good day to you all,
first of all, my cds (the case intact) and t-shirt arrived (thanks Wim).
flawless.
but.
it gets better. perhaps some of you are familiar with
net-security.org and their (in)secure magazine.
in their last issue they had a couple of books to give out
for the simple question
I tell people of the joy of puffy everywhere I go, at the busstop I shout
"THEY CALLED IT BSD AND OPEN BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS FREE"
Seriously though, I now recommend OpenBSD to everyone as a firewall/server
system for those migrating from that redmond thing. As a desktop OS, it's
unfortunately a b
On 31/10/05, Gareth Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tell people of the joy of puffy everywhere I go, at the busstop I shout
> "THEY CALLED IT BSD AND OPEN BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS FREE"
>
> Seriously though, I now recommend OpenBSD to everyone as a firewall/server
> system for those migrating from
Gareth Nelson wrote:
>I tell people of the joy of puffy everywhere I go, at the busstop I shout
>"THEY CALLED IT BSD AND OPEN BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS FREE"
>
>Seriously though, I now recommend OpenBSD to everyone as a firewall/server
>system for those migrating from that redmond thing. As a desktop
Not forking in the strictest sense - pc-bsd is not exactly a fork of FreeBSD
but more a preconfigured installation and some userland X tools to simplify
package management. A nice X frontend for package installation and a modern
window manager, together with some hardware config tools and we'll
From: Andreas Kahari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On 31/10/05, Gareth Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I tell people of the joy of puffy everywhere I go, at the
> busstop I shout
> > "THEY CALLED IT BSD AND OPEN BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS FREE"
> >
> > Seriously though, I now recommend OpenBSD to eve
OpenBSD is great for those who understand how to use it, but not for newbies.
Personally, I had everything I needed installed on my laptop for university
within 30 minutes, it took me all night to setup a windows box for someone.
The average computer user could benefit a lot from the security fe
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Gareth Nelson
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:24 PM
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: a truly openbsd day
>
> OpenBSD is great for those who understand how to use i
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>
> Of
>
> > Gareth Nelson
> > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:24 PM
> > To: misc@openbsd.org
> > Subject: Re: a truly openbsd day
> >
> > OpenBSD is great for those who understand how to use it,
On 10/31/05, Gareth Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately people have been brainwashed with the windows way, being a *nix
> user myself I loved how simple OpenBSD was to setup, but I couldn't picture a
> complete newbie doing it.
>
> snip<
Being a *nix newbie I decided on OpenBSD as I
On 31 Oct 2005, at 18:21, Gareth Nelson wrote:
> Unfortunately people have been brainwashed with the windows way,
> being a *nix
> user myself I loved how simple OpenBSD was to setup, but I couldn't
> picture a
> complete newbie doing it.
I started out on Atari, moved to System 7, then DOS/Wi
> > OpenBSD is great for those who understand how to use it, but not for
> > newbies.
>
> Actually, in the Unix class that I teach at a University, OpenBSD was
> very good for newbies. If you plan to learn Unix instead of trying to
> emulate the Windows way of doing things, OpenBSD is great. The
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Gareth Nelson wrote:
Not forking in the strictest sense - pc-bsd is not exactly a fork of FreeBSD
but more a preconfigured installation and some userland X tools to simplify
package management. A nice X frontend for package installation and a modern
window manager, together
On Oct 31, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Bryan Irvine wrote:
I find that the thought that goes into the entire project, in
particular, the documentation, is actually *easier* on newbies. I
can't tell you how many times I've followed directions to the 'T' and
it didn't work (courier, I'm looking at you ;),
> Perhaps just some documentation that explains how to setup
> OpenBSD for
> desktop use.
> --
> Terry
>
I think it's pretty well documented. If a bone head like me can
figure it out, anyone can!
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Roy Morris wrote:
Perhaps just some documentation that explains how to setup
OpenBSD for
desktop use.
--
Terry
I think it's pretty well documented. If a bone head like me can
figure it out, anyone can!
Heh, OK you got me there, this bone head figured it out too. ;)
--
T
On 10/31/05 20:34, Terry wrote:
Perhaps just some documentation that explains how to setup OpenBSD for
desktop use.
http://openbsdsupport.org/
Look at de KDE and KDM information.
+++chefren
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, chefren wrote:
Look at de KDE and KDM information.
+++chefren
I use blackbox, it's not as bloated as KDE.
--
Terry
>>As a desktop OS, it's unfortunately a bit difficult to setup with everything
>>needed by the average desktop user who doesn't care what their OS is.
>>
>>This makes me wonder - a desktop OpenBSD fork...
>
> Not forking in the strictest sense - pc-bsd is not exactly a fork of FreeBSD
> but more a
> I'd love to see a bootable OpenBSD desktop CD with all applications
> tightly wrapped by systrace, so I don't need to recreate and redistribute
> the boot disk after each new Firefox, GAIM, etc exploit.
It is really unfortunate that I have never seen a perfect systrace
policy. Not once.
Not ev
Howdy Gareth,
On 01/11/2005, at 3:41 AM, Gareth Nelson wrote:
I tell people of the joy of puffy everywhere I go, at the busstop I
shout
"THEY CALLED IT BSD AND OPEN BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS FREE"
And here's to Puffy Hood!
Seriously though, I now recommend OpenBSD to everyone as a firewall/
ser
On 31/10/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>As a desktop OS, it's unfortunately a bit difficult to setup with everything
> >>needed by the average desktop user who doesn't care what their OS is.
> >>
> >>This makes me wonder - a desktop OpenBSD fork...
> >
> > Not forking in the strictest se
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:39:25 +1100, Shane J Pearson wrote:
> What is so difficult? Install a pkg or port, read the pkg_info for it,
> do what it says. If you come across a problem: apropos, Google, MARC...
> If you mean difficult as in "a little more effort" then ok, but it seems
> like a small pr
Hi Uwe,
On 01/11/2005, at 10:36 PM, Uwe Dippel wrote:
Seconded. I still keep thinking that an initial install isn't sooo
difficult. Rather simple, that is.
But when I look at our desktops (> 500), who'll ever do the upgrade
once
per 6 months (or a larger upgrade once per 12 months) ?
Are a
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:37:39 +1100, Shane J Pearson wrote:
>
> Are a large chunk of those 500 mostly the same config but with different
> user data in /home?
No, they are not. Or, better, they wouldn't be.
Organisation, profit or non-profit:
Firstly you have to keep a solution that your support
hmm, on Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 03:05:49PM -0700, Theo de Raadt said that
> > I'd love to see a bootable OpenBSD desktop CD with all applications
> > tightly wrapped by systrace, so I don't need to recreate and redistribute
> > the boot disk after each new Firefox, GAIM, etc exploit.
>
> It is really
--On 31 October 2005 23:32 +0100, frantisek holop wrote:
It is really unfortunate that I have never seen a perfect systrace
policy. Not once.
Not even for small programs like ping.
..
hm. does this mean that systrace is not a good idea anymore?
No, it means people are too lazy, too busy,
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