[Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Derek Fountain
Just as a matter of interest, what are the principal uses, if any, of the MJPEG Tools to someone who doesn't have a supported capture card? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your bus

[Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-27 Thread Alfonso
Derek Fountain wrote: Just as a matter of interest, what are the principal uses, if any, of the MJPEG Tools to someone who doesn't have a supported capture card? You don't have to capture with the mjpegtools -- I never have (all my captures are DV through a Canopus box on FireWire). Cap

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Robert Kesterson
Derek Fountain wrote: Just as a matter of interest, what are the principal uses, if any, of the MJPEG Tools to someone who doesn't have a supported capture card? You don't have to capture with the mjpegtools -- I never have (all my captures are DV through a Canopus box on FireWire). Capture with

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Roine Gustafsson
On Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004, at 15:15 Europe/Stockholm, Derek Fountain wrote: Just as a matter of interest, what are the principal uses, if any, of the MJPEG Tools to someone who doesn't have a supported capture card? To me, mjpegtools is a veritable swiss army knife when it comes to video process

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 15:15, Derek Fountain wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, what are the principal uses, if any, of the > MJPEG Tools to someone who doesn't have a supported capture card? mpeg2enc also works with output from ffmpeg and mplayer, so you can re-encode any movie to VCD, SVCD o

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Robert Kesterson wrote: > Derek Fountain wrote: > > Just as a matter of interest, what are the principal uses, if any, of the > > MJPEG Tools to someone who doesn't have a supported capture card? At first I thought that was a troll ;) > You don't have to capture wi

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Derek Fountain
> > > Just as a matter of interest, what are the principal uses, if any, of > > > the MJPEG Tools to someone who doesn't have a supported capture card? > > At first I thought that was a troll ;) :) No, definitely not a troll! I was considering writing a piece for Newsforge (or similar) on t

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Derek Fountain wrote: > :) No, definitely not a troll! I was considering writing a piece for Newsforge Ah, ok. > The thing is, I only have a DC10+ card, which are increasingly difficult to > get hold of these days. I have been blissfully unaware to date of what peo

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Derek Fountain
> Kino and dvgrab are the two main tools. An ancilliary part of kino > called "smilutils" is also used to manipulate the DV files after > capture and editing. Hmm, information overload. One question at a time from now on... :o) Can I convert an MJPEG file to DV format so I can

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Derek Fountain
> I use 'dvgrab' to capture the data (12GB/hr) and then 'kino' to > edit (cut out the commercials, splice new scenes in, whatever). Kino > can capture of course but I prefer a commandline/batch method of > bulk capture. OK, so can I basically assume that dvgrab is like a D

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Derek Fountain wrote: > OK, so can I basically assume that dvgrab is like a DV version of lavrec; that > kino is like a DV version of lavplay/glav; Ah, that's a good way to view things. I should have thought of that analogy. > and that smilutils has somethi

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Derek Fountain wrote: > Hmm, information overload. One question at a time from now on... :o) Well, you _did_ ask :-) > Can I convert an MJPEG file to DV format so I can have a play with this > smilutils package? Hmmm, I suppose it's possible - never tried

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnick
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:32:40PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > Can I convert an MJPEG file to DV format so I can have a play with this > > smilutils package? > > Hmmm, I suppose it's possible - never tried it myself. You'd need > to get 'libdv' (another fine sourceforge proje

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-27 Thread E.Chalaron
they do At least my Sony does E. > Some (most?) DV camcorders will function as > a analog->digital converter (at least in NTSC countries - not sure > about PAL). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Expre

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-27 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 07:24, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > I've found, and maybe others will chime in, DV very easy to work with - > you've got _1_ choice of frame size/quality/whatever, no worries > about field order (DV is bottom field first. Period), and the DV > converter

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-27 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Well, sync is built into the DV format. The problem with DV is, that it And you don't need a separate sound card per capture device (in the event you have more than one). Then too there is the 'locked audio' aspect of DV (wh

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-27 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo Sorry, if I write something alreaddy mentioned. > > Exactly. The code for capturing in mjpegtools is a relatively small > > portion of the total - the bulk of the code resides in the (wide) > > variety of filters (couple denoisers, medianfilter, stabilizer, and > > s

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Without the hardware....

2004-10-27 Thread Martin Collins
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:36:39 -0700 (PDT) "Steven M. Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Huh? It's just 12GB/hour - quite comparable to the high > quality full frame mode that MJPEG cards produce (or so I was > told at one time Yup, full-frame PAL captured with my Marvel takes