howto clean disks ?

2005-05-31 Thread Ed White
Hi, I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this automagically ? Thanks.

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-05-31 Thread Adam Papai
Ed White wrote: Hi, I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this automagically ? Thanks. dd if=/dev/zero of=DEVICE_you_want_to_erase -- Adam Papai Digital Influence Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pho

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-05-31 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:36:22 +0200, Ed White wrote: >Hi, > >I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to >delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this >automagically ? > >Thanks. > > dd >From the land "down under": Australia. Do we look from up over?

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-05-31 Thread Anthony Roberts
The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the drive apart in a lab.

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-05-31 Thread Shane J Pearson
Hi Anthony, On 01/06/2005, at 4:01 PM, Anthony Roberts wrote: The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the drive apart in a lab. I think this depends on how you use dd though. If you just do a single pass of zeroes, but fear someone will mount a multi million dollar el

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Kevin
On 6/1/05, Shane J Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/06/2005, at 4:01 PM, Anthony Roberts wrote: >>On 6/1/05, Ed White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to >>> delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this >>>

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Matt Phillips
If you are truly paranoid use DBAN, which is short for Darin's Boot and Nuke. IMO it is the best disk wiping tool out there. It gives you a couple different wiping methods to choose from, including the one used by the US DoD. You can also specify how many passes it makes. According to the

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Nick Holland
Shane J Pearson wrote: > Hi Anthony, > > On 01/06/2005, at 4:01 PM, Anthony Roberts wrote: > >> The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the >> drive apart in a lab. > > I think this depends on how you use dd though. If you just do a single > pass of zeroes, but fear some

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Johan P. Lindström
The military (at least in Sweden) bakes a Trotyl / Pentyl cake with the drives as stuffing, don't know if that would change the magnetic properties but most likely make the process of collecting/organizing the pieces of the same drive quite labourious. I read an article on encasing your drives wit

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Timothy Donahue
On Wednesday 01 June 2005 03:28 am, Matt Phillips wrote: > If you are truly paranoid use DBAN, which is short for Darin's Boot and > Nuke. IMO it is the best disk wiping tool out there. It gives you a > couple different wiping methods to choose from, including the one used > by the US DoD. You

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Anthony Roberts wrote: > The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the > drive apart in a lab. Items required for "sure fire" disk cleaning methodology. qty. 1 hard drive to clean qty. 1 high velocity military rifle I usually use a .223 round, but other

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Timothy Donahue
On Wednesday 01 June 2005 08:06 am, Johan P. Lindstrvm wrote: > The military (at least in Sweden) bakes a Trotyl / Pentyl cake with > the drives as stuffing, don't know if that would change the magnetic > properties but most likely make the process of collecting/organizing > the pieces of the same

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Johan P . Lindström
Thanks Tim!, that was the link I was grepping for at wikipedia, my memory seems to be good but short... =) On 6/1/05, Timothy Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 01 June 2005 08:06 am, Johan P. Lindstrvm wrote: > > The military (at least in Sweden) bakes a Trotyl / Pentyl cake with

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Dennis Lindahl
Once information on a digital media has been overwritten, it cannot be recreated/restored in any lab. All this talk about electron microscopes and overwriting in multiple passes is just a load of crap derived from an old DoD standard. It has no practical meaning. One overwrite is enough. Please let

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Anthony Roberts
> Once information on a digital media has been overwritten, it cannot be > recreated/restored in any lab. All this talk about electron microscopes > and overwriting in multiple passes is just a load of crap derived from > an old DoD standard. It has no practical meaning. One overwrite is > enough.

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Diana Eichert
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Dennis Lindahl wrote: > Once information on a digital media has been overwritten, it cannot be > recreated/restored in any lab. All this talk about electron microscopes > and overwriting in multiple passes is just a load of crap derived from > an old DoD standard. It has no pra

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Antonios Anastasiadis
why don't you try pissing on it. I can gurantee that everyone will forget about reclaiming your super-secret data.Ever. If you are overly-paranoid, as any OBSD user should be, you can try the "heavier" solution which is definitely the(...)

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Chris Zakelj
Diana Eichert wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Anthony Roberts wrote: The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the drive apart in a lab. Items required for "sure fire" disk cleaning methodology. qty. 1 hard drive to clean qty. 1 high velocity military rifle I usually

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Dennis Lindahl
> That is not the case. On magnetic drives, the field can spread beyond > the region > written to by the drive heads, and can be read by a suitably equipped > lab. Reports > on how effective this is and what methods can be used to destroy the data vary, > but it's safe (or rather, it's necessary)

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Diana Eichert
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Dennis Lindahl wrote: SNIP > Like I said, once the information _has_ been overwritten, it cannot be > recovered in any lab. A fellow from IBAS said this during a seminar I > attended recently. He even said it was a fundamental principle for all > professional data recovery. If i

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Joe Snikeris
On 6/1/05, Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Dennis Lindahl wrote: > SNIP > > Like I said, once the information _has_ been overwritten, it cannot be > > recovered in any lab. A fellow from IBAS said this during a seminar I > > attended recently. He even said it was a fu

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread shanejp
Hi Dennis, Quoting Dennis Lindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Once information on a digital media has been overwritten, it cannot be > recreated/restored in any lab. All this talk about electron microscopes > and overwriting in multiple passes is just a load of crap derived from > an old DoD standard.

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-01 Thread Russell Fulton
> > Once information on a digital media has been overwritten, it cannot be > > recreated/restored in any lab. All this talk about electron microscopes > > and overwriting in multiple passes is just a load of crap derived from > > an old DoD standard. It has no practical meaning. One overwrite is >

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-02 Thread Baldur Sigurðsson
Ed White wrote: Hi, I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this automagically ? Thanks. Can't you just have the hole partition encrypted, I've never actually encountered information about how to do

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-02 Thread Guðni Þ. Björgvinsson
Baldur Sigurpsson wrote: Ed White wrote: Hi, I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this automagically ? Thanks. Can't you just have the hole partition encrypted, I've never actually encountered i

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-02 Thread Matt Phillips
The OP is donating old hard disks and wants to ensure his data is non-recoverable. Why in the hell would he encrypt the disk before giving it away? You and the next are way off topic. Someone stick a fork in this thread; I think it's done. - Matt Baldur Sigurpsson wrote: Ed White wrote:

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-02 Thread Andy Hayward
Ed White wrote: Hi, I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this automagically ? badblocks -s -v -w I usually keep a Knoppix CD around for this purpose, but its also available in the e2fsprogs port.

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-02 Thread Tony
EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: howto clean disks ? Ed White wrote: >Hi, > >I'm going to give away some old hard disks and I'm planning to >delete/overwrite all the data on them. Is there any tool to make this >automagically ? > > badblocks -s -v

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-03 Thread Ian Delahorne
Diana Eichert wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Anthony Roberts wrote: The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the drive apart in a lab. Items required for "sure fire" disk cleaning methodology. qty. 1 hard drive to clean qty. 1 high velocity military rifle I usually use

Re: howto clean disks ?

2005-06-04 Thread Sparc Urani
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:25:55 +1000 > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: howto clean disks ? > > Hi Anthony, > > On 01/06/2005, at 4:01 PM, Anthony Roberts wrote: > > > The 'dd' way is good e