[Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Howdy - On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 system and installed SuSE 9.2 (64bit). Uneventful install but there were a few issues with rebuilding a few apps (all but one have been resolved - can't get Ogle to build so I'll use Xine inste

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Roine Gustafsson
On Feb 12, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Steven M. Schultz wrote: Howdy - On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 system and installed SuSE 9.2 (64bit). Uneventful install but there were a few issues with rebuilding a few apps (all but one have been reso

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Gert Vervoort
Roine Gustafsson wrote: 64bit is generally slower than 32bit. The only benefit of 64bit is non-segmented addressing of several gigabytes of data. If you don't need that then 64 bit adressing is just overhead. On x86-64 they did not only change from 32 bit to 64 bit, but they also doubled the num

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Amaury Jacquot
Roine Gustafsson wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Steven M. Schultz wrote: Howdy - On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 system and installed SuSE 9.2 (64bit). Uneventful install but there were a few issues with rebuilding a few apps (all but one have been

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Roine Gustafsson
On Feb 12, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Amaury Jacquot wrote: 64bit is generally slower than 32bit. The only benefit of 64bit is non-segmented addressing of several gigabytes of data. If you don't need that then 64 bit adressing is just overhead. no it's not. 64 bit on a 32 bit processor is smaller because

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread raray
I've been looking into getting just such a machine to replace my dual 1GHz PIII. How about posting your system specs. Richard Ray On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > Howdy - > > On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 > system and installed SuSE 9.

Re: Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread e.chalaron
Gday Roine Well ... If I follow, it sounds to be better off with a couple of nice 32 bits in cluster mode than a 64 ?? E just end user > Therefore, applications that do not use the larger addressing space > won't be any faster on a "64 bit operating system". If anything, it > just means 2x t

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Roine Gustafsson
A good 64bit CPU (64 bit data) in a 32 bit OS (32 bit address space) will be faster. However, I'll wager the cluster of 32bit beige boxes would be more bang for the buck than a honkin' 64 bit Bigiron UltraPower. Atleast for rendering. Weta used a cluster of 2.8Ghz Xeons, for probably very well

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > But clusters are difficult. They eat lots of electricity and put out > vast amounts of heat. They are also quite difficult to administrate and > only specific tasks scale well. Very true. Some things (dealing with weather data) scale well

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > Interesting. What was the off-the-shelf price for the Opteron? The At the time the Opteron-250 cpu was $825. Or were you thinking of the complete system price? I didn't buy a complete system - just a motherboard/cpu/memo

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Amaury Jacquot wrote: > >> The Opteron-250 with its 2.4GHz clock is about *2X* faster > >> than the > >> 2GHz G5/PPC system I have! What took 34 hours to run on the G5 > >> (or the > > is that G5 PPC dual processor or not ? Of course. I haven't (wit

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Amaury Jacquot
Steven M. Schultz wrote: if yes, you may want to hack it so that it locks each thread to a particular processor, taking into account the data transfers between I think the benefits of pinning are over rated - and it's not portable (different systems either do it differently or don't support it

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Dave Dodge
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 07:16:12PM +0100, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > However, I'll wager the cluster of 32bit beige boxes would be more bang > for the buck than a honkin' 64 bit Bigiron UltraPower. Atleast for > rendering. An off the shelf Opteron or G5 will be a lot cheaper than the same amount

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Dave Dodge
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 11:36:27AM -0800, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > > It's an urban myth that 64bit is faster than 32bit, like people assume > > a 2GHz computer is twice as fast as a 1GHz computer. > > It's also an urban myth that 64bit is slo

Re: Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread e.chalaron
Gday I think I am gonna be a pain again. Following the setup of my telecine machine and further readings (yes, I did RTFM on this one), it appears that a movie media made of several layers does not have the same granularity (which does obably apply on classic still cameras as well). The blue la