Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 03:00 +0100, poncenby wrote: > Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 07:33 +0100, poncenby wrote: > > > >>May I suggest some tolerance(doesn't have to be sincere) for people > >>who are simply either too busy or too lazy to read man pages in their > >>entirety. or

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Roger Neth Jr
From: poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: syslogd udp port Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 03:15:07 +0100 Abraham Al-Saleh wrote: On 8/5/05, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Firstly I never said mentioned the word security, so I don't know where Tobias

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Lars Hansson
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 03:15:07 +0100 poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just doesn't make sense. i wanted an answer within a day, didn't have > time to read the man pages so posted a question to misc and got an > answer (within a day). What *you* want is rather irrelevant. > When i post to mis

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread ddp
On 8/5/05, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you think about what you said... > > "in the long run it's usually faster to do research" > > just doesn't make sense. i wanted an answer within a day, didn't have > time to read the man pages so posted a question to misc and got an > answer (w

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread poncenby
Abraham Al-Saleh wrote: On 8/5/05, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Firstly I never said mentioned the word security, so I don't know where Tobias got that from. I apologise once again for not searching the archives and reading the man pages. May I suggest some tolerance(doesn't have to be

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread poncenby
Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 07:33 +0100, poncenby wrote: May I suggest some tolerance(doesn't have to be sincere) for people who are simply either too busy or too lazy to read man pages in their entirety. or just simply ignore the email. surely certain people on this list (the

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread imEnsion
haha, henning.. i love your technical responses to problems. they're always very short, sweet and to the point (and you're 99.999% of the time right). if i could make it to a hackathon (or even get invited, heh) i'd buy a round of beer for everyone to calm the *&%# down :P On 8/5/05, Henning Br

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 12:58:04PM +0200, mdff wrote: > blah blah... > he'd better do man syslogd... but assume this: > - no pf for udp/514. > - a DOS or DDOS to this OPEN port. To DOS or DDOS a udp port it does not need to be open. > - syslogd running just in "send mode". > - and finally: no

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Henning Brauer
syslog shutdown()s the port for reading. there is no real difference to not opening it at all. * mdff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-05 13:13]: > blah blah... > he'd better do man syslogd... but assume this: > - no pf for udp/514. > - a DOS or DDOS to this OPEN port. > - syslogd running just i

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread mdff
blah blah... he'd better do man syslogd... but assume this: - no pf for udp/514. - a DOS or DDOS to this OPEN port. - syslogd running just in "send mode". - and finally: no remote syslogging configured because of only 1 box here. will it take more ressources to handle this with an open port co

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Abraham Al-Saleh
On 8/5/05, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Firstly I never said mentioned the word security, so I don't know where > Tobias got that from. > > I apologise once again for not searching the archives and reading the > man pages. > > May I suggest some tolerance(doesn't have to be sincere) for

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 8/4/05, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember asking how to stop syslogd opening udp port 514 a while ago > and never doing anything about it, here goes again... better yet just compile your own version of nmap that doesnt scan udp 514.

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 07:33 +0100, poncenby wrote: > > May I suggest some tolerance(doesn't have to be sincere) for people > who are simply either too busy or too lazy to read man pages in their > entirety. or just simply ignore the email. surely certain people on > this list (theo - that's you!)

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
> May I suggest some tolerance(doesn't have to be sincere) for people who > are simply either too busy or too lazy to read man pages in their > entirety. Absolutely not. You were lazy and unwilling to educate yourself, and are making other people watch you sluffing your way through life.

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-04 Thread poncenby
Firstly I never said mentioned the word security, so I don't know where Tobias got that from. I apologise once again for not searching the archives and reading the man pages. May I suggest some tolerance(doesn't have to be sincere) for people who are simply either too busy or too lazy to rea

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-04 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:58 -0600, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The port is also used to (potentially) send data out to other syslog >servers. Therefore, it is left open. This is made ASTOUNDINGLY >clear in the manual page, if you would read it: > > syslogd opens the above desc

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-04 Thread Kevin
On 8/4/05, poncenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember asking how to stop syslogd opening udp port 514 a while ago > and never doing anything about it, here goes again... Sure, syslogd opens UDP/514, but unless you use the '-u' flag the very next thing it does is call shutdown(), which preven

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-04 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Thursday, August 4, poncenby wrote: > > I remember asking how to stop syslogd opening udp port 514 a while ago > and never doing anything about it, here goes again... And people asked you to search the archives. > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address(state) >

Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
The port is also used to (potentially) send data out to other syslog servers. Therefore, it is left open. This is made ASTOUNDINGLY clear in the manual page, if you would read it: syslogd opens the above described socket whether or not it is running in secure mode. If syslogd is runni

syslogd udp port

2005-08-04 Thread poncenby
I remember asking how to stop syslogd opening udp port 514 a while ago and never doing anything about it, here goes again... hopefully a relevant part of /etc/rc echo 'starting system logger' rm -f /dev/log if [ "X${named_flags}" != X"NO" ]; then rm -f /var/named/dev/log syslogd