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> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
>
> Hi Michael and all,
> I have opinions about these things and in the next METEORITE MARKET
> TRENDS in the January issue of METEORITE TIMES I will address them.
> In the m
Hi Michael and all,
I have opinions about these things and in the next METEORITE MARKET
TRENDS in the January issue of METEORITE TIMES I will address them.
In the mean time, folks, the louder we yell about this the more
likely we are to create resistance to impacting this situation
Hi Doug and Numerous Listers,
I apologize for my little Indian rant earlier. It's obvious that this
issue is not only controversial, but it also touches upon issues of
politics and culture. There is a lot at stake here, and the issue
merits attention. But, we must be smart about it. Tempers an
This "Meteorite List" is turning into a "Politics List"! lol I can understand
both sides of the debate, and as a small time private hunter, sure I would like
for the BLM to explicitly grant me broad, unrestricted permission to hunt
meteorites to my heart's content on public land. But is that li
h any well intentioned
batch of regulators, the unintended consequences are missed, once again.
Richard M
- Original Message -
From: "jason utas"
To: "Meteorite-list"
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:18:26 -0500
> From: meteoritem...@gmail.com
> To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com
> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
>
> Every inch of BLM land and all of America was stolen
Yep, were hard times then,
so they were for meteorite hunters.
Here Mike you see Tashtego, Starbuck, Captain Ahab and Ishmael hunting the
White meteorite.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/995914327_613befae01.jpg
Watch out, what will happen!
Here, Rob L. found that horrible testimony... be awa
t;> From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
>>
>> It is interesting that the BLM has pulled the Antiquities Act out of a hat
>> in this version. We can thank Douglas Schmidt
athers would be appalled at what is going on these days,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: jason utas
> To: Meteorite-list
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 7:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
>
> Adam...with all
...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von jason
utas
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2012 16:07
An: Meteorite-list
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Adam...with all due respect...
You can't substantiate a single thing you say, but insist that I'm the
gullible one
r the control of somebody
else.
Our founding fathers would be appalled at what is going on these days,
Adam
- Original Message -
From: jason utas
To: Meteorite-list
Cc:
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Adam...with al
is that hunters with a commercial/meteorite vending
permit will be more likely to have to pay taxes on their sales...if
they weren't already doing so.
Jason
> From: Adam Hupe
> Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
&
oritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von jason
utas
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2012 06:34
An: Meteorite-list
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Hello All,
I'd like to point out a few things:
As an active meteorite hunte
bout these laws. Apparently the limit is 10 lbs
per year, not 25. But how much Franconia do you really want?
Jason
> From: Adam Hupe
> Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
> To: Adam
>
>
> You have heard the sayin
: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of jason utas
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 5:25 AM
To: Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Hello Jodie,
You're nit-picking terminology more
livings by collecting BLM
>> resourceswell, why not complain about hunting permits, mining
>> permits, or anything else like that? If you're selling meteorites from
>> BLM land, it means that you're making money from finding them. Most
>> such things req
aking it this far just seemsa bit much.
> I've still yet to see a reason that I as a recreational meteorite
> hunter should care about these laws. Apparently the limit is 10 lbs
> per year, not 25. But how much Franconia do you really want?
> Jason
>> From: Adam Hupe
e limit is 10 lbs
per year, not 25. But how much Franconia do you really want?
Jason
> From: Adam Hupe
> Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
> To: Adam
>
>
> You have heard the saying "give an inch and t
Adam
- Original Message -
From: jason utas
To: Meteorite-list
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Hello All,
I'd like to point out a few things:
As an active meteorite hunter/collector, the proposed regulations
that I feel I might oppose these new regulations now
is because there's the chance that if they're passed, they *could* be
made more stringent in the future. However, since the current wording
doesn't affect me, I don't mind it.
All of this adamant nay-saying seems a bit much.
k in. That's the nature of an over reaching
government.
Greg L.
> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 08:00:05 -0800
> From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
>
> It is interesting that t
eorite List
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Perhaps we should all stop collecting & selling meteorites. Also, stop
giving to, selling or trading with institutions.
All of these things "bring attention to&quo
Nick I'm with you, I think if we can get the FACTS out together we can make a
change. All the finger pointing is pointless to point of making things worse.
Wow a lot of points there. Most all activity is in some way regulated on fed
land and we were lucky enough to skirt regulation so long so I
rming
precedent set with unelected appointed commisions dictating what can
subsequently be done with private property.
- Original Message -
From: "Martin Altmann"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
t;Meteorite List"
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Perhaps we should all stop collecting & selling meteorites. Also, stop
giving to, selling or trading with institutions.
All of these things "bring att
are being eyeballed. The media hype
is an ongoing mistake.
> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:07:56 -0800
> From: mlbl...@cox.net
> To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery
Perhaps we should all stop collecting & selling meteorites. Also, stop
giving to, selling or trading with institutions.
All of these things "bring attention to" meteorites and the fact
They are collected and valued by a very small few.
Michael
On 12/2/12 2:40 PM, "Adam Hupe" wrote
Dear Nicholas,
Please allow me to whole heartedly congratulate you on channeling
Your energy in a manor that is most likely to produce a positive outcome!
As the Brits would say, "Brilliant!"
Michael
On 12/2/12 7:08 AM, "Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D." wrote:
> Regarding the B
Martin Wrote:
(uh just read a while ago on web, that Botswana claims to have their
cultural heritage back, the biggest lunar Kalahai 009 and asked the
university muenster for it).
Good, maybe they can provide us with an accurate weight and dimensions instead
of rounding it off and hiding it fr
I think if we work together we can make some changes:
I just wrote to the editor of MAPS suggesting that it was time for a rejoinder
to Schmitt's article.
I also suggested that I will put my 18 students on the task of data-mining the
Meteoritical Data
Base for information on who found what, who
prüngliche Nachricht-
Von: h...@meteorhall.com [mailto:h...@meteorhall.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2012 00:32
An: Martin Altmann
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Martin, is coffee a total cost of $7 per pound or are th
ively lightly.
>
>
> Best!
> Martin
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Adam
> Hupe
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2012 22:46
> An: Adam
> Betre
---Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Adam
Hupe
Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2012 23:40
An: Adam
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Martin,
I don't see how I can be wrong
tablished that meteorites belong to the owner of the surface
estate."
- Original Message -
From: Martin Altmann
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
I think, you're b
Hupe
Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2012 22:46
An: Adam
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
TV entertainers and press-chasers have publicly turned looking for
meteorites into a treasure hunt complete with grossly inflated price-tags to
attract viewership. This is the same t
TV entertainers and press-chasers have publicly turned looking for meteorites
into a treasure hunt complete with grossly inflated price-tags to attract
viewership. This is the same tired but effective method that the lame Antique
Roadshow has used for over a decade. Perhaps these entertainers c
Btw. by far the best of the coolest meteorite laws I found in Swaziland!
Wait
it's only a little bit complicate, but let me give you a summary:
- Collecting of meteorites in National Parks is forbidden.
- The removing and exportation of a meteorite needs the permission of the
National Trust
Ph.D.
Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2012 21:01
An: Yinan Wang; Jim Strope
Cc: meteorite central
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Wichtigkeit: Hoch
>From my perspective, I think we ought not to go off half-cocked.
Apparently, that is what the BLM has done,
ang
[veom...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:49 PM
To: Jim Strope
Cc: meteorite central
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
My two cents on part of this topic:
I think part of the problem we're having is that there is not enough
clout or lobby for our hob
hat a nice legacy our
>> generation has left behind. May we never forget the few responsible for the
>> downfall of a great avocation.
>>
>>
>> Happy Hunting,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
&
ce American law.
Happy Hunting,
Adm
- Original Message -
From: Richard Montgomery
To: Jim Strope ; meteorite central
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
What a messwe're living during the trans
t exchange, monetary or
otherwise.
Let's keep a sharp eye on it. HUGE thanks to Nick for taking the
initiative.
-Richard Montgomery
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Strope"
To: "meteorite central"
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [meteor
__
> From: "Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D."
> To: meteorite-list
> Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:08 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
>
> Regarding the BLM's policy on "Collection of Meteorites on Public Land"
> posted
Here 'tis
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PSB..375S
- Original Message -
From: "Adam Hupe"
To: "Adam"
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
It is interesting that the BLM has p
Ph.D."
To: meteorite-list
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:08 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy
Regarding the BLM's policy on "Collection of Meteorites on Public Land" posted
at:
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instru
Regarding the BLM's policy on "Collection of Meteorites on Public Land" posted
at:
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html
I have written three emails of complaint to Lucia Kuizon, National
Paleontologist and lkui...
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