Brian Suda wrote:
> --- if you can give-us any other information, who exactly the company
> is, etc and any other information from the legal team we can attempt
> to work around these problems or debunk the FUD.
Our company is Digital Bazaar, Inc. we provide digital content delivery
services (buyi
patent policy is - we could
arrange that. However, it is going to cost us a sizeable chunk of change
and we wanted to make sure that the community was listening before we
went out and arranged to have that happen.
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
> /video-metadata-models
> /microshow
That's incredibly strange - both of these links appear under the
"Related" and "See Also" sections of those pages. Should red-link items
be placed under each of those sections? There isn't anything at the end
of the links to "relate" to or
Things can still change, but after talking a bit with the Firefox 3
folks - Microformats are starting to look more and more like they're
going to be supported in a big way in the next major release of the browser.
http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/01/the-user-interface-of-firefox-3-features/
Rohit Khare wrote:
> Migrating to a new, clearer copyright regime will not happen overnight
> and must be done clearly and cleanly -- but it begins, I submit, by
> offering to cooperate in the construction of a new regime. Please
> consider joining in by adding the release to you user profiles tod
Paul Wilkins wrote:
> From: "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Paul Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>> It could be a lot better if it said
>>> "Accesskeys differ according to your browser." which links off to a
>>> page that explains about Accesskeys, followed by "use ACCESSKEY S to
>>> save
Scott Reynen wrote:
> The microformats admins have decided to ban Andy Mabbet from this
> community (both email lists and wiki) for one week, due to continued
> failure to adhere to the "be nice" guideline [1] after a private warning.
I don't condone Andy's tone when replying to the thread that st
Alex Faaborg wrote:
> Yes, while previous Firefox designs have focused on the browser
> injecting UI into the page, this discussion is about how the content
> creator should provide links and buttons for acting on microformatted
> content.
I'm probably being a bit dense, but it looks like we're en
Manu Sporny wrote:
> Here are some other examples:
>
> action://map/find/eiffel-tower
> action://
Sorry, here are the other examples:
action://location/find/eiffel-tower
action://license/fulltext/Harry-Potter-and-the-Order-of-the-Phoenix
action://feed/subscribe/cool-hatom-feed
ac
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> I think it's time we moved the specs to *-spec or *-specification, and
> used the "root" page for each microformat, such as the above, for a
> plain-language introduction, taking care to avoid jargon as much as
> possible.
+1 for this idea. There have been several times where
fox 3.
This is the same way that Eclipse shows the developer warnings, comments
and errors via the code editor. It would do well as a transient UI AND
wouldn't be intrusive on the browsing experience when the UI is active.
Exciting stuff...
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Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
> I really like the idea of allowing additional control over
> presentation via pseudo-classes, but I am worried that :target isn't
> quite right, at least if we follow the spec to the letter
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#target-pseudo), specifically
> since this ps
Brian Suda wrote:
> Also, there is the same discussion on going on the RDFa mailing list:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0113.html
>
> As Ivan Herman replied on that list, GRDDL handles much of what you
> are looking for as well and much of those Microformats
Paul Wilkins wrote:
> The hAudio time should be denoted in seconds. If 3:23 is given it's to
> be seen as three minutes and twenty two seconds. If hours are needed
> it should be 1:3:23 (0 prefix optional) to denote 1 hour three minutes
> and twenty two seconds.
>
> This way the hAudio standard ca
Paul Wilkins wrote:
> Another possible solution is to provide greater detail for the time itself.
>
> 2:23
>
> This I understand is an acceptable title for screen readers, it
> expands suitably on 2:23 (which could be 2 hours 23 minutes or 2
> minutes 23 seconds) and it's computer understandable
Paul Wilkins wrote:
> 2:23
>
> With this it is not possible to prevent the title from being used by
> screen readers and other people who hover their mouse over the time
> value.
This is not true. You can set several, of not all, screen readers to not
read titles of SPAN elements.
It is importan
ur proposal
above doesn't solve those problems.
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On Sun, December 16, 2007 19:14, Manu Sporny wrote:
>> Paul Wilkins wrote:
>>
>>> Another possible solution is to provide greater detail for the time
>>> itself.
>>>
>>> 2:
Paul Wilkins wrote:
> On Dec 17, 2007 2:38 PM, Manu Sporny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> By constricting DURATION to have a restrictive format, HH:MM:SS, we are
>> being short-sighted and are not thinking about the other Microformats
>> that are still to come that wi
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#adef-title
>>
>> title = text [CS]
>> This attribute offers advisory information about the element for
>> which it is set.
>> -
Happy Holidays, all :)
I've had a hard time explaining what the semantic web is about in a
concise manner over the past several months, so I decided to focus on
answering that for people that don't really know much about the web.
I spent the last couple of days playing around with the video creat
Finished an RDFa Basics video this weekend. It attempts to explain RDF,
CURIEs, N3 and basic RDFa in 8 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldl0m-5zLz4
Thought some of you would want to learn about some of the upcoming
features of XHTML2 as well as compare and contrast how RDFa differs from
Mi
Guillaume Lebleu wrote:
> Manu Sporny wrote:
>> Constructive feedback would be great, as I'll probably be doing the
>> "advanced" RDFa tutorial in a month or so, and will need to know what
>> worked and what didn't in the RDFa Basics video.
>>
&
Michael Smethurst wrote:
> On 11/1/08 10:31, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
>>> interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
>> We haven't decided yet, and I would love to hear people's opinions
>> both in favor of and against including RDFa support i
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael
> Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>> On 11/1/08 10:31, "Alex Faaborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
do you have any plans to support rdf-a in the
interface? In 4.0, 5.0, 6.0?
>>>
>>> We haven't decided yet, and I would
going with
all of this?
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
> Note also that Dublin Core provides a range of pre-existing
> vocabularies, which might e re-usable (without the dc. prefix) where
> names are needed for classes in other microformats. For example, the DC
> type "sound" might be useful at the lowest level of hAudio
Not to men
one. I
have also invited them to put MicroID through the uF process or create
an RDFa vocabulary.
I'll let this list know when I have gotten a reply from them.
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Alf Eaton wrote:
> I was looking at using haudio today, but stumbled on the 'contributor'
> field: is there a reason it's 'contributor' rather than 'creator', even
> for the main creator (artist, in music) of the piece of audio?
We decided to not use "creator" because it would not be the proper
se
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Manu Sporny
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>> If only one contributor is listed, it is assumed that he/she/it is also
>> the creator of the hAudio. If multiple contributors are listed, it is
>> assumed th
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> It seems strange that the microformat does not distinguish between the
> main "contributor" and others.
It does - you list the main contributor first, if you care about that
sort of thing. Otherwise, you can list them in any order.
> Both the Beatles and Geoff Emerick
> "co
Alf Eaton wrote:
> It would work, but so would a number of very complicated things. My
> needs are essentially very simple:
>
> Primal Scream - Screamadelica
>
> so
>
> Primal Scream - class="album">Screamadelica
Why doesn't the following work for you, then?
Primal Scream -
Screamadeli
Alf Eaton wrote:
> How about this:
> * All "contributors" played a role in the creation of the audio.
> * If there's one or more "creators", those entities played a primary role.
We looked at that approach, and found that we didn't have the examples
to back up the argument that we should make the
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Manu Sporny
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>> Why doesn't the following work for you, then?
>>
>>
>> Primal Scream -
>> Screamadelica
>>
>>
>> Per the hAudio spec,
Alf Eaton wrote:
>> The example above is valid hAudio markup - is your issue with the word
>> "contributor" instead of "creator"?
>
> Basically, yes :-) And it's not a huge issue, I was just wondering if
> there was justification for it being that way - which there is, it seems.
We're also tracki
Robert O'Rourke wrote:
> Ah yes, so would you say 'performer', 'creator' and 'composer' are roles
> and not different to being a contributor?
Yes, that is why 'contributor' was picked, rather than 'performer',
'creator', or 'composer'. :)
> It would be useful to have a
> more blanket term for in
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Manu Sporny
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>>> It would be useful to have a
>>> more blanket term for instances where one person has multiple roles of
>>> that kind.
>>
>> You ca
Thom Shannon wrote:
> perhaps there was prior discussion and agreement that was just a long
> time ago? Have you searched the archives or asked Tantek directly?
Here's the IRC log regarding the change to the wiki:
http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2008-02-07#T010220
I agree with the change -
-berlin.de/flickrwrappr/page/photosDepictingLocation/41.9/12.483/1
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lazkov - 110 posts - 0.94% of contributions
benjamin west - 107 posts - 0.91% of contributions
Here are the top-10 contributors to the microformats-new mailing list:
manu sporny - 298 posts - 19.13% of contributions
martin mcevoy - 238 posts - 15.28% of contributions
andy m
butions to
this community. I hope you didn't mean to be as snide as the language in
the statement above conveys.
The link to the Wikipedia ban is helpful, though. It is what I would
have expected to see prior to Andy's 18 month ban.
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e to Wikipedia[2]
If you want to focus on making this community run smoother, focus on
those things and the next time something like this happens, we won't
have to re-hash this discussion.
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[2]http:
t prolific mailing list
contributors.
2. It would be good to have an automatic process that could detect and
log wiki edit wars, thus reducing the load on the admins and the rest
of the community.
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blog: RDFa Basics (v
Fuzzbot is designed to detect RDFa and other semantic data formats and
display them to the person browsing. RDFa is a way to embed
machine-readable data into web pages, which helps computers help you
interact with web pages in a smarter way. For example, Fuzzbot can show
you information about peopl
Surprised the semantic story du jour hasn't been posted to this list
yet. Congrats to the XFN, and hCard folks :)
http://blog.digg.com/?p=120
PS: Steve Williams is a good guy - he really does care about this stuff.
Digg Ro
a very useful concept and merits further
discussion on microformats-dev.
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I send
it to? You, Tantek, or somebody else?
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Practical Web Semantics Part 3 of 4: RDFa Concepts
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Practical Web Semantics Part 4 of 4: Demos and Questions
http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/talks/practical-web-semantics/part4.html
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ybody else blogging about this?
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Hi uFers,
Based on work that was done in this community over a year ago, we've
attempted to do a port of hAudio over to the RDFa world. The result is a
set of 4 vocabularies for media, audio, video and commerce. We used a
number of Microformats principles when porting the vocabularies and
re-using
nal Data Portability
(bonuses: copious diversity and "the liberal agenda")
http://www.vimeo.com/1488633
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There have been several threads discussing Microformats, RDFa and HTML5
that are occurring on the WHATWG mailing list. The discussion relates to
whether or not HTML5 should depend on the Microformats community to
solve HTML5's semantic markup issues, or if both Microformats and RDFa
should be consi
threads, so
some feedback from this list would be appreciated.
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W3C on this endeavor?
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André Luís wrote:
> Manu,
> the css based approach is somethin that has come up in discussions
> about semantics with fellow workers. I believe it does not trash all
> of the hard work the communities have don so far.
I never said the discussions "trashed" all of our hard work. I said that
some of
Ben Ward wrote:
>> It will take a couple of weeks to give examples of how this will all
>> work, but I wanted to get feedback from this community before
>> proceeding. We have a fantastic opportunity in front of us now - who in
>> this community thinks that we should work with the W3C on this endea
Tantek Celik wrote:
> Completely agreed w all of Ben Ward's points.
Even the ones that seem to state that RDFa does not operate in the realm
of HTML? The reason I raise this point is that RDFa will be a W3C
standard, applicable to XHTML1.1 and XHTML2 by the end of October 2008
(roughly). We're in
Scott Reynen wrote:
> That, or we'd compromise RDFa.
I can almost guarantee that neither side is going to compromise their
set of beliefs. The Microformats community is too hard headed to do so,
and the RDFa community has a very long, arduous W3C process to consider
when changing anything major i
Samuel Santos has started blogging about the HTML5 + RDFa/Microformats
discussion that we've been having in WHATWG:
http://www.samaxes.com/2008/08/29/the-semantic-web-and-rdfa/
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Interesting blog post by Shane McCarron of XHTML2 fame. He has been
involved in the standards community since 1985. His name is on just
about every major HTML standard to come out of the W3C - if you use HTML
4.01, XHTML1.0, XHTML 1.1, or will use XHTML2 (to name a few), you're
using specs that he
Martin McEvoy wrote:
>> http://halindrome.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-we-do-what-we-do.html
>>
> Thanks Manu for an interesting post, I have made some comments ;-)
> I am a bit worried about Shane's other post
>
>> Shane wrote:
>> Unlike microformats, the idiom for annotating your content does not
Tantek Celik wrote:
> eventually decided that it was time that someone started to experiment
> with the broad semantic HTML *today* work being done by modern web
> designers, solving today's real world web problems, with shared
> vocabularies based on existing standards. I met up with Kevin Marks
>
Thomas Loertsch wrote:
>> I'm not sure that an RDFa serialization is something that needs
>> endorsement or hosting by microformats.org. Once hRecipe is
>> formalised, RDF/RDFa-based work that uses the hRecipe vocabulary needs
>> no input from microformats.org. The syntax for the RDFa is derived
>>
/labs.mozilla.com/2008/08/introducing-ubiquity/
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roformats.org/wiki/hlisting-extended-examples
[4]http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info-examples
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blog
motivated individuals to
push some of these initiatives forward.
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e helping an initiative that could
very well benefit the human condition. The discussion may come to
nothing, but let's give it a chance before shutting it down prematurely.
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[1] http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/SNPedia
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3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa/2009May/0011.html
Congrats to everyone in the community and everyone that has helped
create a Microformat!
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ite? I
couldn't find it.
Wikipedia is currently marking up over 119,555 songs and albums with
hAudio markup - why is that not enough?
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