[Mimedefang] Difference between filter_helo and filter_relay

2006-04-21 Thread Mark van Proctor
Hi, Excuse my ignorance (I'm new to this...), but what is the difference between filter_helo and filter_relay? My assumption is that helo is used when a client directly logs in through SMTP to send an email (generally a local user, so most likely going to be OUTBOUND or INTERNAL emails) whereas

Re: [Mimedefang] Difference between filter_helo and filter_relay

2006-04-21 Thread Jan Pieter Cornet
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:57:38PM +0800, Mark van Proctor wrote: Excuse my ignorance (I'm new to this...), but what is the difference between filter_helo and filter_relay? My assumption is that helo is used when a client directly logs in through SMTP to send an email (generally a local

Re: [Mimedefang] Difference between filter_helo and filter_relay

2006-04-21 Thread John Rudd
On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:57 PM, Mark van Proctor wrote: Hi, Excuse my ignorance (I'm new to this...), but what is the difference between filter_helo and filter_relay? My assumption is that helo is used when a client directly logs in through SMTP to send an email (generally a local user, so

Re: [Mimedefang] Greylist-busting ratware?

2006-04-21 Thread nathan r. hruby
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, John Rudd wrote: On Apr 20, 2006, at 16:34, nathan r. hruby wrote: - ratware infected boxen on campus use campus relays which relay by IP. They spew, we queue. Badness for everyone. We no longer have our student-residential IP block in our relay domain for this

Re: [Mimedefang] Image blocking idea

2006-04-21 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Thursday, April 20, 2006 21:12 -0500 Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logs show that it is hit by dictionary attacks fairly often with the interesting part being that the messages are being sent by many different machines at the same time but rate limited somehow so there are

Re: [Mimedefang] Greylist-busting ratware?

2006-04-21 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Friday, April 21, 2006 9:30 -0400 nathan r. hruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Inbound ratware using SMTP AUTH to authenticate as a real user Hm. We haven't seen this at all yet. That's not a good sign. Yeah. We were *thrilled* to see this happening. *Thrilled* I tell you.

RE: AW: [Mimedefang] Image validator/OCR SA plugin

2006-04-21 Thread Gary Funck
-Original Message- From: Martin Blapp Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:00 AM Spamassassin version is 3.1.0, looks like I'll have to upgrade to 3.1.1 to get this to work? Seems so, yes. I'll correct the manual. Has this package/plugin been updated yet with the various fixes

RE: [Mimedefang] Greylist-busting ratware?

2006-04-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
John Rudd wrote: On Apr 20, 2006, at 16:34, nathan r. hruby wrote: - Inbound ratware using SMTP AUTH to authenticate as a real user Hm. We haven't seen this at all yet. That's not a good sign. I see this as a good thing. You can tie the spam back to a particular user. They change their

RE: [Mimedefang] Greylist-busting ratware?

2006-04-21 Thread WBrown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/21/2006 02:05:52 PM: I see this as a good thing. You can tie the spam back to a particular user. They change their password, and the ratware is blocked. Are the credentials really stolen, or is the ratware actually using the credentials that belong on the

RE: [Mimedefang] Greylist-busting ratware?

2006-04-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
WBrown wrote: Are the credentials really stolen, or is the ratware actually using the credentials that belong on the zombied computer. I would bet the later. User changes password without cleaning off the infection and goes right back to sending spam. ... in which case you can infer that

Re: [Mimedefang] Greylist-busting ratware?

2006-04-21 Thread Ben Kamen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... in which case you can infer that they're infected, and the problem has gone from a technical one to a business one. Do you cut off the customer's access, fix their infection, send them a warning note... ? I would think it depends on who you are... an ISP, a

Re: [Mimedefang] Image blocking idea

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Whittney
Maybe another possibility is to limit what accounts get images.. I've been thinking about this, in relation to clients wanting their email address on their webpages (uurrgghh). If there is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] or abuse@ postmaster@ webmaster@ (etc...), would it be worth it to deny connections,

Re: [Mimedefang] Image blocking idea

2006-04-21 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi, On a different note concerning images, what about an email filter logging the possibility of the images containing hidden data (i.e. Steganography test). I already log possible text (I count alphanummeric chars in the ocr output) +header SPAMPIC_ALPHA_1 OCR-Output =~

Re: [Mimedefang] Image blocking idea

2006-04-21 Thread Rob MacGregor
On 4/21/06, Paul Whittney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe another possibility is to limit what accounts get images.. I've been thinking about this, in relation to clients wanting their email address on their webpages (uurrgghh). If there is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] or abuse@ postmaster@ webmaster@

[Mimedefang] Re: Difference between filter_helo and filter_relay

2006-04-21 Thread Mark van Proctor
Thanks, this makes perfect sense now! So basically $RelayAddr is who they really are and $Helo is who they *say* they are... Thanks! BTW - I would class a locally originating email destined for a local user as INTERNAL, a locally originating email destined for a remote email address as

Re: [Mimedefang] Image blocking idea

2006-04-21 Thread David F. Skoll
Martin Blapp wrote: I already log possible text (I count alphanummeric chars in the ocr output) I think it would be interesting to add a new text/plain part to the e-mail consisting of the OCR'd text, and feed that into Bayes. Even if OCR gets some words wrong, I bet the same mis-spelled