[Mifnet 🛰 73489] Re: What????!!!!

Doug, I often see helicopters that pass below me when flying into DCA, and the controller has not given me a warning. It's about the same as passing other a/c in at cruise altitude. Sometimes you get a traffic advisory, sometimes you don't. The collision at DCA is like so many other a/c acci

[Mifnet 🛰 73488] Re: Apropos of our pricing conversation

I tried the VPN technique with Air New Zealand and it didn't work. I think their network is so small that anyone flying LAX-AKL-LAX will be assumed to be in the US. Eric > On 08/01/2025 1:51 PM EDT Kathryn Creedy via Mifnet > wrote: > > > Check out what happened when the author used his

[Mifnet 🛰 73487] Re: What????!!!!

"No, the real culprit is congress ignoring FAA's needs." I certainly agree with the above, but I also think the leadership in that Army helicopter unit needs a great deal of scrutiny. Eric > On 08/01/2025 8:11 AM EDT Kathryn Creedy via Mifnet > wrote: > > > Controllers told investigato

[Mifnet 🛰 73486] Re: 757 @ DL question

Then when I joined P&W, I learned all about his disgust for our parts costs for those JT8s that powered all those beautiful Mad Dogs. You mean those motors that ate a few acres of Connecticut forest, after which they had just enough power to land at BDL? Eric > On 07/31/2025 2:32 PM EDT F. S

[Mifnet 🛰 73485] Re: What????!!!!

Can’t wait. Randy On Aug 1, 2025, at 2:53 PM, Tom Ronell via Mifnet wrote:  🤦🏼‍♂️ Here we go again, folks Randy, you will hear about it incessantly on Mifnet. TR From: randy essell via Mifnet To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com CC: RWM ; via Mifnet randy

[Mifnet 🛰 73484] Re: What????!!!!

   🤦🏼‍♂️ Here we go again, folks Randy, you will hear about it incessantly on Mifnet. TR *From: *randy essell via Mifnet *To: *mifnet@lists.mifnet.com *CC: *RWM ; via Mifnet randy essell ; randy essell *Date: *Aug 1, 2025 22:33:01 *Subject: *[Mi

[Mifnet 🛰 73483] Re: What????!!!!

Please elaborate on the on-the-shelf alternatives. I was never presented an alternative that maximized reliability and margin. But I’ve been out of the game a few years. I certainly wouldn’t refuse to use it if it was workable. My sense is airlines have tested these models and didn’t like th

[Mifnet 🛰 73482] Re: What????!!!!

Hello Doug,Since the controller was on two frequencies, all aircraft would hear his transmissions, but the helicopter crew would not hear the airplane’s and vice-versa. Having said that, there were long pauses between the helicopter and the controller. From the NTSB briefing, the first transmission

[Mifnet 🛰 73481] Re: What????!!!!

Jim, You wrote, “Plus since one controller was working both aircraft, the American pilot probably heard that there was a helicopter in the vicinity.” I believe this is incorrect. Each aircraft was using different frequencies to communicate with the DCA controller. I cannot understand why the con

[Mifnet 🛰 73480] Apropos of our pricing conversation

Check out what happened when the author used his VPN to price an airline ticket. https://theconversation.com/what-is-personalized-pricing-and-how-do-i-avoid-it-262195 Cheers -- Kathryn -- Kathryn Creedy PHONE # 321 405 4395 US-Eastern Time Zone *Twitter*: @kcreedy *Visit me on LinkedIn*

[Mifnet 🛰 73479] Re: What????!!!!

In general controllers work the aircraft given them, the number is a challenge to their skill. Each considers him/herself the best in the business (which might be since I've been retired for a while). A EURONTROL fellow told me one time, that they brought some US controllers over one time to chall

[Mifnet 🛰 73478] Re: What????!!!!

Beyond safety, an issue and point overload arises, illustrating a worst case, when 50 or 55 are scheduled -- /or see FMS projected ETAs, considering day-of-flight enroute time variation/ -- in the 14:59 'half hour' and another 50 or 55 are scheduled  -- /or see FMS projected ETAs, considering d

[Mifnet 🛰 73477] Re: What????!!!!

Surely ATC safety is the number one priority when setting the standards. Using 55/hour as the example, it must have been engineered by a group at FAA as the maximum “safe” number. Right? Randy On Aug 1, 2025, at 10:09 AM, Kathryn Creedy wrote:  After I responded I realized the entire situ

[Mifnet 🛰 73476] Re: What????!!!!

After I responded I realized the entire situation begged the question -- didn't anyone even ask the impact on the safety of ATC? Is that even a question that is asked at all no matter the facility? Cheers -- Kathryn On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 11:03 AM randy essell wrote: > Agree 100% on checks and

[Mifnet 🛰 73475] Re: What????!!!!

Agree 100% on checks and balances. As an airline I am going to schedule to the max. If the max is 55 arrivals an hour, that’s what I’ll strive for. If the FAA/ATC wants to knock that down to 50, I’ll question, but I’ll schedule to 50. Nobody, including the airlines, wants an unsafe operating en

[Mifnet 🛰 73474] Re: What????!!!!

I wasn't talking about ATC as capitalism. And I totally agree that "Actually offering air traffic control on a fee for service basis would likely be much *better* than relying on congressional appropriations to invest in proper technology to support safe and efficient transportation." Randy, yes,

[Mifnet 🛰 73473] Re: What????!!!!

Kathryn, In the U.S., air traffic control is a government-provided function. It is literally not capitalism. Actually offering air traffic control on a fee for service basis would likely be much better than relying on congressional appropriations to invest in proper technology to supp

[Mifnet 🛰 73472] Re: What????!!!!

Time to weigh in, and I’ll keep it short. I used to run the AA schedule. If the assertion is we maximize utilization of aircraft, crews, gates, and airspace to achieve maximum revenue and profit, you are correct. As long as we meet and don’t exceed any operating parameters, including slot con

[Mifnet 🛰 73471] OEM numbers through July 2025

This might be of some interest to those of you who follow the OEMs. There's neat data visual to play with. https://airinsight.com/july-2025-aircraft-production-and-delivery-summary/ Regards, Addison Schonland www.airinsight.aero (858) 536-9900 (858) 682-4931 - Whats

[Mifnet 🛰 73470] new study on NASA Moon program

This week Reason Foundation released study calling for the termination of NASA's current Artemis program and replacing it with a replacement based on competitive public-private partnerships like those used for transporting people and cargo to the International Space Station. The news release is the

[Mifnet 🛰 73469] Re: What????!!!!

I know, tom. On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 8:50 AM Tom Ronell via Mifnet < mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: > > The comment was not aimed at you, Kathryn. It was aimed at it coming up as > part of a crash investigation and is considered newsworthy that > > "The approach was based on the carrier’s financi

[Mifnet 🛰 73468] Re: What????!!!!

The comment was not aimed at you, Kathryn. It was aimed at it coming up as part of a crash investigation and is considered newsworthy that >>> "The approach was based on the carrier’s financial incentives." *From: *Kathryn Creedy via Mifnet *To: *Doug Ch

[Mifnet 🛰 73467] Re: What????!!!!

Tom, I'm not surprised but we have our priorities upside down and I'm sick of it. Yes, that's why I said Pollyanna here. Doug, yes very tough day. But I'm not so sure that what failed wasn't ATC but the system of how we run it. Another example of deviant capitalism. Glad to see the airline cited as

[Mifnet 🛰 73466] Re: What????!!!!

Not to take away from anything Kathryn wrote - clearly the pressure to move as much traffic as possible into and out of DCA is a highly-charged and consequential issue and safety concern. Hence why the phrase from controllers - "Make It Work" - was such a flashpoint and focus of discussion in the h

[Mifnet 🛰 73465] Irregular Ops Reminder

[Image] -- Revised: 20250507 You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small con

[Mifnet 🛰 73464] Re: What????!!!!

"The approach was based on the carrier’s financial incentives, one of the managers said." Whoever is surprised by this, raise your hand. TR *From: *Kathryn Creedy via Mifnet *To: *mifnet@lists.mifnet.com *CC: *Kathryn Creedy *Date: *Aug 1, 2025 15:12

[Mifnet 🛰 73463] What????!!!!

Controllers told investigators that they didn’t feel outside pressure to keep up with the pace, but FAA managers described how American Airlines — the biggest operator at the airport — designed a compressed schedule that effectively increased traffic. The approach was based on the carrier’s financi

[Mifnet 🛰 73462] Re: Fw: Pilot with 22 years of experience reveals place he would NEVER go near

For what it is worth, the crash into Mt. Erebus was a sightseeing flight which was not intended to land; just overflight to look and return. Those flights were abandoned, at that time, but transport of people and supplies to and from Antarctica and South Pole has continued. ---

[Mifnet 🛰 73461] Re: Fw: Pilot with 22 years of experience reveals place he would NEVER go near

There is scheduled service from Punta Arenas, Chile using BAe 146 aircraft.All the best,Amar✈️ Sent from a mobile device, please excuse typos ✈️On Aug 1, 2025, at 06:29, Tom Ronell via Mifnet wrote: There are also flights from Chile. From: Tom Ronell via

[Mifnet 🛰 73460] Re: Fw: Pilot with 22 years of experience reveals place he would NEVER go near

There are also flights from Chile. *From: *Tom Ronell via Mifnet *To: *Kathryn Creedy via Mifnet *CC: *Tom Ronell *Date: *Aug 1, 2025 14:27:34 *Subject: *[Mifnet 🛰 73459] Re: Fw: Pilot with 22 years of experience reveals place he would NEVER go near

[Mifnet 🛰 73459] Re: Fw: Pilot with 22 years of experience reveals place he would NEVER go near

There are commercial flights and charter flights year-round, including commercial widebodies such as A340. You can catch a Volga-Dnepr IL-76 from CapeTown to South Pole a couple of times per week. *From: *Kathryn Creedy via Mifnet *To: *mifnet@lists.mi

[Mifnet 🛰 73458] Re: Fw: Pilot with 22 years of experience reveals place he would NEVER go near

I think they stopped commercial flight after the crash into the mountain years ago. Kathryn On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 2:04 AM srbrown via Mifnet wrote: > Are there any "commercial flights" to Antarctica? I thought all flights > were by special permit only. > > Simon > > Original message --