On the subject of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
Now these companies have a great excuse to keep specs locked up tight
under NDA, while pretending to be "open."
The OpenBSD project has been made clear more than once how this will
hurt Free Software in the long run. Signing NDA's
Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:39:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
>> On the subject of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
>>
>> Now these companies have a great excuse to keep specs locked up tight
>> under NDA, while pretending to be "open."
>>
>> The OpenBSD proj
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:39:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
> On the subject of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
>
> Now these companies have a great excuse to keep specs locked up tight
> under NDA, while pretending to be "open."
>
> The OpenBSD project has been made cle
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:39:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
> >> On the subject of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html
> >>
> >> Now these companies have a great excuse to keep specs lock
> I'm guessing that you did not read the followup FAQ about the program
> at:
> http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers_faq.html
>
> Please see the final question and answer on that page.
It ia a fucking farce.
You are trying to make sure that maintainers of code -- ie. any
random joe
"Stephan A. Rickauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has just been
> said. You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the result is a
> readable and understandable GPL'ed driver, companies will be even less
> motivated to release programming do
Artur Grabowski wrote:
> "Stephan A. Rickauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has
> > just been said. You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the
> > result is a readable and understandable GPL'ed driver,
> > companies will be even less mot
On 14/02/07, Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Artur Grabowski wrote:
> > "Stephan A. Rickauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has
> > > just been said. You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the
> > > result is a readable and un
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:18:16PM +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
| On 14/02/07, Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >
| > Artur Grabowski wrote:
| > > "Stephan A. Rickauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > > > I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has
| > > > just been said. You see
2007/2/14, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
And yet when a driver is released under the BSD licence, which conflicts
with the GPL
It doesn't. It simply doesn't work under Linux.
Best
Martin
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:45:06PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:18:16PM +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
> | On 14/02/07, Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | >
> | > Artur Grabowski wrote:
> | > > "Stephan A. Rickauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | > > > I did read your
mickey wrote:
> oh come fucking on!
> do not start this bsd vs gpl crap again!
On the contrary, this is BSD united with GPL crap. :-)
# Han
Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Which is exactly what the GPL people want since that's the whole
> > point of the license. Otherwise they wouldn't be using the
> > GPL. Duh.
>
> Nah, RMS doesn't want this. A lot of `GPL people' don't want this
> at all.
I quoted too much. The part I m
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:58:00 +0100, "mickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:45:06PM +0100, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:18:16PM +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
> > | On 14/02/07, Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | >
> > | > Artur Grabowski wrote:
>
On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How long have you people been reading these lists?
When are people going to realize that Han is just a troll.
I've been here since 2004 and i never noticed!
However i noticed that Han is sometimes bearer
of apparently unpopular opinions
Man I *love* unforeseen consequences!
> > I did read your FAQ but I can't see how it rebuts what has just been
> > said.
>
> You seem to have missed:
> Q: What about the BSDs?
>
> A: What about them? They are free to do whatever they wish, I
> have no input into their develo
Artur Grabowski wrote:
> Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Which is exactly what the GPL people want since that's the whole
> > > point of the license. Otherwise they wouldn't be using the
> > > GPL. Duh.
> >
> > Nah, RMS doesn't want this. A lot of `GPL people' don't want this
> > at al
On 2/14/07, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nah, RMS doesn't want this. A lot of `GPL people' don't want this
> at all.
>
> This deal is meant to divide.
>
And this discussion isn't? There are already plenty of divisions within the
FOSS world - between the F and OS of FOSS, between Lin
Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
> > You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the result is a
> > readable and understandable GPL'ed driver, companies will be
> > even less motivated to release programming documentation. This
> > will lead to a
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:42:25AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> Well, as my goal is to have a GPL driver for everything, I don't see how
> this can hurt :)
What's the point of making the driver GPL if only one person is has
the documentation to know how to change it? Don't you think it's
short sighted
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:18 am, you wrote:
> On 2/14/07, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Nah, RMS doesn't want this. A lot of `GPL people' don't want this
> > > at all.
> > >
> > > This deal is meant to divide.
> >
> > And this discussion isn't? There are already plenty of div
On Feb 14, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Marc Ravensbergen wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:18 am, you wrote:
>> On 2/14/07, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is becoming one of those topics which goes on way to long,
and in which all the modalities applicable to OpenBSD have been
exhaust
On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Darren Spruell wrote:
On 2/14/07, Jack J. Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Linux, Gnu and other subjects
have their own mailing lists.
Only if you operate under the assumption that the actions of these
other groups don't undermine the efforts of your own.
No, I
On 2/14/07, Jack J. Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Feb 14, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Marc Ravensbergen wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 February 2007 10:18 am, you wrote:
>> On 2/14/07, Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is becoming one of those topics which goes on way to long,
and in which all
On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Darren Spruell wrote:
My alternative is to go blare my mouth on Slashdot, but I'm more than
a little outnumbered there.
Actually, someone should (has already?) start one of those projects/
campaigns like
"browse anywhere" (http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/) and
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