Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-13 Thread valparint
And the dog will never comprehend the world. >Blah, blah, blah. The fleas will never comprehend the dog. >Bill Paul Swartz __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-12 Thread Gerald Flaherty
--- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce Good evening Folks, Not wanting to intentionally sti

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-12 Thread star-bits
I am growing weary of this "debate" and since I seem to have the knack of ending threads on the rare occasions when I post on them, lets kill this one right now. Global warming isn't a debate it is two sides talking past each other. Side 1 sees glaciers melting and snowcapped mountains w

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-11 Thread GREG LINDH
sthen it's perfectly OK to write whatever they want. Talk about double standards! Greg Lindh - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Se

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-11 Thread Martin Altmann
n PS: and whether such climatic jumps occurred in past or are natural this isn't of primary interest for most. People have to cope now and in the following generations with it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Sterling K. Webb G

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-11 Thread LITIG8NSHARK
Good evening Folks, Not wanting to intentionally stir the "pot of angst", I won't share my opinions regarding the validity of the global warming theory..in great part because it conflicts with the beliefs of roughly half of the List and, arguably, neither extreme (entirely pro or con) posi

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-11 Thread Greg Hupe
of posts... - Original Message - From: "Bruce Yankewitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce (1) I find it notable that most (not all) of the posts in favor of human-

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2007-06-11 Thread Bruce Yankewitz
(1) I find it notable that most (not all) of the posts in favor of human-caused global warming have tended toward the emotional and feelings-based (some rising to the level of hysteria), whereas most (not all) of the skeptics' posts have been cool, calculated, scientific analyses. I don't s

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-11 Thread Jerry A. Wallace
Good Grief, Charlie Brown. I had no idea things had deteriorated to that point across the pond (again). I don't know whether to send food, money, or a sympathy card. Or maybe all three. Cheer up, maybe that planet destroying asteroid will be here sooner than expected. Or perhaps a case or two

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2007-06-11 Thread Spaceguard
riginal Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Schoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce We are a society that starves our grandchildren to feed our children.

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-11 Thread Mark Crawford
Spaceguard wrote: "We are seeing increasing numbers of Tsunami's, Volcanic eruptions and Earthquakes even here in England we are experiencing this." There is absolutely no evidence of any of this, especially in England! True... Tim's right about this bit though: :-) One really sad thing I

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-11 Thread tim . gingell
t this planet to >> terraform Mars, and >> mine asteroids (parent bodies of the meteorites we >> love) for their >> resources, all the while looking out into space or >> up into a Martian >> sky at a bright star that was the world we ruined.) >> >> Steve

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-11 Thread Steve Schoner
by then they will have left this planet to > terraform Mars, and > mine asteroids (parent bodies of the meteorites we > love) for their > resources, all the while looking out into space or > up into a Martian > sky at a bright star that was the world we ruined.) > > Steve Scho

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven

2007-06-11 Thread Rob McCafferty
May I draw peoples attention to a couple of points. 1: Global warming is definitely taking place. There can be no doubt over this 2: There is absolutely no smoking gun suggesting it is our fault I'm happy to accept that we would be irresponsible to ignore the phenomena and we should take steps

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Michael Farmer
s we > love) for their > resources, all the while looking out into space or > up into a Martian > sky at a bright star that was the world we ruined.) > > Steve Schoner. > #4470 > > [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically > proven or a farce > Michael F

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven

2007-06-10 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:03:19 -0400, you wrote: > > >Does anyone else get that "deja vous" feeling? > >It wasn't long ago when the planet was in panic from the "experts" >prediction about the approaching doom of Y2K - toasters refusing to toast, >and planes falling from the sky... > >A lot of mone

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven

2007-06-10 Thread Michael L Blood
on 6/10/07 5:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The rain forest "lungs" have a lot of help from phytoplankton, which > account for about 2/3 of all photosynthesis on the planet. Phytoplankton has has a little trouble with desalination of the oceans as the Polar ice cap and Anta

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven

2007-06-10 Thread Pete Pete
hen! Cheers, Pete From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:14:21 -0700 Mr. Farmer and Mr. Garrison: The intent of the bet I proposed was not to make money. It was to challange the idiocy of the al-Gore crowd

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Steve Schoner
that was the world we ruined.) Steve Schoner. #4470 [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce Michael Farmer meteoriteguy at yahoo.com Sun Jun 10 13:25:59 EDT 2007 * Previous message: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce * Next

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-10 Thread Michael L Blood
on 6/10/07 5:00 PM, Sterling K. Webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Michael, > It's a deal. If I have to hitch a ride in Kevin Cosner's > WaterWorld boat to get to Tuscon, boy, will my face > be red! > Sterling --- Hi Sterling, Just don't drink too much on the WaterWorld boat!

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven

2007-06-10 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:14:21 -0700, you wrote: >Mr. Farmer and Mr. Garrison: > >The intent of the bet I proposed was not to make money. It was to >challange the idiocy of the al-Gore crowd. So far, I have zero takers on a >proposition that requires a mere 1/5 of the accepted figure. Oh, I wasn'

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven

2007-06-10 Thread valparint
Mr. Farmer and Mr. Garrison: The intent of the bet I proposed was not to make money. It was to challange the idiocy of the al-Gore crowd. So far, I have zero takers on a proposition that requires a mere 1/5 of the accepted figure. Mr. Farmer: The rain forest "lungs" have a lot of help from phy

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb
> To: "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce Hi Sterling, First of all, I would like to thank you for being a gentleman in pres

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2007-06-10 Thread Trace
; To: "Marc Fries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce on 6/10/07 9:53 AM, Marc Fries at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your only source is "An

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Michael L Blood
;the > majority of life forms on the planet" got through that time 1000 > years ago with no trouble . > > 2. There is NO evidence that carbon dioxide is a primary cause, > or driver, of climate change. Period. Not now. Not ever. There are > a few episodes of sudden warming (and m

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce

2007-06-10 Thread Spaceguard
st" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce on 6/10/07 9:53 AM, Marc Fries at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your only source is "An Inconvenient Truth", then I'm not surprised to see you go straight

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Michael L Blood
on 6/10/07 9:53 AM, Marc Fries at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If your only source is "An Inconvenient Truth", then I'm not > surprised to see you go straight to the "anyone who doesn't think as > I do is an idiot" approach. -- No, Marc, As clearly outlined below, in my original post I N

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:25:59 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Unfortunately that is the mentality of a huge part of >our nation today, all about me, my money, and today, >screw tomorrow, and I gues screw our children, and >grandchildren, they can learn to live in the crappy >world we created today to get

[meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-10 Thread Metorman46
STERLING; Excellent oratory,puts a real spin face to the beast.Food for thought about the mechanics of political motives.I guess its just another chapter in the" NEW WORLD ORDER" thanks for the enlightening post. Herman Archer IMCA 2770. ** S

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Michael Farmer
Paul, ok, lest say you are the proud winner of that bet! Bush got his way, America refused to do it's part and the oceans only raise 4 feet in the next 10 years. I guess you had better go to Florida/New York City/Boston, most of the Gulf Coast, and well, most of the Island nations in the Pacific.

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread valparint
The web site for "an inconvenient truth" states that Mr. al-Gore thinks melting ice could raise global sea levels by 20 feet. I have $10,000 that says by June 10, 2017, global sea levels will not have risen by 4 feet or more relative to 2007. Email me off list if you'd like any part of this bet

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce

2007-06-10 Thread Michael Farmer
or at least > take a major hit. There's no controlling the > situation. > > Bill > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:38:35 -0700 (PDT) > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], &

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Michael Farmer
Sterling suggest that the earth is cooling? Hm, lets see, hotter temps every year, glaciers in Europe almost gone, Antarctic/Polar ice melting off (I for a fact, my mother was there for 6 months two years ago working at McMurdo station in Antarctica). Yup, in today's world, that certainly must

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread AL Mitterling
Greetings Sterling and listees, Well said Sterling! "Work will make you free" (1984) The time for debate is over, they say. It's irresponsible to argue about the science when confronted by disaster. Just go along... Accept it. The media have now "turned" the population at large to Majority War

[meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven

2007-06-10 Thread valparint
Thank you, Sterling, for cutting through the crap with your usual sharp analysis. As to buying an ostrich ranch, as M. Blood suggests, the birds would increase the output of green house gasses - CO2 from the north end, methane from the south. Paul Swartz >Hi, Rob, Michael, List > >Here w

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2007-06-10 Thread Dave Carothers
Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce Hi, Rob, Michael, List Here we go again! "Global Warming - Scientifically Proven or A Farce?" Bong, bong, bong! I'm sor

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce

2007-06-10 Thread Pete Pete
Well said, Sterling! From: "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Meteorite List" ,"Rob McCafferty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Jason Utas
gnificant in any way. (It's hard to have less evidence than NO evidence, so I guess that's just for emphasis.) 4. Nevertheless, Climate does change. In fact, Climate IS change. On long time scale, it's a serious problem. But not Warming. For 41 million years, it's been cooling. We&#x

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-10 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Nevertheless, Climate does change. In fact, Climate IS change. On long time scale, it's a serious problem. But not Warming. For 41 million years, it's been cooling. We're in an Ice Age. Global Warming would be nice, in my opinion, but it ain't happening. Change is not without

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce

2007-06-09 Thread Bill
) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora > farce > > Why would you say it is not man-made? Lets see, > Phoenix, HUGE city of millions of

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-09 Thread Bill
ECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a > farce > > Hi Rob, > I am usually able to waylay any strong feelings posts > might arouse in me. However, when talking about the survival > of not only e

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2007-06-09 Thread Michael Farmer
ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:12:26 -0700 >Hi Rob, > I am usually able to waylay any strong feelings posts >might arouse in me. However, when talking about the survival >o

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farce

2007-06-09 Thread harlan trammell
rty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven ora farceDate: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:12:26 -0700>Hi Rob,> I am usually able to waylay any strong feelings posts>might arouse in me. However, when talking about the survival>of

Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or a farce

2007-06-09 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Rob, I am usually able to waylay any strong feelings posts might arouse in me. However, when talking about the survival of not only everyone I love, but of the majority of life forms on the planet it becomes a little more difficult for me to keep my feelings in check. However, I will try