Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Jonathan Woithe wrote: ... > The datastream sent keeps the field order of the original footage. When > constructing the yuv4pmeg2 stream, cinelerra by default appears to assume > top-field-first which, while perhaps being appropriate for NTSC-land (which

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Jonathan Woithe
Nicolas wrote: > > > > hmmm - Cinelerra getting the field order wrong? > > > > > > Exactly. At least with the SVN version I fetched 1 month ago. ... Note that at least in cinelerra 2.0 there's an checkbox in the "mpeg2" rendering dialog box which says something like "bottom first field o

Re: [Mjpeg-users] I tried 9600 kbps for video and 224 kbps for audio

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > Huh? It's written in the manpage of mplex: > -V|--vbr > Set variable bit rate multiplexing. This is needed to multiplex > variable bit-rate video streams correctly. Right - but '-f 8' implies VBR ;) > I don't apply any filter. I spent 2 even

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Digital Video to DVD conversion tools

2006-04-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnick
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 04:22:06PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:38 -0700, Roman Shaposhnick wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:59:31PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > > > > > > http://florin.myip.org/soft/conv-dvd/ > > > > It seems that you use transcode for decodin

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Digital Video to DVD conversion tools

2006-04-06 Thread Florin Andrei
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:38 -0700, Roman Shaposhnick wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:59:31PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > > > > http://florin.myip.org/soft/conv-dvd/ > > It seems that you use transcode for decoding DV. Also I think > that transcode still uses libdv. Which means that yo

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > When you've determined the bitrate, how do you choose the value for -q ? Pick a number between 2 and 8 :-) There are higher values (up to 31) but in practice they're not used (not often). Folks think of "-q" as being "quality" and in

Re: [Mjpeg-users] I tried 9600 kbps for video and 224 kbps for audio

2006-04-06 Thread Nicolas
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 03:47:15PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > It's not hurting anything (or helping ;)) but -V isn't necessary. Huh? It's written in the manpage of mplex: -V|--vbr Set variable bit rate multiplexing. This is needed to multiplex

Re: [Mjpeg-users] I tried 9600 kbps for video and 224 kbps for audio

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > OK. I just re-rendered the video, using 9600kbps for video and 224 for > audio, and I still get the same result : > mplex -f 8 -V 02.ac3 02.m2v -o 02.mpeg It's not hurting anything (or helping ;)) but -V isn't necessary. >INFO: [mplex] rough-guess m

[Mjpeg-users] I tried 9600 kbps for video and 224 kbps for audio

2006-04-06 Thread Nicolas
OK. I just re-rendered the video, using 9600kbps for video and 224 for audio, and I still get the same result : mplex -f 8 -V 02.ac3 02.m2v -o 02.mpeg INFO: [mplex] mplex version 1.8.0 (2.2.4 $Date: 2005/08/28 17:50:54 $) INFO: [mplex] File 02.ac3 looks like an AC3 Audio stream. INFO: [mplex] File

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Frame data under-runs when mplexing VBR

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > Thanks for the help. I'm not re-running my Cinelerra rendering batch. Oh, I thought perhaps you were rendering to an intermediate file so you could re-run the encoding step without having to re-render everything. > The problem did no

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Digital Video to DVD conversion tools

2006-04-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnick
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:59:31PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > Based on mpeg2enc: > > http://florin.myip.org/soft/conv-dvd/ > > Feel free to use them. Comments are welcome. It seems that you use transcode for decoding DV. Also I think that transcode still uses libdv. Which means that you

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Frame data under-runs when mplexing VBR

2006-04-06 Thread Nicolas
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:55:19PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > > > And unfortunately, I now get a frame data under-runs, which I did not > > have before. The problem occurs only if I use the -q option in the mpeg2enc > > I think the problem is

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Frame data under-runs when mplexing VBR

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > And unfortunately, I now get a frame data under-runs, which I did not > have before. The problem occurs only if I use the -q option in the mpeg2enc I think the problem is the same - but the symptom has shifted slightly because the input is (s

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Nicolas
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:39:52PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > As an added "bonus tip" - here's quick and easy guesstimator for > bitrate calculation. Assumes 1 audio (224Kb/s) and 1 video track, > a few percent of the DVD capacity is reserved for menus, subtitles, >

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, John Gay wrote: > But I want a magic "use this for high quality" switch! How many $/Euro/... do you have? :-) > Eliminate the shaking of my home videos? y4mstabilizer might be what you're looking for. > Restore cut-off heads, feet, whatever?

[Mjpeg-users] Frame data under-runs when mplexing VBR

2006-04-06 Thread Nicolas
Hello, I modified the mpeg2enc command line I use to encode my Cinelerra videos. Now, it's: /usr/bin/yuvcorrect -v 0 -T INTERLACED_BOTTOM_FIRST | /usr/bin/yuvscaler -v 0 -I ACTIVE_702x560+8+8 -M BICUBIC | /usr/bin/mpeg2enc -v 0 -r 32 -4 1 -2 1 -D 10 -g 6 -G 15 -q 4 -b 9600 -f 8 -o $1 The audio s

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread John Gay
On Thursday 06 April 2006 18:03, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > Compression is an art form - there is no magic "use this > for high quality". But I want a magic "use this for high quality" switch! Can't I please have a magic switch? I think it would make my videos so much better without me

[Mjpeg-users] Digital Video to DVD conversion tools

2006-04-06 Thread Florin Andrei
Based on mpeg2enc: http://florin.myip.org/soft/conv-dvd/ Feel free to use them. Comments are welcome. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends app

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Christian Ebert wrote: > What about -H|--keep-hf ? Supposing I just want highest quality? I think it would be a good idea to define "highest quality" ;) The same type of request/desire comes up a lot on a couple forums I lurk in. It's often in the fo

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > Well, I sent an email to the mailing-list. It's now easy to get in touch > with the developers. I think that bug will be quickly solved, if it's Interesting - at one time there was just 1 developer and he was impossible to contact. > Well, in

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Nicolas
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 04:59:50PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > > hmmm - Cinelerra getting the field order wrong? > > > > Exactly. At least with the SVN version I fetched 1 month ago. There's a > > Ouch. One would think a problem like that would be fixed quickly, but > Cinel

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Christian Ebert wrote: > >> 1 -V 1853 -s -D 1 0 -g 6 -G 15 -I 1 -b 9800 -D 10 -f 8 -o $1 > > Does -g 3 make sense in case one has high motion scenes? Probably not a big difference. The lower limit is mainly used by mpeg2enc's dynamic GOP sizing logic. If 6

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Christian Ebert
* Steven M. Schultz on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 at 11:31:29 -0700: > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: > Let's play "find the be incorrect options" game :) ok :) >> 1 -V 1853 -s -D 1 0 -g 6 -G 15 -I 1 -b 9800 -D 10 -f 8 -o $1 Does -g 3 make sense in case one has high motion scenes? >

Re: [Mjpeg-users] No B frames in GOP structure

2006-04-06 Thread Christian Ebert
* Steven M. Schultz on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 at 16:59:50 -0700: > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote: >> OK. The problem is that I don't know which options are set when using -f 8. > > The important ones ;) All you should need to specify is the '-q' > and perhaps a bitrate. What a