> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nick Holland
> wrote:
> > Daniel Malament wrote:
> >> On 10/22/2009 5:37 AM, William Boshuck wrote:
> And here I thought I remembered the new installer being described as
> easier to use.
> >>
> >>> It is. Were it not so quick it would be positively
> >>> b
2009/10/23 ropers :
>
> I'd like to share a few images with you.
Well if a picture worth 1024 words...
Then I got a video for you!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i71bLCtDKzk
If you don't like flash plugin:
curl
"http://v20.lscache7.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?ip=0.0.0.0&sparams=id%2Cexpi
re%2
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nick Holland
wrote:
> Daniel Malament wrote:
>> On 10/22/2009 5:37 AM, William Boshuck wrote:
And here I thought I remembered the new installer being described as
easier to use.
>>
>>> It is. Were it not so quick it would be positively
>>> boring. Just don't
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:37:31PM +0100, Peter wrote:
> Marco Peereboom wrote:
>> dvorak is make belief benefit.
>>
>>
>
> The only disadvantages are if you're left handed (in the standard layout
> more emphasis is placed on the right hand), and that even official
> Dvorak keyboards and lay
Matthias Kilian wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:37:31PM +0100, Peter wrote:
It's debatable whether the Dvorak layout is any faster, but what is not
in doubt is the reduction in key travel.
you're not a pianist
OK. Finger travel, not key travel. Happy?
PK
Daniel Malament wrote:
> On 10/22/2009 5:37 AM, William Boshuck wrote:
>>> And here I thought I remembered the new installer being described as easier
>>> to use.
>
>> It is. Were it not so quick it would be positively
>> boring. Just don't set mount points for the partitions
>
> Perhaps I shou
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:37:31PM +0100, Peter wrote:
> It's debatable whether the Dvorak layout is any faster, but what is not
> in doubt is the reduction in key travel.
you're not a pianist
Marco Peereboom wrote:
dvorak is make belief benefit.
It's debatable whether the Dvorak layout is any faster, but what is not
in doubt is the reduction in key travel.
Not only are the frequently used keys closer together but the keyboard
is also arranged so that alternate hands are used t
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:04:53PM +, Miod Vallat wrote:
> > dvorak is make belief benefit.
>
> Tell that to my hands tendinitis... but maybe you're not writing enough
> code for your hands to suffer, Marco.
>
> And `j' and `k' are next to each other on dvorak keyboards anyway.
>
miod++
I
if i may...
3. Make history be local to the term first (for n entries) before
searching/using the global index.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:37:56AM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:01:47AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > > Some people should really give vi-mode in ks
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:01:47AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > Some people should really give vi-mode in ksh a try ;-)
>
> As a vi user I can't deal with it
>
> The reason being that you have to use j k to go up and down in the
> history. Life would be bliss if one could reassign the a
What happend if you change the bge1 interface to other network, example,
10.4.1.2 , for me, two interfaces on the same network, sometimes produces a
strange behavior.
I hope this can help !
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Mauro Rezzonico wrote:
> I get myself an IBM xSeries 335 model 8676 on
> dvorak is make belief benefit.
Tell that to my hands tendinitis... but maybe you're not writing enough
code for your hands to suffer, Marco.
And `j' and `k' are next to each other on dvorak keyboards anyway.
Miod
dvorak is make belief benefit.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:19:43PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:01:47AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 07:22:27AM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:28PM -0700, patrick keshishian wro
I get myself an IBM xSeries 335 model 8676 on eBay a couple of weeks
ago, installed OpenBSD 4.5 updated to 4.5-stable and did not notice any
problems...
Today I did a Fresh install of OpenBSD 4.6 and the network does not work!
Unfortunately I am not able to understand what's the matter, meanin
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, wrote:
> I've seen the same on IBM x346 - install goes fine, reboot, and then it does
> not
> want to play nice.
Installs and boot of all previous versions up until 4.6 work. I rolled
back the server to 4.5 home release and it is back and running.
On 22 October 2009 c. 22:58:53 Stuart VanZee wrote:
> The last is 8.5.13 locking users out after 6 failed login
> attempts. Quite frankly I find this to be a pretty stupid
> requirement as it causes a built in denial of service. I see
> how creating a custom Authentication style would allow me to
Quoting FRLinux :
> Hello,
>
> I have several IBM x series 336 servers and attempted to upgrade them
> today. My usual way is to use a build server which makes a release for
> my servers. It went well on that server (which is the only one not
> being an IBM x336, that will teach me...) so decided
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:55 PM, elias r. wrote:
>
>
> Am 10/22/09 9:27 PM, schrieb Ted Unangst:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:01 PM, elias r. wrote:
>>>
>>> thank you :)
>>> I'll update it later that day!
>>>
>>> one question: why did you choose tty over stdin?
>>> would using stdin be a secur
Am 10/22/09 9:27 PM, schrieb Ted Unangst:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:01 PM, elias r. wrote:
thank you :)
I'll update it later that day!
one question: why did you choose tty over stdin?
would using stdin be a security flaw?
As you discovered, making it read from tty makes it harder for people
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:02:26AM +1000, simplersolut...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > But, for sd on USB, it becomes more difficult to predict where do you
> > plan to plug your USB keys.
> > An alternative could be to use hotplugd(8) and to mount your "just
> > identified sd using its label" on top o
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:01 PM, elias r. wrote:
> > thank you :)
> > I'll update it later that day!
> >
> > one question: why did you choose tty over stdin?
> > would using stdin be a security flaw?
>
> As you discovered, making it read from tty makes it harder for people
> to put their put th
Hello,
I have several IBM x series 336 servers and attempted to upgrade them
today. My usual way is to use a build server which makes a release for
my servers. It went well on that server (which is the only one not
being an IBM x336, that will teach me...) so decided to deploy the new
build to the
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:01 PM, elias r. wrote:
> thank you :)
> I'll update it later that day!
>
> one question: why did you choose tty over stdin?
> would using stdin be a security flaw?
As you discovered, making it read from tty makes it harder for people
to put their put their password in a
Stuart VanZee wrote:
The last is 8.5.13 locking users out after 6 failed login
attempts. Quite frankly I find this to be a pretty stupid
requirement as it causes a built in denial of service. I see
how creating a custom Authentication style would allow me to
do this (in spite of my reservations
> I've just installe 4.5 on my Macbook.
[...]
> Unfortunately I can't get my keyboard function right! The most needed keys
> aren't recognized (in ksh). "< > | etc"
> There is no output when I press the keys :-( (neither in PC-style nor
> Mac-Style)
This seems to be a common problem with Apple h
> Since the Oct.16 snapshot I can not disable the keyboard bell (beel) with
> wsconsctl(8).
>
> $ wsconsctl
> [...]
> keyboard.bell.pitch=0
> keyboard.bell.period=0
> keyboard.bell.volume=0
> keyboard.bell.pitch.default=0
> keyboard.bell.period.default=0
> keyboard.bell.volume.default=0
> [...]
>
That would void the warranties on the external disks I'm afraid.
Is there no way to get this working in a stock 3.9 ?
And would it work in 4.6 ?
SWA
On 22 Oct 2009, at 20:30, Kenneth R Westerback wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Laurens Vets wrote:
Hey Swa,
I seem to have p
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:01:47AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 07:22:27AM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:28PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote:
> > > > Funny, I always disliked CTRL-A being taken by screen, since it was
> > > > so handy to
>Matthew Weigel
>
> I don't, I'm afraid, and a quick Google (which could have
> answered some
> of your other questions) suggests that it's come up before
> both on misc@
> and elsewhere. I know you don't want to hear about how the
> PCI DSS is
> wrong, but in this case their wrongness is, I think
thank you :)
I'll update it later that day!
one question: why did you choose tty over stdin?
would using stdin be a security flaw?
Am 10/22/09 12:36 AM, schrieb Marco Peereboom:
It's in.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 05:24:06PM +0200, elias r. wrote:
Am 10/21/2009 05:11 PM, schrieb Marco Peereboom
> Maurice Janssen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to build the file sets for 4.6-stable on an O2 machine, but it
>> keeps failing with the following error:
>>
>>
>>
>> In file included from mips64/cpu.h:358,
>> from machine/cpu.h:5,
>> from mips64/param.h:44,
>>
You can probably boot an install CD and go to the shell.
Assuming you can then see sd* at umass (which is fairly likely),
you should be able to mount/newfs as necessary, and copy the
data from the ami (pax/tar/cp/dd are available).
Or if you have another system running that you can save a
backup o
Maurice Janssen wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to build the file sets for 4.6-stable on an O2 machine, but
it keeps failing with the following error:
In file included from mips64/cpu.h:358,
from machine/cpu.h:5,
from mips64/param.h:44,
from machine/
Hi misc,
I'd like to share a few images with you. You'll probably go "WTF?" at
first, but bear with with me, it's going to become clear in the end:
1. This is the entrance to my flat: http://imgur.com/C7XN7.jpg
2. This is my vehicle: http://imgur.com/o0FDH.jpg
3. This is my couch: http://imgur.co
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 02:48:09PM +0200, Laurens Vets wrote:
> Hey Swa,
>
> >I seem to have painted myself in a corner somehow.
> >I can't upgrade without getting the data off of the system and it
> >doesn't want to play nice with USB drives.
> >
>
> >
> >I could try to look at old school BSD st
> the link on this site:
> http://www.openbsd.org/errata46.html
> for the .tar.gz file with all patches (001 and 002) isn't on the ftp
> server. Link directs to:
> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.6.tar.gz
> I get 550 No such file or directory.
Ah. A script wasn't updated. That file w
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 07:22:27AM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:28PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote:
> > > Funny, I always disliked CTRL-A being taken by screen, since it was
> > > so handy to go back to the beginning of the command line in ksh.
> > > But then, I m
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 07:22:27AM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:28PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote:
> > > Funny, I always disliked CTRL-A being taken by screen, since it was
> > > so handy to go back to the beginning of the command line in ksh.
> > > But then, I m
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:54:20PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> William Boshuck wrote:
> >
> > The man page is typically excellent, so you can learn
> > au besoin on the fly.
>
> May I also suggest the FAQ article written by tmux author Nicholas
> Marriott?
>http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.h
Hi,
the link on this site:
http://www.openbsd.org/errata46.html
for the .tar.gz file with all patches (001 and 002) isn't on the ftp
server. Link directs to:
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.6.tar.gz
I get 550 No such file or directory.
Regards
Reni
--
Reni Maroufi
i...@maroufi.net
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Philippe NICOLAS
wrote:
> Anyway is it possible for smtpd to log the IP of the remote server in the
> maillog as sendmail did it ?
I was asking for the same thing.
It's not useful, it's fundamental for any mail server admin. to know:
who got our mail, when and wi
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:24 PM, stan wrote:
> I have a nachine that has run out of process table entries. One of my
> co-workers asked how one could check for this, and I am afraid that I did
> not know the answwer.
>
> So, how can one read the usage of kernel limits at rutime?
sysctl kern.maxpr
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:24:43AM -0400, stan wrote:
> I have a nachine that has run out of process table entries. One of my
> co-workers asked how one could check for this, and I am afraid that I did
> not know the answwer.
>
> So, how can one read the usage of kernel limits at rutime?
See sysc
man systat
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:24 PM, stan wrote:
> I have a nachine that has run out of process table entries. One of my
> co-workers asked how one could check for this, and I am afraid that I did
> not know the answwer.
>
> So, how can one read the usage of kernel limits at rutime?
>
> --
I have a nachine that has run out of process table entries. One of my
co-workers asked how one could check for this, and I am afraid that I did
not know the answwer.
So, how can one read the usage of kernel limits at rutime?
--
One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lac
Swa Frantzen wrote:
I can't upgrade without getting the data off of the system and it
doesn't want to play nice with USB drives.
Use the network, Swa... ;)
dump/rsync/rcp/sftp/ftp-put/nfs/wathever over a network link to a
different machine, maybe one that supports your USB disk...
It's not S
Hey Swa,
I seem to have painted myself in a corner somehow.
I can't upgrade without getting the data off of the system and it
doesn't want to play nice with USB drives.
I could try to look at old school BSD stuff and think about building a
new kernel, but the amount
of "don't do that" s
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 03:34:45AM -0400, Daniel Malament wrote:
> On 10/22/2009 2:41 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >>There used to be a message before the install script wiped out
> >>filesystems with newfs, listing the partitions and asking if you
> >>were sure. Was this removed, or did I somehow m
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:10:06PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
>
> > or a bug of the daily script and how can i turn the mails off?
>
> Very probably, setting
> VERBOSESTATUS=0
> in /etc/daily.local is all you want, see daily(8) for details.
Thanks for the hint. I tested the daily script with
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Brad Tilley wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM, John Cosimano
> wrote:
>
> One thing that screen got right is the A key. It's a lot closer to
> Ctrl than B. So far, key proximity has been my only annoyance. I'm
> guessing that can be customized.
I resisted to C-b unt
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Elmar Bschorer
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just installe 4.5 on my Macbook.
> __
> Modellname: B B MacBook
> B Modell-Identifizierung: B B B MacBook2,1
> B Prozessortyp: Intel Core 2 Duo
> B Prozessorgeschw
I seem to have painted myself in a corner somehow.
I can't upgrade without getting the data off of the system and it
doesn't want to play nice with USB drives.
The system:
- amd64
- generic.mp kernel
- OpenBSD 3.9
- contains an hardware raid card (AMI) creating 2 "virtual" sd drives:
sd0 and
Hi Rene,
Rene Maroufi wrote on Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:20:43AM +0200:
> I don't want the output of the daily script mailed.
> In man afterboot (section crontab) is an example to write the output
> in /var/log/daily.out, but this example doesn't work in 4.6.
> I used this always and it was no prob
On 10/22/2009 5:37 AM, William Boshuck wrote:
And here I thought I remembered the new installer being described as easier to
use.
It is. Were it not so quick it would be positively
boring. Just don't set mount points for the partitions
Perhaps I should clarify: IMO, not double-checking wit
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 03:34:45AM -0400, Daniel Malament wrote:
> On 10/22/2009 2:41 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >>There used to be a message before the install script wiped out
> >>filesystems with newfs, listing the partitions and asking if you were
> >>sure. Was this removed, or did I somehow
If you can try a -current snapshot on it (or at least build a -current
bgpd/bgpctl even if you keep this kernel), that would be helpful because
we'll know if the problem was already fixed.
If it still happens it's worth checking logs for anything unusual,
ideally run bgpd -v and make sure that sys
On 10/22/2009 4:31 AM, Jan Stary wrote:
On Oct 22 03:34:45, Daniel Malament wrote:
In fact, there was a particular reason for my question. I had the vague
impression, probably erroneous, I suppose, that it was possible to get
the old install script to only newfs those systems for which you
Elliott Barrere wrote:
> What is the preferred procedure for changing files that are watched by
> the security script (i.e. present in /etc/changelist)?
vi, emacs, $EDITOR, whatever.. :-)
> I have a few boxes cloned from one and I would like to change SSH keys
> and other sensitive files but the
On Oct 22 03:34:45, Daniel Malament wrote:
> In fact, there was a particular reason for my question. I had the vague
> impression, probably erroneous, I suppose, that it was possible to get
> the old install script to only newfs those systems for which you
> specified a mount point.
Which i
Donald Allen wrote:
> When doing a clean install of 4.6 on a machine with a 20 Gb Windows
> partition at the beginning of a 60 Gb disk, I needed to create the
> OpenBSD (A6) partition. I did so in CHS mode. When it prompted me for
> the starting sector of the partition, it offered [1] as the defaul
On 10/22/2009 2:41 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
There used to be a message before the install script wiped out
filesystems with newfs, listing the partitions and asking if you were
sure. Was this removed, or did I somehow miss something? And WHY???
Because it is the install script.
What did you
Hello,
I don't want the output of the daily script mailed. In man afterboot
(section crontab) is a example to write the output in
/var/log/daily.out, but this example doesn't work in 4.6. I used this
always and it was no problem in 4.5, but in 4.6 I get always mails.
Is this a documentation bug i
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