It's like Unix pipes 2.0. This time with more ajax and rounded
corners. :D
-ryan
On Oct 7, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Benjamin West wrote:
Wow. Nice job all around!
Here's my added twist to it. I took the URI Andy just posted, and
sent it through lm orchard's xstlproc on the web to fetch my rss
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Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Wow... this converter has never been through a full-scale test before
(only tested on my own pages)... so ya... that shouldn't happen. I
think I may know the problem, and will try to fix it soon :) Thanks
for finding all
Wow. Nice job all around!
Here's my added twist to it. I took the URI Andy just posted, and
sent it through lm orchard's xstlproc on the web to fetch my rss to
hyperscope xslt and transform it. Since he's got hyperscope on his
host, the document displays just fine.
Incredible stuff.
Wow... this converter has never been through a full-scale test before
(only tested on my own pages)... so ya... that shouldn't happen. I
think I may know the problem, and will try to fix it soon :) Thanks
for finding all this stuff!
On 9/27/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Well, having been in RSS 2.0 for awhile (since I hate ATOM...) I don't
think this is really a problem at all. Everything, everywhere is
single-escaped (XML-style) and things that will be escaped when the
content is rendered as XHTML (description only) are double-escaped.
In this case, it's in
On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:53 AM, David Janes wrote:
Quite honestly, I'm still mulling this one over. I note:
- I've never seen it in the wild
- something feels off to me about hiding human readable content
in an ABBR
- I can think off some places where it would be useful though
I've found
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
[ re: http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/ladywalk/latest.htm ]
Nonetheless, Sage is now showing some very odd results (do you see that,
or shall I flickr a screenshot?)
screenshot, I don't have Sage installed anymore,
In message
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Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
This is a converter
I've got some bad news...
I've been using this hAtom markup:
li class=hentry id=D2006-09-20
abbr class=updated entry-title
title=2006-09-2020th/abbr:
span
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Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Why?
Why what?
The entry-content is X, where X is the HTML content between paired
tags span class=entry-contentX/span.
But that's not what's being rendered. The HTML content between the
paired tags is:
abbr
Ah yes, sorry missed that! Back to bed...
Regards, etc...
On 9/27/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Why?
Why what?
The entry-content is X, where X is the HTML content between paired
tags span
On 9/26/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there instead of quot; would
be perfectly legal and solve the problem, the escaped ampersand is my
code escaping out your HTML entities, which the validator then finds
bad because there should be no enitities in a title).
it seems reasonable to
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Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
For the first item, it didn't help that your page was not quite valid
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.westmidlandbirdclub.com%2Fnew.htm,
however I think I have fixed it now anyway and got around that :)
On 9/26/06, Stephen Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pubDateTue, 26 Sep 2006 20:00:00 +/pubDate
As I said, the title=blah on the abbr is assumed to go with the
date, not the title.
Am I right in thinking that while other microformats specify that
ABBR titles should replace
I'm getting errors for both feeds, on the validator. Using:
http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php?xn_auth=nourl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.westmidlandbirdclub.com%2Fnew.htm
in:
http://feedvalidator.org/
gives:
http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxoxotools.ni
No... at least in my understanding the title attribute only replaces
the literal content on certain fields (such as dates) or when there is
only one textual field (such as if this were only a title), never on
something that is both date (title attr) and title (content)...
On 9/26/06, Ciaran
Quite honestly, I'm still mulling this one over. I note:
- I've never seen it in the wild
- something feels off to me about hiding human readable content in an ABBR
- I can think off some places where it would be useful though
I'd be much happier if there was a general rulle across all
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Stephen Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The converter currently blindly uses the permalink value as GUID, if
you use the same permalink twice in your hAtom you get this error.
Is that wise? Using the same link twice is allowed, isn't it?
It
does not affect
The converter currently blindly uses the permalink value as GUID, if
you use the same permalink twice in your hAtom you get this error.
Is that wise? Using the same link twice is allowed, isn't it?
This is a converter, not a standardiser. It assumes that your hAtom
is equivalent to legal RSS.
Stephen Paul Weber wrote:
If you see ../biblio/BirdLife/1983-0506-42.htm on a page on the web,
it can have only one meaning, in the context in which you're seeing, it.
Hmm... you may have convinced me, although I'm not sure how to go
about this. So far the converter has been assuming that
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Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The converter currently blindly uses the permalink value as GUID, if
you use the same permalink twice in your hAtom you get this error.
Is that wise? Using the same link twice is allowed, isn't it?
This is a converter,
I am suggesting that since XHTML is disreccomended in RSS title AND
in ATOM title tags that it may not be wise to have it in the
entry-title (ie, using the character
What character?
the quotation-mark charater, which is legal everywhere in XHTML except
inside an attribute.
there instead of
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Stephen
Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I am suggesting that since XHTML is disreccomended in RSS title AND
in ATOM title tags that it may not be wise to have it in the
entry-title (ie, using the character
What character?
the quotation-mark charater, which
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Stephen
Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I am suggesting that since XHTML is disreccomended in RSS title AND
in ATOM title tags that it may not be wise to have it in the
entry-title (ie, using the character
What character?
the quotation-mark charater, which
should be fixed :)
On 9/22/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Stephen Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The first http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php is my site, I will
look into making your requested tweak to the script :)
No charge ;-)
(Seriously
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Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On 9/22/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Stephen Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The first http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php is my site, I will
look into making your
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The first http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php is my site, I will
look into making your requested tweak to the script :)
should be fixed :)
Thank you. Viewing the feed for:
For the first item, it didn't help that your page was not quite valid
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.westmidlandbirdclub.com%2Fnew.htm,
however I think I have fixed it now anyway and got around that :)
The url must have the xn_auth=no in it (ning hosting), but I have
removed
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew
Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
[on why the use of rel=bookmark links in :
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/newATOM.htm
might be incorrect)
I'd be grateful for a consensus, or at least others' thoughts, on this,
please, before I mark-up the rest
Honestly, exactly right. hAtom works for what you're doing; don't get
over caught up in the meaning of bookmark or whatever. If could
potentially create an RSS/Atom feed for the page, you'll be able to
put hAtom markup on it.
Regards, etc...
David
On 9/22/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For hatom converters, see Chris Casciano's work:
http://placenamehere.com/mf/
Chris
On 9/22/06, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All the '@' stuff is derived elements that are for ... other purposes ...
I believe there's someone doing hAtom - feed converters; I've avoided
that (even
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
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How does this look:
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/newATOM.htm
I've only marked up the first two entries for 21 September.
I've now done the lot, and moved the results to:
rel=bookmark translates to the link in RSS... so whatever you want
in link, use rel=bookmark on
On 9/22/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
[on why the use of rel=bookmark links in :
The first http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php is my site, I will
look into making your requested tweak to the script :)
On 9/22/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Try:
http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php
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Stephen Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The first http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php is my site, I will
look into making your requested tweak to the script :)
No charge ;-)
(Seriously - thank you. Please let me/ us know when it's done.)
--
Andy Mabbett
Many websites have a What's New page. Here's one I maintain:
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/new.htm
I don't have the resources to provide that data as an RSS feed (I fudge
it, and offer an RSS feed of a less-frequently-updated mailing list);
yet I'm irritated to find similar page on
Jeez, yes, I think this would be an ideal application for hAtom [1].
Marking up entries like an RSS feed, mutter mutter mutter...
Regards, etc...
David
[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom
On 9/21/06, Matthew Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
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Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Would there be any mileage in a microformat for marking-up each entry,
so that they could be extracted by user-agents, and so that third-
party utilities could compile RSS
Just specifiy an author for the page in an address block and you're set.
Regards, etc...
On 9/21/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Would there be any mileage in a
On Sep 21, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Take a look at the hAtom draft. This should fit your needs.
Thank you, but if you look at:
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/new.htm
... hAtom seems to be overkill.
There's no author on each entry, which is a requirement for hAtom -
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David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Just specifiy an author for the page in an address block and you're set.
Thank you (to all who've helped).
How does this look:
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/newATOM.htm
I've only marked up the first two entries
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew
Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/new.htm
You could mark this up as a table as well, but that seems to be
overkill.
It already is - and that suits me well.
(Other points noted, thanks.)
--
Andy Mabbett
Fixed -- I've been iterating the code quite a bit. How does it look now ?
http://tinyurl.com/ntorg
On 9/21/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Just specifiy an author for the page in an address block and you're set.
On Sep 21, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
How does this look:
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/newATOM.htm
...
Am I right to use rel=bookmark for the pages which are linked to by
the entries?
My understanding is that the permalink (rel=bookmark) should be a
stable URI for the
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Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/newATOM.htm
The AUMP http://tools.blogmatrix.com/extract/ gives Python errors,
which, I presume are to do with it, rather than my mark-up. If not, then
they're not very user
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew
Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Sep 21, 2006, at 4:46 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
How does this look:
http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/newATOM.htm
...
Am I right to use rel=bookmark for the pages which are linked to by
the entries?
My
On Sep 21, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
The atom:link element defines a reference from an entry or
feed to a Web resource. This specification assigns no meaning to
the content (if any) of this element.
The XMDP profile in the hAtom draft [1] goes into more detail,
defining the
Matthew Levine mumbled the following on 22/09/2006 00:09:
[What's new page]
Take a look at the hAtom draft. This should fit your needs.
If a What's New / Updates / changelog page can be marked up successfully
with hAtom, can these examples be added to the Wiki please? I (for one)
don't
Try:
http://xoxotools.ning.com/hatom2rss.php (has a slight problem with
your page because you have tags in your title, which isn't allowed in
RSS... try putting BOTH entry-title AND entry-content on the data :)
)
or
http://tools.microformatic.com/help/xhtml/hatom/ (no idea how it'll
work,
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