Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> > 100% right. The load average calculation has not changed in 25 years. >> > Anyone who says otherwise hasn't got a single fact on their side. >> > >> > What has changed, however, is that the kernel has more kernel threads >> > running (for

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

> > 100% right. The load average calculation has not changed in 25 years. > > Anyone who says otherwise hasn't got a single fact on their side. > > > > What has changed, however, is that the kernel has more kernel threads > > running (for instance, ps aguxk, and look at the first few which have >

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> On 2011-06-01 15.53, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: >> > On 2 June 2011 01:41, Benny Lofgren > > > wrote: >> > I agree with what you are saying, and I worded this quite badly, the >> > frame I was trying to setup was

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Re: I don't get where the load comes from

> > On 1 June 2011 17:49, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > What has changed, however, is that the kernel has more kernel threads > > > running (for instance, ps aguxk, and look at the first few which have > > > the 'K' flag set in the 'STAT' field. > > > > In ps aguxk, what does the "g" do? I didn't fi

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

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Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

@ Alexey Suslikov wrote (2011-06-01 21:04+0200): > Why do they need such a trick instead of simply storing tags in a > associative array, where key is a pointer and value is a set of tags > (or any other arbitrary data)? Lookup against properly aligned array > is relatively fast. Am I missing some

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 11:09:03PM +0200, ropers wrote: > On 1 June 2011 17:49, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > What has changed, however, is that the kernel has more kernel threads > > running (for instance, ps aguxk, and look at the first few which have > > the 'K' flag set in the 'STAT' field. > > I

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:49:17AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > On 2011-06-01 15.53, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: > > > On 2 June 2011 01:41, Benny Lofgren > > > wrote: > > > I agree with what you are saying, and I worded this quite badly, the > > > frame I was trying

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

@ Otto Moerbeek wrote (2011-06-01 14:12+0200): > Storing tag bits in the lower bits of a pointer can be ok indeed if > you know things about alignment restrictions. Of course it all stands and falls with the quality of the memory allocator! If that sucks your canary's chirp beeps like a mouse i

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 1 June 2011 17:49, Theo de Raadt wrote: > What has changed, however, is that the kernel has more kernel threads > running (for instance, ps aguxk, and look at the first few which have > the 'K' flag set in the 'STAT' field. In ps aguxk, what does the "g" do? I didn't find enlightenment on the

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Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

Ariane van der Steldt wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 03:28:11PM -0500, Amit Kulkarni wrote: > > >> > basically rewriting the memory > > >> > management part of the OS in your browser. > > >> > > >> Do some browsers do this on OpenBSD? > > Googles v8 javascript engine has Pages, Spaces, Heaps and

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Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

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Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 01-Jun-11 08:39, Benny Lofgren wrote: On 2011-06-01 17.16, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: On 1 June 2011 11:01, LeviaComm Networks wrote: On 01-Jun-11 05:46, Benny Lofgren wrote: On 2011-05-31 14.45, Artur Grabowski wrote: The load average is a decaying average of the number of processe

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

> On 2011-06-01 15.53, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: > > On 2 June 2011 01:41, Benny Lofgren > > wrote: > > I agree with what you are saying, and I worded this quite badly, the > > frame I was trying to setup was "back in the day" when multi-user meant > > something (VAX/

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:51:27PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > People not following development too closely may not be aware of it, > but we've had a lot of fun with amd64 recently. > > Specifically, Ariane committed a new vmmap implementation that tends to > actually use the 64 bits address space,

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 2011-06-01 17.16, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: > On 1 June 2011 11:01, LeviaComm Networks wrote: >> On 01-Jun-11 05:46, Benny Lofgren wrote: >>> >>> On 2011-05-31 14.45, Artur Grabowski wrote: The load average is a decaying average of the number of processes in the runnable sta

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 2011-06-01 15.53, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: > On 2 June 2011 01:41, Benny Lofgren > wrote: > I agree with what you are saying, and I worded this quite badly, the > frame I was trying to setup was "back in the day" when multi-user meant > something (VAX/PDP) - the l

Re: Obsolescence engineering (was: vmmap: bad software everywhere)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 04:42:02 + annathemerm...@hush.com wrote: >On 31 May 2011 19:51, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 07:23:46PM +, Christian Weisgerber >wrote: >> >>> Marc Espie wrote: >>> >>> > Not surprisingly, a lot of soft

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 1 June 2011 11:01, LeviaComm Networks wrote: > On 01-Jun-11 05:46, Benny Lofgren wrote: >> >> On 2011-05-31 14.45, Artur Grabowski wrote: >>> >>> The load average is a decaying average of the number of processes in >>> the runnable state or currently running on a cpu or in the process of >>> be

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 01-Jun-11 05:46, Benny Lofgren wrote: On 2011-05-31 14.45, Artur Grabowski wrote: The load average is a decaying average of the number of processes in the runnable state or currently running on a cpu or in the process of being forked or that have spent less than a second in a sleep state with

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

On 1 June 2011 00:13, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Corey wrote: >> > data in "unused" bits in a pointer? Even I know that's a bad idea. Is it >> > really that important to run your Javascript 2% faster? >> >> The difference is quite a bit more than 2%. The techniqu

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Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 2011-06-01 15.12, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: > Load is generally a measure of a single processor core utilization over an > kernel dependent time range. No it isn't. You have totally misunderstood what the load average is. > Generally as others have pointed out being a very broad (not as in me

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:51 PM, bofh wrote: > This is interesting. I would really appreciate it very much if you don't > mind elaborating a bit more for a non-programmer? Thanks! The general idea which I believe is used by JS engines is to notice that javascript has two datatypes, floating po

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Re: I don't get where the load comes from

Load is generally a measure of a single processor core utilization over an kernel dependent time range. Generally as others have pointed out being a very broad (not as in meadow, as in continent). Different OS's report load very differently from each other today. Traditionally you would see a loa

Re: I don't get where the load comes from

On 2011-05-31 14.45, Artur Grabowski wrote: > The load average is a decaying average of the number of processes in > the runnable state or currently running on a cpu or in the process of > being forked or that have spent less than a second in a sleep state > with sleep priority lower than PZERO, wh

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 01:48:03PM +0200, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: > @ Corey wrote (2011-06-01 04:39+0200): > > I mean, come on -- storing data in "unused" bits in a pointer? Even > > I know that's a bad idea. > > But really, there are user-space memory pools which align on 8 or > 16 byte

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

@ Corey wrote (2011-06-01 04:39+0200): > I mean, come on -- storing data in "unused" bits in a pointer? Even > I know that's a bad idea. But really, there are user-space memory pools which align on 8 or 16 byte boundaries, so here you have at least three perfectly fine bits. That's at least som

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Re: OT:Re: How do I exclude a directory using tar in OpenBSD?

On Tue, 31 May 2011 17:05:55 -0400, "Eric Furman" wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2011 13:43 +0200, "Marian Hettwer" >> Obviously not. >> I'm talking about shell scripts which should work in a multi unix >> environment. Namely, in my env, Debian, Solaris and OpenBSD. >> I tend to install gnu sed and gnu

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

On 2011-06-01 04.58, Damien Miller wrote: >>> The recent trend of forking another process for a tab instead of a >>> monolithic single process for the whole browser is a way of extending >>> the time required to clean up this mess? Or there is no relation >>> between them? >> I cannot look into the

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