Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-17 Thread cdtucson
nal Message- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Pitt > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:49 PM > To: Adam Hupe > Cc: Adam > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of

[meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake-Leonid Meteor Shower

2010-11-17 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
While we're on the off-topic of minority bashing: I live in an area with a high concentration of Amish and Old-Order Mennonites. I don't know how many times I've heard people say: "You know you have to pay higher taxes because the Amish don't have to pay taxes because it's against their religion

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Blood
People always despise those they rip off. The entire southwest was stolen by the US from Mexico - When she was alive I used to love to hear my mother In law talk about "the line in the dirt" that the US tried To keep her separated from about a third of the family Which lived on the other side

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread michael cottingham
o: dar...@dof3.com; raremeteori...@yahoo.com > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:24:55 + > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake > > I would have to believe that the quoted cost is not for the antivenin > treatm

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Rose, David MD
Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Pitt Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:49 PM To: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Whoa. Adam, I know

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Eric and List, The cost for rattlesnake anti-venom seems to be around $3,500.00 for a small vial. I imagine that a Mojave Green's venom which is double-acting would require special treatment. I am certainly not an expert on such things. Perhaps a zoo keeper that handles snakes can answer

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Darryl Pitt
Whoa. Adam, I know you're only relating what you've been informed, but something needs to be said of the nurse's outrageous ignorance. The notion that aliens don't have insurance and U.S. citizens all carry insurance has hardly been the case. A significant fraction of the citizenry of Nevad

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Meteorites USA
nn To: Adam Hupe; Adam Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 3:58:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Aaaahh, those bloody non-insured illegal people. Always waiting in the desert to get bitten exactly just before insured citizens. Only to cause them trou

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Hupe
n the field simply isn't practical. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Matthias Bärmann To: Adam Hupe ; Adam Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 3:58:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Aaaahh, those bloody non-insured ille

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Adam Hupe
I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is dif

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Count Deiro
freeze it. Watch where you put your hands and feet and don't walk close to creosote bushes...day or night. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Meteorites USA >Sent: Nov 16, 2010 12:21 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-16 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi List, Questions... Is it possible, since the Mojave Green is so deadly, to secure some sort of antivenin for use in an emergency while in the field? I've read the antivenin needs to be refrigerated? There are tiny 12v portable fridges you can have with you at camp... So if you're in the

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Meteorites USA
Original Message - From: "Thomas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Another good point that people often don't think of is to remove jewelry on the affected

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Jay & Annette
the other !! > > Take care on these desert hunts!! > > Jan, > IMCA 9833 > Holland > > > > - Original Message - From: "Thomas" > To: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojav

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread wahlperry
rom: GeoZay To: meteorite-list Sent: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 8:20 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Not sure the ice thing would be a good idea. The DoD, suggests that ice is a cause of amputation in snake bites (see link below). Also the CDC and WebMD discour

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Jan Bartels
9833 Holland - Original Message - From: "Thomas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Another good point that people often don't think of is to remove jewelr

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas
Another good point that people often don't think of is to remove jewelry on the affected limb. Rings especially. The swelling from a snakebite is unbelievable. A hand can get almost as big as a soccer ball. A ring left on will cost you that finger. Transport fast and call ahead if possible, it

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Count Deiro
Nov 15, 2010 12:11 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake > >Hey Guido, List, > >Not sure the ice thing would be a good idea. The DoD, suggests that ice >is a cause of amputation in snake bites

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread GeoZay
>>Not sure the ice thing would be a good idea. The DoD, suggests that ice is a cause of amputation in snake bites (see link below). Also the CDC and WebMD discourages the use of ice in the treatment of snakebite.<< I was in the Fire Service for 30 years and I'd swear that the treatment for

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Meteorites USA
Hey Guido, List, Not sure the ice thing would be a good idea. The DoD, suggests that ice is a cause of amputation in snake bites (see link below). Also the CDC and WebMD discourages the use of ice in the treatment of snakebite. "...Don't use ice to slow the spread of the venom. Researchers ha

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Count Deiro
Adam >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake > >Hi Adam, > >Good post. Everyone should carry a snake-bite kit when out hiking or >prospecting in areas with venomous snakes. We have rattlesnakes down >here in Florida and they congregate in are

Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Adam, Good post. Everyone should carry a snake-bite kit when out hiking or prospecting in areas with venomous snakes. We have rattlesnakes down here in Florida and they congregate in areas of thick Palmetto bushes where they are impossible to see. When I was a kid and used to go hiking with

[meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake

2010-11-15 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, Just a note to warn meteorite hunters not to be too complacent. The most feared creature here in the Southwest is the Mojave Green Rattlesnake and rightfully so considering its venom is 75 times more deadly than that of a Cobra. You got about 1/2 hour to get anti-venom an