Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Caron
For _that_ I just burn the iso/udf image out to a DVD+RW ;) But then you have to re-rip it. Boooring. :-) Do I NEED seven computers? Heck no. But, I still have them. :-) Nor do I (well, a couple of 'em are PDP-11s so video encoding is, uh, just slightly out of the question :)). :-

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-23 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Matthew Caron wrote: > there's other stuff that you might want to put on there just for > safekeeping (such as the iso's of the DVD's you're burning). Backups are > Alternatively a IEEE1394 disc that's only up a For _that_ I just burn the iso/udf image out to

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Caron
Ah, ok - I thought that might be the case but wasn't sure (it doesn't make a lot of sense to do RAID-5 for video capture that I can see ;)). - speed (okay, simple striping can do that) - space (ditto for simple striping) - redundancy - Sure, you might not need it for video capture, but there's

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Caron
on the new system. So, I'm willing to adapt my thinking if it's a waste of effort to do a RAID-0. Would a Raid-3, or Raid-1 setup be beneficial? Assuming real hardware control, a RAID-1 won't impose additional load, but (aside from the improved performance of a higher quality caching disk contr

[Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-22 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > I think RAID is overkill for DV capture. > > So, it's worth remembering that the capture alone isn't *all* that gets > done, and that you really start to add up those costs where you factor

[Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-22 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, William R Sherman wrote: > >> The primary intent was for a Raid-0 filesystem with higher throughput [...] > DV is ~3.5MB/s (and that includes the 48k PCM audio). End of > discussion - it's not variable so it's easy to calculate

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-22 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, William R Sherman wrote: > The primary intent was for a Raid-0 filesystem with higher throughput Ah, ok - I thought that might be the case but wasn't sure (it doesn't make a lot of sense to do RAID-5 for video capture that I can see ;)). > Now, (than

[Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-22 Thread William R Sherman
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:45:45PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > Is this for protection against a drive failure?DV (or MJPEG) > capture's data rate requirements are extremely modest (in the > ~3.5MB/s range - even a notebook drive can sustain that without > breathing hard). The primary

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-20 Thread Richard Ellis
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 10:05:35AM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Bernhard Praschinger wrote: > > > Audio: ( Samplerate * Channels * Bitsize ) / (8 * 1024) > > Video: (width * height * framerate * quality ) / (200 * 1024) > > > > You have to add both values together. To

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-20 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo > > Hints > > > > Audio: ( Samplerate * Channels * Bitsize ) / (8 * 1024) > > Video: (width * height * framerate * quality ) / (200 * 1024) > > > > You have to add both values together. To get the datarate in kb/sec. > > The Video formula is not giving me answers that look right. >

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-20 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi - > From: Bernhard Praschinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Audio: ( Samplerate * Channels * Bitsize ) / (8 * 1024) > Video: (width * height * framerate * quality ) / (200 * 1024) > > You have to add both values together. To get the datarate in kb/sec. Darn - I forgot that 'quality' is no

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-20 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Bernhard Praschinger wrote: > That might be not really true. The datarate you have to expcet is > described in exactly in the mjpeg howto section:Unsorted list of useful It sure looks like the data rate for MJPEG is much higher than DV (DV is fixed at ~25mega

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-20 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo > > > results in a sustained average of 7.5MB/s of data being written > > > to disk. I only see data rates in the sub 3.5MB/s range for > > > 320x480 frames, with a driver quality factor of 50, which gives > > > about 2.5MB/s. > > > > > Ah, that's what I was curious about - thanks for the i

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-19 Thread Richard Ellis
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 09:36:55PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > 640x480? Thought fullframe NTSC was 704x480 - or is the DC10 using > square pixels instead of the Rec.601 10:11 pixels? DV's weird - it > gets an extra 8 pixels on each side for 720x480. The video digitizer chip that's used

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-19 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Richard Ellis wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:45:45PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > > > Is this for protection against a drive failure?DV (or MJPEG) > > capture's data rate requirements are extremely modest (in the > > ~3.5MB/s range - even a notebook drive can

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-19 Thread Richard Ellis
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:45:45PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > Is this for protection against a drive failure?DV (or MJPEG) > capture's data rate requirements are extremely modest (in the > ~3.5MB/s range - even a notebook drive can sustain that without > breathing hard). It depends o

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-19 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, William R Sherman wrote: > > Yes. AMD gives you more bang for your buck. > > Thanks. That's what I'd heard in the past (which is why my desktop > system is a Dual 2000+ system, but I wasn't sure whether this was > still considered to be true. It's even more true to

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-18 Thread Matthew Caron
Thanks. That's what I'd heard in the past (which is why my desktop system is a Dual 2000+ system, but I wasn't sure whether this was still considered to be true. I'd say that it is still considered to be true. Supports all current Athlon MP CPU's, and has a separate 64bit/66Mhz PCI bus, which is

[Mjpeg-users] Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD

2003-09-17 Thread William R Sherman
>3. Re: JVC switcher & Intel vs AMD (Matthew Caron) > > Yes. AMD gives you more bang for your buck. Thanks. That's what I'd heard in the past (which is why my desktop system is a Dual 2000+ system, but I wasn't sure whether this was still considered to be true. > Supports all current Athlon