Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Blocking Port 25

2007-01-30 Thread WBrown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/29/2007 05:53:01 PM: I'm not even that sure it would help the spam problem. The majority of the spam I receive these days come via ISP mail servers or open relays. This may of course simply mean that I'm not receiving a normal pattern of spam... I don't think

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Blocking Port 25

2007-01-30 Thread Ben Kamen
Rob MacGregor wrote: On 1/29/07, Ben Kamen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, I meant to control port 25 egress from nets like Cable/DSL/Dialup users... Me, personally, I'd hate it. I can deliver mail faster and more reliably (from past experience) than my ISP. When that's not an option I

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Blocking Port 25

2007-01-30 Thread David F. Skoll
Ben Kamen wrote: Ok, so port:25 blocking still seems to be a bad idea for the mostpart because ISP's (in general) still do not have their act together. (and looking at how they spend their money probably never will.) Actually, I think blocking port 25 by default is an excellent idea

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Blocking Port 25

2007-01-30 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:39 AM -0500 David F. Skoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I think blocking port 25 by default is an excellent idea providing you unblock it if people ask for that. Since the vast majority of computer users never bother to change defaults, blocking port 25

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Blocking Port 25

2007-01-30 Thread John Rudd
Kenneth Porter wrote: On Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:39 AM -0500 David F. Skoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I think blocking port 25 by default is an excellent idea providing you unblock it if people ask for that. Since the vast majority of computer users never bother to change

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Blocking Port 25

2007-01-30 Thread Ben Kamen
John Rudd wrote: For defaults, don't forget IMAP, outbound ssh, outbound passive ftp, and the other simple ones. But, yeah... agree in principle. Block all but the REALLY common/basics, provide a web interface (accessible only from client networks, not from the outside world) for

[Mimedefang] Re: Spam filtered twice

2007-01-30 Thread Yizhar Hurwitz
HI. Some important information is still missing, so I will try to complete the picture by reading between the lines. Please correct me if I get anything wrong... I have a Linux box which is used as a web server and mail server. It is directly on the web and it serves roughly 60 different

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Blocking Port 25

2007-01-30 Thread Jan-Pieter Cornet
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:47:26AM -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote: Actually, I think blocking port 25 by default is an excellent idea providing you unblock it if people ask for that. Since the vast majority of computer users never bother to change defaults, blocking port 25 by default will

Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-30 Thread Jan-Pieter Cornet
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 02:58:53PM -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: Philip Prindeville wrote: Simply saying, One of your customers tried to spam me, but I rejected it... here are the logs isn't enough. They insist that I give them a copy of the message I think that's perfectly reasonable.

[Mimedefang] help a journalist: What do you wish the CIO understood about fighting spam? (fwd)

2007-01-30 Thread Kenneth Porter
I didn't see this cross the MIMEDefang list so I'm forwarding it from the Dovecot list: Forwarded Message Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:14 PM -0700 From: Esther Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Dovecot] help a journalist: What do you wish

contacts.abuse.net (was Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam)

2007-01-30 Thread David F. Skoll
Jan-Pieter Cornet wrote: If you have a domain, like, example.com, to contact in abuse cases (eg as learned from reverse DNS), just do a DNS query for example.com.contacts.abuse.net: TXT records are contact addresses, A records list the number of contacts, and HINFO tells you if the contact