Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-03-16 Thread Marcel Dan
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Laurent CARON wrote: > Henning Brauer wrote: > >> this is extremely stupid. >> > > I know, I'm a very stupid guy ;) You are not the first... http://search.gmane.org/?query=stupid&author=henning&group=gmane.os.openbsd.misc&sort=relevance&DEFAULTOP=and&xP=Zstupid&

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-03-16 Thread Laurent CARON
Henning Brauer wrote: this is extremely stupid. I know, I'm a very stupid guy ;)

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-03-16 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium
: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Henning Brauer Sent: 16 March 2009 13:29 To: OpenBSD Subject: Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance * Laurent CARON [2009-02-28 21:33]: Steve Shockley wrote: On 2/27/2009 8:43 AM,

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-03-16 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:51:19PM -, Michal wrote: | Sorry but I worked for a very successful company in the UK that didn't use | auto neg's on Cisco switches and routers so I wouldn't call it evil AT all, | please explain why manual is evil. Manual is error-prone. If everything defaults to a

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-03-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Michal [2009-03-16 14:56]: > Sorry but I worked for a very successful company in the UK that didn't use > auto neg's on Cisco switches and routers so I wouldn't call it evil AT all, > please explain why manual is evil. because it leads to errors, sooner or later, that are hard to debug. And not

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-03-16 Thread Michal
half Of Henning Brauer Sent: 16 March 2009 13:29 To: OpenBSD Subject: Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance * Laurent CARON [2009-02-28 21:33]: > Steve Shockley wrote: >> On 2/27/2009 8:43 AM, Laurent CARON wrote: >>> - Forcing speed on

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-03-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Laurent CARON [2009-02-28 21:33]: > Steve Shockley wrote: >> On 2/27/2009 8:43 AM, Laurent CARON wrote: >>> - Forcing speed on switch >>> - Forcing speed on nic >> >> Why? This practice made sense when 10baseT gear from different vendors >> wasn't compatible, but not for the last 15-20 years.

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-28 Thread Steve Shockley
On 2/28/2009 4:45 PM, Brian Keefer wrote: I've had problems with bge(4)s in IBM xSeries machines that required forcing speed/duplex, else they would negotiate to 100/half. Probably your switch was forced to 100/full... autonegotiation needs to be enabled on both ends of the connection.

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-28 Thread Brian Keefer
On Feb 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Laurent CARON wrote: Steve Shockley wrote: On 2/27/2009 8:43 AM, Laurent CARON wrote: - Forcing speed on switch - Forcing speed on nic Why? This practice made sense when 10baseT gear from different vendors wasn't compatible, but not for the last 15-20 years.

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-28 Thread Laurent CARON
Steve Shockley wrote: On 2/27/2009 8:43 AM, Laurent CARON wrote: - Forcing speed on switch - Forcing speed on nic Why? This practice made sense when 10baseT gear from different vendors wasn't compatible, but not for the last 15-20 years. This practice still makes sense, at least with broad

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-28 Thread Steve Shockley
On 2/27/2009 8:43 AM, Laurent CARON wrote: - Forcing speed on switch - Forcing speed on nic Why? This practice made sense when 10baseT gear from different vendors wasn't compatible, but not for the last 15-20 years. http://www.ethermanage.com/ethernet/pdf/dell-auto-neg.pdf Moreover, gigabi

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-28 Thread Laurent CARON
Pete Vickers wrote: The bge driver sucks for these cards - just chuck in an em(4) NIC and you should see instant improvement. Those cards have always been unreliable for me under Linux and OpenBSD.

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009/02/28 12:10, Pereresus ne Vlezaet Buggy wrote: > On 28 February 2009 ?. 01:58:29 Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2009-02-27, Pete Vickers wrote: > > > The bge driver sucks for these cards - just chuck in an em(4) NIC > > > and you should see instant improvement. > > > > > > 'netstat -I bge0

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-28 Thread Pereresus ne Vlezaet Buggy
On 28 February 2009 G. 01:58:29 Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2009-02-27, Pete Vickers wrote: > > The bge driver sucks for these cards - just chuck in an em(4) NIC > > and you should see instant improvement. > > > > 'netstat -I bge0' will confirm the packet errors > > this was fixed a year ago. Ma

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-02-27, Pete Vickers wrote: > The bge driver sucks for these cards - just chuck in an em(4) NIC and > you should see instant improvement. > > 'netstat -I bge0' will confirm the packet errors this was fixed a year ago.

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-27 Thread Alexander Farber
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Han Boetes wrote: > cache_dir aufs xxx yyy Thank you, I've switched to aufs, I hope it works ok on OpenBSD (docs mention "POSIX threads"). The netstat actually doesn't show I/O errors: afar...@ablprx01:squid> netstat -I bge0 NameMtu Network Address

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-27 Thread Han Boetes
I recommend you switch to: cache_dir aufs xxx yyy # Han

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-27 Thread Pete Vickers
The bge driver sucks for these cards - just chuck in an em(4) NIC and you should see instant improvement. 'netstat -I bge0' will confirm the packet errors /Pete On 27 Feb 2009, at 14:33, Alexander Farber wrote: bge0 at pci3 dev 6 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5704C" rev 0x10, BCM5704 B0 (0x2100

Re: HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-27 Thread Laurent CARON
Alexander Farber wrote: Hello, our web proxy for 400 users (actually at the moment less than 100, but we are going to switch the others to use it soon) is slow. It is a HP Proliant DL385 running OpenBSD 4.4-stable with the squid-2.7.STABLE3 from packages (dmesg below). Does anybody please have

HP Proliant DL385 with Squid at a Gigabit-switch - bad network performance

2009-02-27 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello, our web proxy for 400 users (actually at the moment less than 100, but we are going to switch the others to use it soon) is slow. It is a HP Proliant DL385 running OpenBSD 4.4-stable with the squid-2.7.STABLE3 from packages (dmesg below). Does anybody please have a good advice how to find