Re: upl(4) interface not working

2006-03-01 Thread Lars Weste
Hi all, >On Wednesday 01 March 2006 21:09, Lars Weste wrote: >> I configured it on the first machine: >> ifconfig upl0 inet 10.200.200.1 10.200.200.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 up > >Wrong netmask. point-to-point links usually use 255.255.255.252 (a /30). I tried with different netmasks, /30, /31,

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Thursday, March 2, "Rod.. Whitworth" wrote: > On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:16:59 -0600, Graham Toal wrote: > > > >If your DNS is on the same net as the mailer, its down too. Senders > >soon get no result at all when they look you up, with the result that > >mail *bounces* (unknown address) rather tha

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:16:59 -0600, Graham Toal wrote: >Although I know where David is coming from with this slightly >contentious comment, he's wrong. The argument is that most >senders will do their own back-off, and the hassle of setting >up a *good* backup MX server is so high that the benefi

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread David Terrell
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:16:59PM -0600, Graham Toal wrote: > Personally I do believe in Backup MX, as long as it does proper > relay checking. It's nice if it also does spam checking, but > not critical because your primary MX will still do that. However > if you do spam checking *and rejection

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Graham Toal
Although I know where David is coming from with this slightly contentious comment, he's wrong. The argument is that most senders will do their own back-off, and the hassle of setting up a *good* backup MX server is so high that the benefit scarcely justifies it. However where he is wrong is not i

Re: WebDAV locking trouble (yes, DavLockDB is chroot relative)

2006-03-01 Thread Nick Forrette
> What version of Apache? > The standard pached variant of 1.3.29 that is included with 3.8-stable.

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Lars Hansson
On Thursday 02 March 2006 10:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > me thinks this is spreading FUD. define "modern mail infrastructure". > perhaps the origin of the FUD is the M$ visual studio .net overexposure? No, it's not FUD. The large majorityt domains dont need backup MX's. Mail wont bounce just b

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread dick
>> Backup MX is a relic and a legacy. It breaks almost all spam filters. >> Modern mail infrastructure doesn't need it, except in rare cases. me thinks this is spreading FUD. define "modern mail infrastructure". perhaps the origin of the FUD is the M$ visual studio .net overexposure?

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:49:44 -0800, Claus Assmann wrote: >On Wed, Mar 01, 2006, Chris wrote: > >> I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming mail when my >> primary mail server goes down. I understand how to do this from a DNS >> standpoint, but what I don't know is what should be in my

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006, Chris wrote: > I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming mail when my > primary mail server goes down. I understand how to do this from a DNS > standpoint, but what I don't know is what should be in my > sendmail.mc/sendmail.cf file for this. > Is there anything

Re: upl(4) interface not working

2006-03-01 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 21:09, Lars Weste wrote: > I configured it on the first machine: > ifconfig upl0 inet 10.200.200.1 10.200.200.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 up Wrong netmask. point-to-point links usually use 255.255.255.252 (a /30). --- Lars Hansson

Re: make build error on 3.9 (-current) i386

2006-03-01 Thread Nick Holland
Reza Muhammad wrote: Hi guys, I was just updating my source tree through cvsup, and I've been following -current for a while. There hadn't been any problems before. But today, make build returned errors. ... Can anyone help me with it? What seems to be missing from your process is the wo

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Bryan Irvine
> Backup MX is a relic and a legacy. It breaks almost all spam filters. > Modern mail infrastructure doesn't need it, except in rare cases. why so? I use one here at work with great success. I use Postfix so I'm no use to the OP. I don't have any problems with double bounces, and my spam tools

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, marrandy wrote: > On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote: > > On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote: > > > Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz. > > > > ^^^ > > Sure? > > > Or w

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, marrandy wrote: > On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote: > > On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote: > > > Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz. > > > > ^^^ > > Sure? > > > That

Re: acpi battery state

2006-03-01 Thread Marco Peereboom
This is bad advice at the moment. ACPI has some memory leaks and eventually will deplete device buffer memory. It is under heavy development and nowhere near consumable quality. Don't run with ACPI unless you are writing me some diffs. Rogier Krieger wrote: On 3/1/06, Steffen Wendzel <[EMAI

Realtors, Our Servers Crashed - Promo Extended

2006-03-01 Thread Mr. Real Estate
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Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Chris
Really? So when the box goes down, just let the mail bounce? How would it break spamassassin (which is what I use)? David Terrell wrote: >On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:19:18PM -0500, Chris wrote: > > >>Hello. Basic sendmail question. >> >>I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-03-01 19:11:54 -0500, marrandy wrote: > http://www.epiacenter.com/pictures/news/2006/epia_cn.jpg > > Now that is a heatsink. Yes. :-) It would be nice if that beast hat 3 NICs and supported PoE... Best Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de

Re: BOINC distributed computing project

2006-03-01 Thread Marcos Latas
On 01/03/06, Bryan Brake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've downloaded the BOINC client for windows and > am running it with no issues, I was wondering if > anyone has tried using the OpenBSD version. It > can be found here... > > http://www.lb.shuttle.de/apastron/boincDown.shtml#opbsd > > Does any

Re: Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread David Terrell
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:19:18PM -0500, Chris wrote: > Hello. Basic sendmail question. > > I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming mail when my > primary mail server goes down. I understand how to do this from a DNS > standpoint, but what I don't know is what should be in my > se

Avis Important et personnel

2006-03-01 Thread Desjardins
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Backup MX server

2006-03-01 Thread Chris
Hello. Basic sendmail question. I want to set up a backup mx server to field incoming mail when my primary mail server goes down. I understand how to do this from a DNS standpoint, but what I don't know is what should be in my sendmail.mc/sendmail.cf file for this. Is there anything special I n

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 18:30, you wrote: > Look at page 3. Also note the mobo comes with fan pins labelled "cpu > fan". Perhaps with a large enough, or well enough desinged heat sink, or > if the cpu's are clocked down far enough, the fan isn't necessary. Just read the whole article...hmm..

BOINC distributed computing project

2006-03-01 Thread Bryan Brake
I've downloaded the BOINC client for windows and am running it with no issues, I was wondering if anyone has tried using the OpenBSD version. It can be found here... http://www.lb.shuttle.de/apastron/boincDown.shtml#opbsd Does anyone do this? I am sure there is, I just wanted to find out h

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-03-01 18:07:19 -0500, marrandy wrote: > On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:33, Martin Schrvder wrote: > > http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=82 > > > > has a review with pictures (note the fan) and benchmarks. > > I don't see one. Just a large black clip-on heat

Re: acpi battery state

2006-03-01 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 3/1/06, Steffen Wendzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I try to find out how many energy is left on my battery. I run > OpenBSD 3.8. My notebook does not support APM but ACPI In that case, you should probably give -current snapshots a spin. There has been quite a bit of work on ACPI since 3.8. Ap

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:33, Martin Schrvder wrote: > http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=82 > > has a review with pictures (note the fan) and benchmarks. I don't see one. Just a large black clip-on heatsink. Fans have a power connector and I don't see one go

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote: > On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote: > > Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz. > > ^^^ > Sure? Or were you talking about the fanless part. "With power

sendmail and Undeliverables

2006-03-01 Thread Joel Gudknecht
I've recently setup an access list with the following: To:mydomain.com REJECT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK etcetera, which has really helped in reducing the amount of DSN reports I receive. (Thanks to Claus A_mann for the suggestion) I'm sti

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 16:28, Martin Schrvder wrote: > On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote: > > Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz. > > ^^^ > Sure? That's what it says "The VT310-DP supports the x86 archi

acpi battery state

2006-03-01 Thread Steffen Wendzel
Hi, I try to find out how many energy is left on my battery. I run OpenBSD 3.8. My notebook does not support APM but ACPI and I compiled ACPI support in my kernel. I run acpid and acpidump displays a lot of output I don't understand ;-) I read that i can get my battery values via sysctl hw.senso

LinuxForum 2006, Mar 3 - 4, 2006, Copenhagen

2006-03-01 Thread Wim Vandeputte
Hey, just a heads up that Henning and I will be in Copenhagen on Friday and Saturday, Linux Forum is a nice event and defenitly worth a visit. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= https://kd85.com/notforsa

Re: off topic but possibly interesting to someone...

2006-03-01 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cpu0: VIA Samuel 2 ("CentaurHauls" 686-class) 533 MHz > cpu0: FPU,DE,TSC,MSR,MTRR,PGE,MMX > real mem = 158900224 (155176K) > avail mem = 138125312 (134888K) > using 1965 buffers containing 8048640 bytes (7860K) of memory > rl0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=82 has a review with pictures (note the fan) and benchmarks. Best Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-03-01 15:33:21 -0500, marrandy wrote: > Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz. ^^^ Sure? Onboard I/O Connectors 1 4-pin CPU fan and 2 3-pin chassis fan http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/vt_310

off topic but possibly interesting to someone...

2006-03-01 Thread poncenby smythe
List, File transfer between my iBook G4 and OpenBSD box (3.8 GENERIC#138 i386) over SSH seems really slow. I have made sure the iBook en0 interface is 100baseTX full-duplex and the same with the rl0 interface on the OpenBSD box. When transferring files with scp or rsync (over ssh) top reports

Re: VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 15:33, you wrote: > Has anyone tried VIA Eden fanless at 1GHz yet or the new Eden-N or NL (Luke > series) yet ? If so, how did they perform. > > Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz. > > http://www.crn.com/sections/testcenter/whitebox/whitebox.jhtml?articleId=17 >

VIA fanless 1GHz

2006-03-01 Thread marrandy
Has anyone tried VIA Eden fanless at 1GHz yet or the new Eden-N or NL (Luke series) yet ? If so, how did they perform. Also I have found a dual, eden fanless 1GHz. http://www.crn.com/sections/testcenter/whitebox/whitebox.jhtml?articleId=173402172

Problems with PF and ftp-proxy with 2 links

2006-03-01 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Hi folks, I'm having a bad time doing a setup that is a little complex. I do have 2 ADSL links, both working. And i have and DMZ and a LAN. The setup is this: LAN net: 10.0.0.0/24 DMZ net: 10.1.1.0/24 LINK#1 NET: 192.168.200.0/24 LINK#1 IP: 192.168.200.1 LINK#1 GATEWAY: 192.168.200.254 LIN

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-03-01 Thread Edd Barrett
> make search key= > is more or less deprecated... What is the preffered make target now? Regards Edd

Re: Squid not starting on boot with ADSL

2006-03-01 Thread Dj Arabela
i guess rc.local line is wrong because squid exec file is in /usr/local/sbin/squid not in /usr/local/squid/sbin/squid (as you wrote ). i mean you tell rc. to search for a file from one location and execute the file from another location how did you install squid? from packages or from source (

Re: mp3 via printer port

2006-03-01 Thread Luiz Otávio Souza
On 2/28/06, David Terrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once I was watching photos from OpenBSD hackaton and saw there that > people > listened mp3's by sending them to the lpt port. How is it possible to > do? > Can somebody describe it in details. Not via the printer port, but via lpd: http:

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-03-01 Thread Greg Thomas
On 2/28/06, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > X isn't in packages, but in simple tarballs. > > > > cd / ; for i in some/path/x*.tgz; do tar xvvzpf $i; done > > > > Configure if needed, run X. > > > > Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: Does "Rebuild Kernel" also mean binaries?

2006-03-01 Thread joerch
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 10:18:37AM -0600, Chet Langin wrote: > When a patch says to rebuild the kernel, > does that also mean to rebuild the system > binaries? No. You can just do "vi /path/to/patch/00x_whatever.patch" and follow the instructions. Until today i always got a patched and working s

Re: make build error on 3.9 (-current) i386

2006-03-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/01 12:03, Will H. Backman wrote: > Speaking of CVSup: > Are a lot of people using CVSup, CVSsyc, manual CVS, or something else? on my main network - cvsync a whole repo and normal cvs against that, for remote boxes - usually anoncvs against a suitable public server.

Re: make build error on 3.9 (-current) i386

2006-03-01 Thread Will H. Backman
Reza Muhammad wrote: Hi guys, I was just updating my source tree through cvsup, and I've been following -current for a while. There hadn't been any problems before. But today, make build returned errors. The last time I cvsup'd was today around 10pm (GMT +7), and here's some of the log:

Re: Does "Rebuild Kernel" also mean binaries?

2006-03-01 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > When a patch says to rebuild the kernel, > does that also mean to rebuild the system > binaries? No. DS

-current crashes on amd64

2006-03-01 Thread Stephan Tesch
Hi guys, After upgrading my -current system to the newest snapshot the system crashes on while booting the kernel. This is an amd64 on an Gigabyte GA-K8NMF. Is this problem known already (haven't found anything in last days mails)? This happens for bsd and bsd.mp, but not bsd.rd! If you need

Re: WebDAV locking trouble (yes, DavLockDB is chroot relative)

2006-03-01 Thread Nick Forrette
On 2/28/06, Nick Forrette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:httpd / mod_dav locking troubles (DavLockDB is > chrooted > relative) > Date: February 28, 2006 7:21:59 AM PST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I'm running Ope

make build error on 3.9 (-current) i386

2006-03-01 Thread Reza Muhammad
Hi guys, I was just updating my source tree through cvsup, and I've been following -current for a while. There hadn't been any problems before. But today, make build returned errors. The last time I cvsup'd was today around 10pm (GMT +7), and here's some of the log: Edit src/sys/arch/

Re: WebDAV locking trouble (yes, DavLockDB is chroot relative)

2006-03-01 Thread Nick Forrette
On 3/1/06, Didier Wiroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > I don't know if this helps you but I thought I let you know. I used to > run > into a lot of strange problems running httpd with mod_dav, httpd crashes > and also > (as far as I can remember) some db lock problems. > > All my problems we

Does "Rebuild Kernel" also mean binaries?

2006-03-01 Thread Chet Langin
When a patch says to rebuild the kernel, does that also mean to rebuild the system binaries? -- Chet Langin

Re: upl(4) interface not working

2006-03-01 Thread Lars Weste
Hi Sebastian, Henning, > --- Urspr|ngliche Nachricht --- > Von: Sebastian Schmitzdorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: misc@openbsd.org > Kopie: Lars Weste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Betreff: Re: upl(4) interface not working > Datum: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:15:07 +0100 > > I'm not much of an network expert but

Squid QOS

2006-03-01 Thread Cahyo
I wish someone make this http://www.docum.org/docum.org/faq/cache/65.html for obsd pf n altq, because very useful for SOHO user for bandwidth efficiency, maybe have another ideas for that goal -- Regards' -- Cahyo

3.9-beta ancontrol has gone question and cisco aironet firmware problem

2006-03-01 Thread Arndt Stajta
Hello, can anyone tell us which tool are the replacement for the ancontrol? Secound question: We made an firmware update of the aironet card to 5.61.00 from november 2005 and getting this error message: an0 at pcmcia0 function 0 "Cisco Systems, 350 Series Wireless LAN Adapter" an0: record buffe

Re: upl(4) interface not working

2006-03-01 Thread Sebastian Schmitzdorff
I'm not much of an network expert but wouldn't it help to use a /31 (255.255.255.254) instead of a /32 (255.255.255.255) mask? sebastian

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-03-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 10:55:29AM +0100, Joachim Schipper wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:01:26PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > X isn't in packages, but in simple tarballs. > > > cd / ; for i in some/path/x*.tgz; do tar xvvzpf $i; done > >

Re: WebDAV locking trouble (yes, DavLockDB is chroot relative)

2006-03-01 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi, I don't know if this helps you but I thought I let you know. I used to run into a lot of strange problems running httpd with mod_dav, httpd crashes and also (as far as I can remember) some db lock problems. All my problems were solved by copying the libdav.so into the chroot directory: /var/w

upl(4) interface not working

2006-03-01 Thread Lars Weste
Hi list, first I was happy to find this upl(4) device. after connecting it to the usb port, the device shows up as: upl0 at uhub0 port 2 upl0: Prolific Technology Inc. PL2302 Host-Host Interface, rev 1.00/0.01, addr 2 I configured it on the first machine: ifconfig upl0 inet 10.200.200.1 10.200

Re: Ethernet via USB cable

2006-03-01 Thread lweste
Hi David, > > So do I need special USB Ethernet hardware to configure a network > between > > two OpenBSD hosts connected together via USB, if not, which manpage did > I > > missed? > > If you're asking if you can plug a dumb usb cable between two computers, > the > answer is no. You can only

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-03-01 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:01:26PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > X isn't in packages, but in simple tarballs. > > > > cd / ; for i in some/path/x*.tgz; do tar xvvzpf $i; done > > > > Configure if needed, run X. > > > > Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECT

spamdb statistics

2006-03-01 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, i was wondering if someone has made a spamdb statistics tool. i am not looking for anything fancy (graphs, etc), something like pflogsumm would be more than enough. -f -- first came reality. then there was wolfenstein 3d...