Greetings,
I was having mutiple kernel panics while using rtorrent with over 60
active torrents and multiple files. Obviously I was not using root to
run rtorrent.
I would get multiple "re0: watchdog timeout" messages and suddenly the
laptop would freeze and the kernel would spit the following ms
Hi,
I installed the 4.9 release on my machine and I was having trouble
with my network card. Every couple of seconds I would get the
message "nfe0: watchdog timeout". For all purposes I couldn't connect
to the internet. I have a Nvidia RealTek ethernet card. More details
in the dmesg...
After me
> > After messing around with boot -c I was able to get it working
> > by disabling acpi, apm and mpbios. Hope this helps someone, since
> > I didn't find anything about this error on the OpenBSD archives...
>
> Nvidia HW is quite too much crappy. Did you try latest snapshot just
> to see if it's o
The troll has been planted.
Could you please stop spamming the list?
It's really annoying.
Hello everyone,
I have to use raw sockets for a college assignment. I basically
have to code a simplified FTP client of sorts to connect 2
machines. No IP nor TCP involved by definition. The specification
for this assignment is similar to the Kermit protocol, if anyone
is familiar with that.
I wo
Thanks for all the answers so far.
I forgot to mention that the connection will be done
using a crossover ethernet cable, if that's relevant.
Never thought I would see confucionism on misc@
> .. byebye misc@, too much spam ...
>
Indeed.
I'm running/I've runned OpenBSD, NetBSD, OpenWall GNU/Linux and
Slackware 9.0/12.0/13.0 on qemu.
I'm no expert, but it seems to work ok. Give it a try, it compiles
fast.
I didn't use any modules on qemu - actually, I didn't even know such
modules exist. Go ahead and try the "main package".
I'm r
> Java, on the other hand, from my limited experience trying to tutor
> someone in it, *is* crap :) [Well, that's probably too harsh, but it
> did give me a headache and RSI from all the damn typing.]
People claim Java is portable, when it's not. And a lot of java
programs use proprietary libra
Isn't ZFS license "copyleft"? I mean, if one includes zfs in the
kernel the whole kernel would have to be CDDL? (Like the GPL)
>>> Isn't ZFS license "copyleft"? I mean, if one includes zfs in the
>>> kernel the whole kernel would have to be CDDL? (Like the GPL)
>>
>> No. No.
>
> Actually, I think that should be "Yes. No." But whatever, the answer
> to the only question that matters is still "No."
>
Oh like the LGPL, ok.
> This is not really important but one machine prints that (5~) on the
> actual xterm or aterm o whatever active window after
> switching from any 'non-mouse' terminal to X with the Ctrl-Alt-F5
> key combination. The machine works fine and I've never seen
> this behaviour, just wondering if it's ha
I don't have this problem in Fluxbox under GNU/Linux. Haven't tested
Fluxbox on OpenBSD yet, though.
> Check the source. Oh wait
lol
Flame war ahead!
> As a long time Linux user I will soon try out OpenBSD, I have been
> reading the list emails and contacted 1 OpenBSD top person who was
> very rude.
OMG you sent mail to Theo de Radt asking for help?
> There is some of the "RTFM" or "get lost" attitude in Linux, but if
> a que
> > The difference is that OpenBSD is for advanced users.
>
> depends how you define advanced.
>
Yes. Imagine someone who use computers, like 2 hours a week and
use Windows. If you give him a computer with one of those GNU/Linux
distros aimed at ease of use he will probably get along easily -
unti
> Actually two of the top linux kernel developers answered my email
> directly to them when I had some questions. There was no ridicule or
> belittling.
>
lol!
I WANT to see that! Really.
> > I'm much more inclined to the GNU/Linux philosophy of Limitation
> >
>
> Fixed that for you.
>
> Greg
>
This kind of childish attitude is what I meant when I said:
> You will find this almost everywhere. One particular issue of some
> OpenBSD users is that they feel cool because they use Open
> My "fix" has nothing to do with childish attitude or being more nerdy than
> you. It has everything do with GNU's twisted definition of freedom.
>
Yet, that's YOUR view on the subject. My views are quite different.
You probably hate the GPL. I like it.
So let's stop arguing because this is a
Fascinating. I predicted Peereboom would post the same old rant.
> > > My "fix" has nothing to do with childish attitude or being more nerdy than
> > > you. It has everything do with GNU's twisted definition of freedom.
> > >
> >
> > Yet, that's YOUR view on the subject. My views are quite diff
> Eh? Was it irony? I suppose that not and you need to learn A LOT about
> who is Marco ;-)
>
Search for "Strange concept" on marc.info.
> Then apply some logical thinking yourself, and quit drinking Stallman's
> kool-aid.
>
Funny.
> How many restrictions are in the BSD and ISC licenses? For all intents
> and purposes, one: keep the copyright message intact. Otherwise, *free*
> to do with as you please. That's a fact.
>
"Ot
> > That's because I don't yell "GPL is not free" while I'm using GPL.
>
> what's wrong with that? if I use Windows and yell "Windows is not free",
> would you think the same?
>
If you were insulting a Windows user, probably.
> I'm curious, what freedom do you think the GPL brings to those peopl
> Lets try it.
>
> 0 < X < (Y + Z)
> Y > 0
> Z > 0
>
> ISC = X
> GPL = X + Y + Z
>
> Logical enough for you?
>
If you assume that the definition of freedom is the number of
restrictions, then neither ISC nor GPL are free. The only free
license would be no license at all. Public domain.
Since _my_
> > For them? Maybe the freedom to give copies to their friends whithout
> > being sued or doing anything illegal.
>
> That can easily be applied to any of the free licenses without any
> other legal obligations.
>
Yes! Because they are all free (in _my_ opinion). I like GPL, ISC,
BSD, all of them
> The dictionary definition of freedom is no restrictions
>
"NO RESTRICTIONS"
May I point out to you that ISC has restrictions. You are
contradicting yourself.
Logic works the same for everyone, since it's an abstract
field, but apparently you did not study it.
> Now this is interesting...
>
> Does anything supersede Copyright Law?
>
> What if I release my work as Anonymous with
> no text in regards to licensing?
>
> Does anyone wanting to use that work in OpenBSD
> actually have to track down who "Anonymous" was?
> Does the code become useless if its own
> You do not seem to understand how copyright works. When published, a
> work is subject to a set of restrictions, laid down by copyright law.
> A license grants rights (under conditions or restrictions) to the
> receiver of a work. No license means no extra rights, which means the
> default defin
> I think the best example is "Free as in Beer."
>
Which already misses the point.
> I can brew beer all day.
>
> I can keep it to myself.
>
> I can also share it.
>
> If I share a beer with you, it is free. (I am giving it to you)
>
If you sell it to me it's also free. You are missing the point
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law#Duration_of_copyright
>
>From http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm
1923 through 1977
Published without a copyright notice
None. In the public domain due to failure to comply
> The ISC has one restriction and I never claimed otherwise. The GPL has
> MORE restrictions. I am not contradicting myself. You just want to
> change the dictionary to match your little reality.
>
You are contradicting yourself. On your terms:
Axioms:
1 Freedom means no restrictions
2 ISC has
> > Saying that ISC is "more free" than GPL makes no sense
>
> Saying "Do not remove our text" does not restrict your freedom. That's
> all the ISC asks of you. Leave the copyright notice and the permission
> to use alone.
>
Please do not take my mesages out of context. Removing sentences, and
twi
> In case anyone is still interested, a US based reseller of the 10in
> Lemote Yeeloong has popped up in Boston, MA. I just placed my order and
> hope to have it this weekend.
>
> It looks like Freedom Included does group buys direct from Lemote then
> resells them preloaded with gnewsense (a fsf a
> OpenBSD's stock httpd is very slow and outdated. It is about 6 years old.
> Almost an abandonware.
I will print this mail and laugh everyday with it. :)
> OpenBSD does more when running each process for security reasons and so
> is arguably slower than Linux, but also does less by default and so is
> faster than most distros. It's still blisteringly fast, especially where
> it counts and if I had to choose one OS to use it would be OpenBSD.
>
I in
> I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
> software engineering in my university.
"Unified Modeling Language"...
I think it's just part of all that Java non-sense.
> Shake out your head gear. There is a difference between "user programs" and
> "system programs". The overwhelming majority of user-land programs are done
> in OOP languages. That Java nonsense just happens to be the most popular
> programming language.
Yes and the vast majority of people
The computer industry is driven by fashion instead of quality...
> But here are the facts smart man: Java is so common that it is known to as
> _the_ application language of our time - it is ubiquitous.
LMAO
Why don't YOU provide an example of some USEFUL program in Java?
> toward it changes that not one bit. And a fair portion of this new Java is
> document
Congratulations! Keep up the excellent work, guys.
> > Considering theora's 0% adoption rate,
>
> Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons used to be a 100% Theora shop when it came
> to video, but I'm no longer up to date, and things might have changed.
>
It still is.
Some other sites adopted theora too, Dailymotion, for instance.
That "Panama issue" is funny.
> Your poll will have zero influence on hardware manufacturers to increase
> support of any particular BSD. You know what will? Your money. If a
> manufacturer or wholesaler wants to ignore your favorite OS, you:
>
> 1) Ask them to support your OS.
> 2) Spend your
> I thought that RMS is GNU guy and this is BSD mailing list so maybe
> you mistyped address? Anyway what's the status of reading and
> searching ability on universities in Mexico as email of RMS is on his
> own page http://stallman.org/ ? ;-)
>
At first I tought it was spam. It's quite weird for
> > I thought that RMS is GNU guy and this is BSD mailing list so maybe
> > you mistyped address? Anyway what's the status of reading and
> > searching ability on universities in Mexico as email of RMS is on his
> > own page http://stallman.org/ ? ;-)
> >
>
> At first I tought it was spam. It's qui
> Hi,
>
> Is this applicable to OpenBSD also? ( I guess yes )
>
> http://www.reddit.com/comments/cb3n0/are_you_a_canadian_linux_user_youre_about_to/
>
Canadian DMCA, eh?
> My first programming primer (Fortran ... them days) had a very concise
> delineation of the difference between neat programming and the much
> more common alternative -- "given a big enough engine, even brick will
> fly". I never cared for the american "muscle" cars but was always
> fascinate
> If i chose web hosting using iis, it is not your problem but mine.
> So keep your small criticisms for you. Without rancor ! ;-)
>
Your discussion has NOTHING TO DO with OpenBSD.
Nobody cares what you use, if it is not OpenBSD :)
He is just trolling...
Just look at his postings...
Looks like you love Atom, I don't see why.
> And the relevance of this to the OpenBSD community is?
>
Ever heard of that thing called "spam" ?
"Theo de Raadt compares proprietary graphic drivers with apartheid"
This made my day.
> Hello All,
>
> I am thinking about changing my OS to OpenBSD on my laptop, which is standard
> x86.
> It would be used as internet browser, mail client, multimedia, pciture &
> video
> , etc ...
>
There is software for multimedia manipulation that run on OpenBSD.
See if they are good for you.
> The only thing I've pretty much given up on is flash. No big loss
> since removing the flashplayer plugin means firefox will crash
> slightly less often and you're spared a lot of the less useful ads.
>
Well, one can still try Gnash or Swfdec.
If one just wants to see videos on Youtube, one ca
> http://www.news.com.au/technology/no-anti-virus-software-no-internet-connecti
> on/story-e6frfro0-1225882656490
>
> "Companies who release IT products with security vulnerabilities
> should be open to claims for compensation by consumers", apparently.
>
> Illegal to run without antivirus ... disc
> facinating number of posts like this recently, all from gmail users
> we've never seen before...
>
Yes, it's troll year.
> And you're lucky if you don't need Unicode. For me that's a big
> show-stopper on a desktop machine. Once OpenBSD gets UTF-8, there
> won't be just any reason for me not to use it on a laptop. All my
> hardware (Thinkpad X200s) is supported, all the apps I need are there.
> It's just that I don't
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:37:38PM -0500, STeve Andre' wrote:
> I don't. A lot of people are genuinely confused & curious about this BSD
> thing, the operating system and license. The number of times I've explained
> (or tried to) the BSD license vs. GPL numbers in the dozens now.
You could sell
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 05:00:50PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote:
>
> As for being able to do it with GPL CDs - Try doing it with HedRat,
> particularly any of the RHEL lines. You'll find out quickly that the
> licence doesn't get you anywhere when HatRed's lawyers are on your
> case. That's why Cento
Brazil!
I know lots of flamewars, Emacs vs vi, GPL vs BSD, Pine vs Mutt, etc.
But ASCII vs Unicode is new to me.
> $ pkg_info | grep ^banana- > /dev/null
Could also be
$ pkg_info | grep -q ^banana-
There would be more ip adresses if some greedy companies didn't
take a lot of addresses for themselves...
> No, that's India (people). Or Russia (size).
>
No, that's _CHINA_ (people). Or Russia (size).
:P
> So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the
> SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised?
> I still don't figure out why this checksum missmatch is ( on the same
> server, not among servers).
The troll haas been planted.
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