Re: SuperSafe=PostMilter (was Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner)

2007-01-17 Thread Ron Pool
Ray Parish wrote: So in the mc file I put define(`confSUPERSAFE', `PostMilter')dnl Instead of that, add to sendmail.mc: define(`confSAFE_QUEUE',`PostMilter')dnl which should translate to this in sendmail.cf: O SuperSafe=PostMilter -- Ron -- Ron Pool

Re: SuperSafe=PostMilter (was Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner)

2007-01-17 Thread Jan-Pieter Cornet
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 09:48:38AM -0500, Ray Parish wrote: > So in the mc file I put > > define(`confSUPERSAFE', `PostMilter')dnl > > However when I create the cf file, this gets translated to SuperSafe=True The right spelling is: define(`confSAFE_QUEUE', `PostMilter') See the README file in

Re: SuperSafe=PostMilter (was Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner)

2007-01-17 Thread David F. Skoll
Ray Parish wrote: > So in the mc file I put > define(`confSUPERSAFE', `PostMilter')dnl That's what you'd think. However, the mavens who make Sendmail demand: define(`confSAFE_QUEUE', `PostMilter')dnl Go figure. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is

RE: SuperSafe=PostMilter (was Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner)

2007-01-17 Thread Ray Parish
D] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David F. Skoll Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:10 AM To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: SuperSafe=PostMilter (was Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner) Josh Kelley wrote: > Sorry for going OT, but this is the first I&#

SuperSafe=PostMilter (was Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner)

2007-01-17 Thread David F. Skoll
Josh Kelley wrote: > Sorry for going OT, but this is the first I'd heard of the PostMilter > option. Is there any reason not to enable that with MIMEDefang? Nope. You should always set SuperSafe=PostMilter if you're using a milter. Regards, David. _

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-17 Thread Josh Kelley
On 1/16/07, David F. Skoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) Disk I/O: MIMEDefang will use less disk I/O than Mailscanner because you're not queueing every mail message twice. In fact, if you have a modern version of Sendmail with SuperSafe set to PostMilter and MIMEDefang rejects or tempfails a me

RE: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread Tim Boyer
> > > I have been using mimedefang for a couple of years now and just today > > ran across the mailscanner program. On first glance it appears that the > > 2 do about the same thing. Have some of the experts here tried both of > > these and have a comparison as to how they differ? Is it worth my wh

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread Kenneth Irving
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, John Rudd wrote: > Kenneth Irving wrote: > > > > > Although I liked MailScanner, I would use it only in equipments with low > > email traffic. Maybe in your equipment, with that email volume, > > it'll work OK. > > > > My experience is exactly the opposite. In an environment

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread David F. Skoll
Kees Theunissen wrote: > I'm not sure that this [scanning for viruses first] is cheaper. It depends on what you do with the mail. If you discard or reject spam or spam scoring above a threshold, then it's almost certainly cheaper to spam-scan first. If you're only tagging spam but throwing away

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread Kees Theunissen
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, John Rudd wrote: > 3) MIMEDefang lets you specify the order of checks. With MailScanner, you > HAVE to do SpamAssassin first, and Virus Scanning last. That means you're > running the very CPU expensive SpamAssassin checks on viruses. With > MIMEDefang you can set the order jus

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread John Rudd
David F. Skoll wrote: John Rudd wrote: Btw: thank you for not squelching this topic. When I tried to have a similar discussion on the MailScanner list, about a year ago, the maintainer pretty much banned the topic from discussion (even though I was, at the time, advocating the mixed approac

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread David F. Skoll
John Rudd wrote: >> 1) Disk I/O: MIMEDefang will use less disk I/O than Mailscanner >> because you're not queueing every mail message twice. In fact, if >> you have a modern version of Sendmail with SuperSafe set to >> PostMilter and MIMEDefang rejects or tempfails a message, that >> queue file w

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread John Rudd
David F. Skoll wrote: John Rudd wrote: [...] This actually far outweighs the IO bottleneck of clamd's socket. Hardly any data flows over clamd's socket. MIMEDefang just sends the command: SCAN /path/to/filename and clamd reads the file or files to scan itself. General comments: 1

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread David F. Skoll
John Rudd wrote: > [...] This actually far outweighs the IO bottleneck of clamd's > socket. Hardly any data flows over clamd's socket. MIMEDefang just sends the command: SCAN /path/to/filename and clamd reads the file or files to scan itself. General comments: 1) Disk I/O: MIMEDefan

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread John Rudd
Kenneth Irving wrote: I've found Sendmail+MIMEDefang+clamd+spamd a very efficient combination. Tried Postfix+MailScanner+clamscan in another computer and it's very slow, because Mailscanner doesn't work as a deamon, and doesn't use Clam as a deamon either, but relies on running clamscan for every

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread John Rudd
Kenneth Irving wrote: Although I liked MailScanner, I would use it only in equipments with low email traffic. Maybe in your equipment, with that email volume, it'll work OK. My experience is exactly the opposite. In an environment with .25M to 1M emails per day, MailScanner did just fine o

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread John Rudd
Mike Campbell wrote: I have been using mimedefang for a couple of years now and just today ran across the mailscanner program. On first glance it appears that the 2 do about the same thing. Have some of the experts here tried both of these and have a comparison as to how they differ? Is it wort

Re: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread Kenneth Irving
I've found Sendmail+MIMEDefang+clamd+spamd a very efficient combination. Tried Postfix+MailScanner+clamscan in another computer and it's very slow, because Mailscanner doesn't work as a deamon, and doesn't use Clam as a deamon either, but relies on running clamscan for every email. The overall res

RE: [Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread Cormack, Ken
> I have been using mimedefang for a couple of years now and just today > ran across the mailscanner program. On first glance it appears that the > 2 do about the same thing. Have some of the experts here tried both of > these and have a comparison as to how they differ? Is it worth my while >

[Mimedefang] compare mimedefang to mailscanner

2007-01-16 Thread Mike Campbell
I have been using mimedefang for a couple of years now and just today ran across the mailscanner program. On first glance it appears that the 2 do about the same thing. Have some of the experts here tried both of these and have a comparison as to how they differ? Is it worth my while to spend t