Paul
Yep, that is definitely the authorative source.
I've been using archive.org for a couple decades that I forget openbsd.org
website uses CVS.
73
On February 8, 2022 9:11:56 AM MST, Paul de Weerd wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 08:54:08AM -0700, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
>| Try archiv
On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 08:54:08AM -0700, deich...@placebonol.com wrote:
| Try archive.org for older versions of openbsd.org.
Or just the CVS repository. The openbsd.org website is under revision
control, there's 26 years of history available over at
http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/www/
You
Try archive.org for older versions of openbsd.org.
On February 8, 2022 8:39:46 AM MST, Ibsen S Ripsbusker
wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, at 15:25, Nick Holland wrote:
>> Probably be one of these two pages, I think:
>>
>> https://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
>> https://www.openbsd.org/policy.html
>>
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, at 15:25, Nick Holland wrote:
> Probably be one of these two pages, I think:
>
> https://www.openbsd.org/goals.html
> https://www.openbsd.org/policy.html
>
> I call it the "Microsoft Question": which do you fear more?
> 1) That MS uses your code and profits from your work
>
On 2/6/22 11:57 PM, Ibsen S Ripsbusker wrote:
My great and good friends,
Like 20 years ago while trying to install OpenBSD
for the first time I read a short passage in OpenBSD
documentation that I really liked. Does anyone know
where I can find it?
The passage that said very directly that we li
My great and good friends,
Like 20 years ago while trying to install OpenBSD
for the first time I read a short passage in OpenBSD
documentation that I really liked. Does anyone know
where I can find it?
The passage that said very directly that we license OpenBSD
permissively because we know our s
On 2013-06-22, William Orr wrote:
> I currently have an untested (I'm going to spin up some EC2 instances to
> do testing this weekend) start on a port to linux on GitHub:
> https://github.com/worr/spamd
>
> So my questions:
> Is there anything else I need to do to make sure that I'm kosher with
Hello,
I'm a mail administrator for a student group at my alma mater, RIT.
We're not particularly satisfied with our current greylisting software
(gld), and the best alternative (hell, the best greylisting software,
hands down) is spamd.
Unfortunately, none of the other sysadmins want to mai
2013/2/22 Theo de Raadt :
> It is not allowed.
I thought the same.
So https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Openbsd2.svg is really a violation?
Best
Martin
ad for
> http://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/q/1105/9454 for OpenBSD with an
> image from http://www.openbsd.org/art2.html
>
> One of the conditions is that the images must be uploaded to their
> network (via imgur), which requires a licensing as CC-BY-SA.
>
> This doesn't seem to be compatibl
Hi,
I'm thinking about creating a community ad for
http://meta.unix.stackexchange.com/q/1105/9454 for OpenBSD with an
image from http://www.openbsd.org/art2.html
One of the conditions is that the images must be uploaded to their
network (via imgur), which requires a licensing as CC-BY-SA.
On 2013 Jan 07 (Mon) at 23:50:04 -0800 (-0800), noah pugsley wrote:
So what? This is radically off-topic, please don't bring this kind of
crap to misc@.
--
You may be sure that when a man begins to call himself a "realist," he
is preparing to do something he is secretly ashamed of doing.
> I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy
> page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says:
>
> Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July
> 1999. Verbatim copies of the Berkeley license in the OpenBSD tree have
> that term removed.
That
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 06:28:21PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:23:13AM -0700, Aaron Patterson wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy
> > page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says:
> >
> > Berkeley rescinded
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:23:13AM -0700, Aaron Patterson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy
> page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says:
>
> Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July
> 1999. Verbatim copies of
Hi!
I have a question about the license for bcrypt.c. The OpenBSD policy
page (http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html) says:
Berkeley rescinded the 3rd term (the advertising term) on 22 July
1999. Verbatim copies of the Berkeley license in the OpenBSD tree have
that term removed. In addition,
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:25 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
> > If I have clean licensing on everything, can
> > I then ask for addition to the tree?
> >
>
> Of course you can ask, and if the port is both well done and well
> tested, then someone else might have enough
; > ports@, and do *NOT* expect (or ask for) it to be added to the
> > OpenBSD ports tree.
> >
> >
> What about a completely unrelated project?
>
I do not understand your question.
> If I have clean licensing on everything, can
> I then ask for addition to the tre
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:52:55 -0600
Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >
> > There's non-free software in the ports tree.
>
> Not in a real sense. The ports tree is a build infrastructure
> containing Makefiles, lists of files and where they should go, and (in
> a perfect world, continously shrinking) minim
own, posting your updates to ports@, and do
> *NOT* expect (or ask for) it to be added to the OpenBSD ports tree.
>
>
What about a completely unrelated project?
If I have clean licensing on everything, can
I then ask for addition to the tree?
Or should I just neatly post to ports@ and se
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:57:40 -0600 Ted Roby wrote:
> Now, did umplawny have the original right to put his restricted
> code into a project that was much more loosely licensed?
>
> If he did not, can I use his improperly licensed code (ie. does he
> forfeit his license by superseding restrictions
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Henning Brauer wrote:
>
> find all(!) copyright holders and have them agree to a new license. or
> don't use that code.
>
>
There are at least three projects involved here.
1. The Diku project
2. The Merc project
3. The "Forsaken Lands" project
The Diku and Merc
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Pfaff wrote:
> There's non-free software in the ports tree.
Good thing it's in ports, then. Keeps that shady license where we can
see it, and choose to suffer with it or not.
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600
> Ted Roby wrote:
> >
> > I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing
> > schemes in the Ports tree.
> >
>
> There's non-free software in the ports tree.
Not in a real sense. The ports tree
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:35 -0600
Ted Roby wrote:
>
> I didn't think OpenBSD was even interested in such licensing
> schemes in the Ports tree.
>
There's non-free software in the ports tree.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> > So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
> > code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
>
> I don't suppose you've stopped to a
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
> code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
I don't suppose you've stopped to ask if the OpenBSD project is at all
interested in whatever code you feel like contributing?
at's what I'm interested in! I don't mind being that
> lightning rod at all. Thank you for valid information which
> may resurrect my hopes.
>
> So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
> code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
find a
...
Now that's what I'm interested in! I don't mind being that
lightning rod at all. Thank you for valid information which
may resurrect my hopes.
So how does that work with OpenBSD? How to I introduce
code with shady licensing, and take all the brunt of it?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
>
>
> As for the personal attacks, you can print off this email,
> fold it until it's all corners, and shove it up your ass.
>
>
Now that was far longer than your first one-liner smackdown.
Good job.
on of "I really liked this original
implementation, and I'm looking for others interested in re-implementing
under less restrictive licensing."
So let's drill through things.
1) Did you actually attempt to track down who might be using
a umplawny email address at university of man
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> > I got more help from the first poster who suggested using
> > Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to
> > to this modified Rom code, and perhaps committed the
> > error of g
On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> I got more help from the first poster who suggested using
> Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to
> to this modified Rom code, and perhaps committed the
> error of getting my hopes up.
You just weren't to to clear in your first p
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Bryan wrote:
>
> I thought "nothing" was "zero", and NUL was the absence of nothing...
>
Wouldn't NULL be the absence of everything, including numerical 0?
Dropping the semantics I'd have to say this thread is NULL, and yet
it is full of... well, whatever tha
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Paul M wrote:
>
> Please clarify what you want from this list.
>
>
Peace, Love and Understanding.
Yeah right..
I got more help from the first poster who suggested using
Circle Mud instead. The problem is, I was quite attached to
to this modified Rom code, and pe
On 15/04/2010, at 8:16 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
I had googled all of this before my first post.
In fact, I have been in contact with the current
maintainers of the project. They have explicit
permission, but that doesn't give me explicit
permission.
Ok, now I'm confused.
You've been ranting for a
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
>> You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even
>> googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny.
>>
>
> So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy at EA? And more
> important
On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
You blew off on this message board assuming I hadn't even
googled, or found our friend Voytek Plawny.
So? Inquiring minds want to know! *Is* he the guy at EA? And more
importantly, is he still a dick?
Sean
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> You're kidding us, right? You can't bother to google something so
> basic, you complain when someone points you in the right direction,
> make a quick detour for a spelling flame, then act like it'd be way
> more work to email a couple of guys ra
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
>> Please tell me what I should do with his permission?
>>
>> At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code.
>> At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in all the associated
>> files
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
>
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Ted Roby wrote:
Please tell me what I should do with his permission?
At best, he can let me host my own mud with his code.
At worst, he must rewrite his entire license in all the associated
files.
Now *that* is an interesting question. As the original author, the
I reluctantly reply to the entire list, even though you copied me
personally...
I don't care about finding the original "auther".
He left behind licensing which forbids its application in Open Source.
Please tell me what I should do with his permission?
At best, he can let me
On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath
wrote:
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Sean Kamath wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
>>>
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
>>> */
>>>
>>> http://lmgt
On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
/* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
*/
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
> > /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca
> */
>
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
>
> I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company.
> --
> Chris Dukes
>
Are you
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:21:53AM -0600, Ted Roby wrote:
> /* umpla...@cc.umanitoba.ca */
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=plawny+umanitoba
I think you'll find a good idea of who to write care of which company.
--
Chris Dukes
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ted Roby wrote:
> Time for me to write OpenMUD?
I've had fond memories of CircleMud, and I believe the maintainer is
still around.
--
http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
"This officer's men seem to follow him merely o
Hi list.
I've spent some time porting one of my favorite dungeon
games (a Rom 2.6 derivative). I've only begun this project,
but have already converted 1700+ lines as such:
strcat -> strlcat
strcpy -> strlcpy
sprintf -> snprintf
Much to my disappointment, I may have to rewrite large portions
befor
Benjamin Adams wrote on Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:21:31PM -0400:
> I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing.
> I'm looking to build a product using:
> OpenBSD
> MySQL
Note that the MySQL client libraries are licenced under the GPL, not
under the LGPL, with an explicit
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Benjamin Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing. I'm looking to build
> a product using:
> OpenBSD
> Tomcat
> MySQL
> Java
>
> I know OpenBSD is do what you want. Anyone know wh
I'm looking for some clarification on Licensing. I'm looking to build
a product using:
OpenBSD
Tomcat
MySQL
Java
I know OpenBSD is do what you want. Anyone know what sun says for licensing?
I'm looking to sell this product for profit which will help me give
back to OpenBSD :)
A
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 12:50:04AM -0400, Ernesto Bascon wrote:
> Hi everybody:
>
> I do not want to start a flamewar about licensing and hope some
> concrete answers to my questions (maybe I seem aggressive, I am not at
> all :) ).
>
> I want to develop an OpenBSD spec
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 15:09 +0930, Adam Hawes wrote:
> It's your code. You could license it any way you please, even
> charging people for it,
Commercial ("charging people for") distribution is a different issue
than the license itself. Please don't confuse the two.
> as long as it can't be cons
> 2. OpenBSD is known as a very anti-GPL project... so, what would be
> the OpenBSD position on front of some LGPL code implemented
> specifically for OpenBSD?
Well Ernesto, OpenBSD doesn't really care what you do with your own
code, regardless of what platform it is developed for. You can put it
Hi,
> I want to develop an OpenBSD specific set of libraries, implementing
> it on C++ and using the LGPL or the Classpath::License licenses for my
> code (both are almost identical). Well, I will be the initial owner of
> my code and I can do (again, initially) anything with it, but:
It's your c
Ernesto Bascon wrote:
I want to develop an OpenBSD specific set of libraries, implementing
it on C++ and using the LGPL or the Classpath::License licenses for my
code (both are almost identical). Well, I will be the initial owner of
my code and I can do (again, initially) anything with it, but:
Hi everybody:
I do not want to start a flamewar about licensing and hope some
concrete answers to my questions (maybe I seem aggressive, I am not at
all :) ).
I want to develop an OpenBSD specific set of libraries, implementing
it on C++ and using the LGPL or the Classpath::License licenses for
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marrandy wrote on Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:56:44AM -0400:
[...]
> The key component is that source should be open.
> If you can't provide source then API's have to be open
In similar arguments, it might even be better to argue just the
other way round: Please provide hardware and firmware document
erial which includes copyrights which are more
restrictive than the Berkeley copyright, or must relegate this material to a
secondary status, i.e. OpenBSD as a whole is freely redistributable, but some
optional components may not be."
A number of applications have been culled from Ope
Dear Mr. Awad:
As a recent purchaser of a brand-new Intel 965 motherboard with Core
2 Duo chip I am very
pleased with the product, but disappointed with news from my favorite
Open Source community,
the OpenBSD community (http://www.openbsd.org) that Intel's licensing
schemes fall sho
> "Luckily within a few months you will be able to tell Sendmail how
> to disclose their bugs because their next version is going to come
> out with a much more commercial licence. Then you can pay for it,
> and then you can complain too."
>
> Is this a hint that there might be a license issues th
No, this isn't another "Sendmail needs to be replaced because there was
a security hole" email. I was following the thread on BugTraq regarding
the Sendmail vulnerability, and saw this from Theo (Mar 24 2006):
"Luckily within a few months you will be able to tell Sendmail how
to disclose their bu
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