more but what comes to mind first is instead of much magnetite ( Iron Oxide: Fe3O4)) which gives OCs that velvet look, one might find the variations on the nickel iron carb