Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Brian Shackelford
rg Subject: Re: Opteron 250 Overheating On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:02:50AM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote: > If you do take it apart, make sure you have some heatsink grease > on-hand, as the factory stuff may look (and function) like dried > toothpaste. Don't spend extra on "speci

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:02:50AM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote: > If you do take it apart, make sure you have some heatsink grease > on-hand, as the factory stuff may look (and function) like dried > toothpaste. Don't spend extra on "special" grease, it doesn't really > make a difference. L

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/15/2010 5:47 AM, Ludo Smissaert wrote: Yes that is true. My laptop started shutting down with a "Terminal overexposure" message every time is on longer than an hour, a year after I bought it. I run OpenBSD, but a friend of mine has exactly the same laptop always running Windows and has the s

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Ludo Smissaert
Lars Nooden wrote: The ln2 reservoir may be empty. Those dry out quickly even when the machine is not in use. Interesting, did not know that. Probably designed to run empty after two years or so. Guess I can't have it refilled at the drugstore ;) Seriously, do you find a different using the

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-15 11:47 AM, Ludo Smissaert wrote: > ... Now I can still use it, longer than 30 minutes. To use it really > on my lap, is impossible, both my lap and the top will burn ;) The ln2 reservoir may be empty. Those dry out quickly even when the machine is not in use. Seriously, do you find

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-15 Thread Ludo Smissaert
Nick Holland wrote: something is wrong. Any good computer, surely any server, should be able to run at 100% proc load indefinitely, regardless of the OS. Some laptops will have issues with this test, maybe some junky home-oriented machines might, Yes that is true. My laptop started shutting d

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Nick Holland
Jeff Ross wrote: ... > As a followup, here's what I have done to try to alleviate this: > > I bought and installed the plastic air shroud using the passive > heatsinks that came with the motherboard. System still overheats and > shuts down within a couple of minutes. > > I bought 2 AMD brand

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/14/2010 5:36 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote: And I thought your suggestion was intentional... http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2009-12/chinese-woman-surgically-switches-fingerprints-evade-japanese-immigation-officers If Bruce O'Neel is a Japanese woman, then I apologize yet again.

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Paul M
On 15/03/2010, at 10:10 AM, Steve Shockley wrote: On 3/14/2010 4:11 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote: Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave a blister. True, but even with 100C core temps the heat sink will probably be nowhere close to that. My apologies if following my

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:10:07 -0400 Steve Shockley wrote: > On 3/14/2010 4:11 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote: > > Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave > > a blister. > > True, but even with 100C core temps the heat sink will probably be > nowhere close to that. > > My ap

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/14/2010 4:11 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote: Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave a blister. True, but even with 100C core temps the heat sink will probably be nowhere close to that. My apologies if following my advice would have changed your thumbprint.

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Bruce O'Neel
Time how fast the blister forms on your right thumb. Repeat multiple trials with your left thumb on a temp calbrated hot plate. There's your answer. Seriously, 40s should feel hot. 80s should burn. 100s should leave a blister. cheers bruce On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ros

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/14/2010 2:53 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: I think I'll pass on this one. If the motherboard sensors are that far off I don't want the server online anyway. Agreed, but I think the sensors are in the CPU. If you happen to have a meter and thermocouple laying around, or one of those IR thermometer

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Jeff Ross
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, STeve Andre' wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2010 14:31:28 Bret S. Lambert wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote: Steve Shockley wrote: On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly the

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread STeve Andre'
On Sunday 14 March 2010 14:31:28 Bret S. Lambert wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote: > > Steve Shockley wrote: > > >On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: > > >>I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly > > >>these processors should not

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:50:56AM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote: > Steve Shockley wrote: > >On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: > >>I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly > >>these processors should not exceed 71 deg C but I see temps near that at > >>inear dle. > > >

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Jeff Ross
Steve Shockley wrote: On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly these processors should not exceed 71 deg C but I see temps near that at inear dle. If your next one does the same thing, it might be interesting to see if the

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-14 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/13/2010 5:27 PM, Jeff Ross wrote: I'm at a loss as what to try next. If I've read the AMD specs correctly these processors should not exceed 71 deg C but I see temps near that at inear dle. If your next one does the same thing, it might be interesting to see if the processor temp is actua

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-13 Thread Jeff Ross
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Ross Cameron wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Jeff Ross wrote: Jeff Ross wrote: Henning Brauer wrote: * Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. B The cpus have passive heatsin

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-13 Thread Ross Cameron
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Jeff Ross wrote: > Jeff Ross wrote: >> >> Henning Brauer wrote: >>> >>> * Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. B The cpus have passive heatsinks, it is in a

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-13 Thread Jeff Ross
Jeff Ross wrote: Henning Brauer wrote: * Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks, it is in a supermicro 2U chassis with 4 front fans. do you have the air shroud? this plastic t

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-04 Thread Denny White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:01:13AM +1100, Rod Whitworth spoke thusly: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 06:18:30 -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > >> > >> I had this problem before, an old Cereal box + Scissors + tape fixed > >> it right up. But your mileage may

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-04 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 06:18:30 -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: >> >> I had this problem before, an old Cereal box + Scissors + tape fixed >> it right up. But your mileage may vary > >I'm Jealous! --I've always wanted a cereal console. And now you are a cereal offender! *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC m

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-04 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:53 AM, daniel wrote: > On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:18 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:57:22 -0800 "Christopher Ahrens" >> wrote: >> > Henning Brauer wrote: >> >> * Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: >>> >>> I bought a replacement supermicro mot

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-04 Thread daniel
On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:18 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:57:22 -0800 "Christopher Ahrens" wrote: Henning Brauer wrote: * Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks,

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-04 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:57:22 -0800 "Christopher Ahrens" wrote: > >> Henning Brauer wrote: > >> >* Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: > >> >>I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that > >> >>has dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks, > >> >>it is in a supermicro

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-03 Thread Christopher Ahrens
>> Henning Brauer wrote: >> >* Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: >> >>I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has >> >>dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks, it is in >> >>a supermicro 2U chassis with 4 front fans. >> > >> >do you have the air shroud? this

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-03 Thread Henning Brauer
* Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 17:48]: > Henning Brauer wrote: > >* Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: > >>I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has > >>dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks, it is in > >>a supermicro 2U chassis with 4 front fans. > > > >do you h

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-02 Thread Andy Hayward
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 15:53, Jeff Ross wrote: > Opterons are new to me. B Have I already damaged the CPU? B I can get an > couple of active CPU heatsinks to replace the passive ones but if that chip > is already damaged I'd rather lose some more time and return the motherboard > while I still can

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-02 Thread Jeff Ross
Henning Brauer wrote: * Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks, it is in a supermicro 2U chassis with 4 front fans. do you have the air shroud? this plastic thing that forms a

Re: Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-02 Thread Henning Brauer
* Jeff Ross [2010-03-02 16:59]: > I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has > dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks, it is in > a supermicro 2U chassis with 4 front fans. do you have the air shroud? this plastic thing that forms a "tunnel" over the he

Opteron 250 Overheating

2010-03-02 Thread Jeff Ross
I bought a replacement supermicro motherboard off fleabay that has dual Opteron 250 @2.4GHz. The cpus have passive heatsinks, it is in a supermicro 2U chassis with 4 front fans. After a couple of minutes of running at essentially idle (I was in single user mode reconfiguring /etc/fstab to com