Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Ryan King wrote: 1. Actually, you don't need to have lat/long to get distance. There are plenty of services for translating human readable addresses into machine readable values. 2. Remember, lat/long is not human first. Lat/long is for machines. Few people use

Re: History Microformat (was Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?)

On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Jeremy Boggs wrote: i would be very interested in helping to explore a "history" microformat. In my spare time, I've been collecting examples of history timelines, after discussions a few months ago on this list about the inability of using hCalendar to mark up be

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Michael MD wrote: Use adr [http://microformats.org/wiki/adr], or hcard [mfwhttp:// microformats.org/wiki/hcard]. and yes I will use those too, where appropriate.. but to get an idea of how far something is from something else I would need to use lat/long coordinate

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

On Oct 2, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I have had a really hard time finding currency examples on the Web using something else/more than the "price" class name to qualify currency amounts How much data was marked up with "dtstart", "fn" or "entry-content" as a class name, before mi

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries, counties, towns, cities, gardens, parks, nature reserves, and ind

[uf-discuss] measure page

I have started a measure page at http://microformats.org/wiki/measure mainly to start tracking examples and existing formats for describing measures. http://microformats.org/wiki/measure Guillaume ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-di

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

Le 3 oct. 06 à 06:00, Chris Casciano a écrit : It may be worth looking at the recent changes istockphoto has made wrt. localizing tags [as part of a bigger localization effort] before getting too deep into this conversation on one side of the other. I've only caught a wiff of it for mention

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

> > > Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? > > I suspect you actually mean 'precision' not 'accuracy', no? yes pecision is probably closer to what I meant > > > > I don't think the character of the resource being described is enough. > > What do you mean by 'character of

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

Scott, Please ignore my last post on the subject. As Andy M. pointed to me in another thread, I took an extreme interpretation of the process. Mea culpa. And sorry in advance for this long post. On the subject of what is useful to do now with currency, I agree with you that limiting the prop

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Kevin Marks wrote: On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Chris Casciano wrote: You could outline any territory as a series of geos if the need ever arose. But I'm still not clear how we've gotten here. If I want to say something is in Ireland, or Mexico City or somewhere

RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats and SIOC

Hi John, Very interesting post, I'm glad to see this topic actively pursued. Here's my overly details reply - http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=91 (I'm trying to avoid doing my homework :) I'm pretty sure it's also properly marked up using cite-rel... Regards, Eran. > -Original Message- > Fr

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Kevin Marks wrote: On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Chris Casciano wrote: You could outline any territory as a series of geos if the need ever arose. But I'm still not clear how we've gotten here. If I want to say something is in Ireland, or Mexico City or somewhere

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Michael MD wrote: Not really, if it's a large city... Consider Birmingham, England, whose "centre" is far from being equidistant to all points on its boundary - it's in "Ladywood" on this map: http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/wards GeoRSS uses a "radius" element

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Chris Casciano wrote: You could outline any territory as a series of geos if the need ever arose. But I'm still not clear how we've gotten here. If I want to say something is in Ireland, or Mexico City or somewhere in the Alps I'd tag it as such. I thought the or

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Marks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Andy, you're missing the point. No, I'm not. This was a discussion on accuracy of co-ordinates, and I was developing that theme. If you want to start one on 'representin

RE: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

>A center of a city may be fairly accurate, with the >bounds of the city specified as a radius. Not really, if it's a large city... >Consider Birmingham, England, whose "centre" is far from being >equidistant to all points on its boundary - it's in "Ladywood" on this >map: >http://www.b

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Marks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Andy, you're missing the point. No, I'm not. If If That's not a point, that's a conditional conjecture. We don't Who don't? Instead of criticizing the structur

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Casciano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries, counties, towns, cities, garde

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin Marks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Andy, you're missing the point. No, I'm not. >If >If That's not a point, that's a conditional conjecture. >We don't Who don't? -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards:

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Casciano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... >>> >>> I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. >> >> Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries, counties, towns, >> cities, gardens, parks, nature reserves, and indust

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Michael MD wrote: Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? I suspect you actually mean 'precision' not 'accuracy', no? ... I don't think the character of the resource being described is enough. What do you mean by 'character of the resourc

Re: [uf-discuss] The trouble with titles (in hAtom)

On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes - markup inside the are supposed to be ignored wrt. hAtom elements Why is that? So that you can quote other content marked up in hAtom. The same rule applies to , if

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Finally (from me, for now), I've had an e-mail from someone wanting to comment on the "species" proposal, saying: I've just tried creating an account on the micr

Re: [uf-discuss] Pingeratti - multiple submissions

Ryan King wrote: As far as I know, you're the first person who's asked for this functionality. I wouldn't mind building it into pingerati if and when we see some more demand. Until then, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a tool which will take care of this. Until then you're all very

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

Andy, you're missing the point. A bare lat-long pair is not always helpful. If that's all you have, you can't really display a useful map. The existing mapping tools tend to use product-specific ways of specifying the degree of zoom needed, to distinguish between the right side of my desk, th

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries, counties, towns, cities, gardens,

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> Or the capacity to describe a polygon... > >I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries, counties, towns, cities, gardens, parks, nature reserves, and industrial estates are

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Colin Barrett wrote: On Oct 2, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. A radius is Good Enough. We don't need to re-implement KML here. I think somehow we jumped right from defini

[uf-discuss] Microformats and SIOC

Hi all - For those involved in cite-rel or interested in the area of distributed conversations (and Eran's cool distributed social anything ideas!), I have written a few ideas about how SIOC [2] relates to Microformats and vice versa on my blog [1]... [1] http://www.johnbreslin.com/blog/2006

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

On Oct 2, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. A radius is Good Enough. We don't need to re-implement KML here. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-d

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki spamming

On Sep 30, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I've just reverted some porn spamming from the main page of the Wiki - someone might want to remove the user concerned. Has anyone gotten to this? -ryan ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microfor

Re: [uf-discuss] Pingeratti - multiple submissions

On Sep 30, 2006, at 12:39 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Currently no. Why not just write a script that runs on your side and programmatically pings the relevant URLs? Firstly, I don't programme. I'm sorry, I tend to assume that

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:32 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: It is irrelevant what some sites "may" do. What is relevant is what sites *actually* do. Do you have any other examples? Go explore sites in other languages than English, then gather the results, and you might understand what sites are *

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >A center of a city may be fairly accurate, with the >bounds of the city specified as a radius. Consider Birmingham, England, whose "centre" is far from being equidistant to all points on its boundary - it's in "Ladywood" on

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: species

I'd like to see this microformat integrated into hCard. (I've just been meeting lots of VCs recently) Paul On 10/1/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett ><[EMAIL PROTECT

[uf-discuss] existing currency formats: XBRL

I took a look at the semantics used by XBRL for currency amounts (a standard for corporate financial reporting pushed among others by the SEC). I have made an adaptation of them in semantic XHTML: http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-formats#XBRL (without incorporating existing thoughts on cu

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael MD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? Yes - the number of decimal places given. The question seems a little fuzzy. I assume Michael meant "accuracy" of the coordina

Re: [uf-discuss] The trouble with titles (in hAtom)

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >- markup inside the are supposed to be ignored wrt. hAtom elements Why is that? -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: Free Our Data:

Re: [uf-discuss] Process to handle decentralized creation of new microformats?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Semantic XHTML has been widely adopted by the web design and >development community. Really? Is that widely according to your "80/20" measure? >As was discussed very early in the history of microformats, if there >are hundr

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >Finally (from me, for now), I've had an e-mail from someone wanting to >comment on the "species" proposal, saying: > >I've just tried creating an account on the microformats site so >that I can join in with

Re: [uf-discuss] copy-and-paste metadata prior art?

On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:04 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: indeed, imagine next-generation desktop functionality where one could paste metadata long with content Mac OS X does that right now, actually. Which is (of course) the whole idea behind the patent ;) __

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Guillaume Lebleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I have had a really hard time finding currency examples on the Web >using something else/more than the "price" class name to qualify >currency amounts How much data was marked up with "dtstart", "fn" or "entry-content" a

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

I have had a really hard time finding currency examples on the Web using something else/more than the "price" class name to qualify currency amounts (I wish there was a search engine for HTML source code). Actually, I haven't found any (only one is documented on the http://microformats.org/wiki

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lachlan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >There are formats being discussed for marking up currency. Here: -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards:

Re: [uf-discuss] Technorati.com/events and Outlook

Jeremy Flint wrote: > What is the status of hCal events working in Outlook (testing in 2003) > when fed through the feeds.technorati.com/events url? > > Is it something that is do-able or is it a bug in the code at > Technorati? I have noticed that when I use Tails in Firefox, the > events work in

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

> There are formats being discussed for marking up currency. hListing has > the ability to markup prices, although I think it should be free to > contact someone. It would be if we had the ability to list profiles on > our own sites (where we wouldn't be restricted by the contact info we > c

Re: [uf-discuss] copy-and-paste metadata prior art?

On 10/2/06, John Allsopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In an application I developed in 1994-6, "Palimpsest" you could cut and paste the links (I called them "cross references") and annotations, which had rich meta data in them. You could "tag" links and annotations with "labels", links and annotat

Re: [uf-discuss] The trouble with titles (in hAtom)

Fixed. Y'all can try it by pasting in the text here [1]. For those not heads down in hAtom, the tricky parts in the sample below are: - markup inside the are supposed to be ignored wrt. hAtom elements - missing entry-title then should trigger the logic outlined below - multiple entry-content se

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

Michael MD wrote: There are several problems with this: * Service providers usually require you to pay before you can contact someone you've found or vice versa. Such sites usually allow you to browse user profiles for free, but expect you to pay to contact anyone so I think there is probably

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael MD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? Yes - the number of decimal places given. -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: Free Our Data

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

>There are several problems with this: >* Service providers usually require you to pay before you can contact >someone you've found or vice versa. Such sites usually allow you to browse user profiles for free, but expect you to pay to contact anyone so I think there is probably a need for a way

[uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? Some information (such as data used for street maps) would obviously have to be as accurate as possible but there would be other cases where it would be useful to just be able specify that something is in a certain city and easily work