Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-07 Thread Magnus Manske
May I use this as a shameless plug for my automatic description API: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=265 It scores a 9 in the Hemmingway app for Nietzsche, as opposed to the 22 for the English Wikipedia initial paragraph: https://tools.wmflabs.org/autodesc/?q=Q9358&lang=&mode=long&links=text&r

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-07 Thread Magnus Manske
that are hard to auto-describe, and use (properly cached) automated descriptions for everything else. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:36 PM Jon Robson wrote: > > On 7 Mar 2015 09:13, "Magnus Manske" wrote: > > > > May I use this as a shameless plug for my automat

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-09 Thread Magnus Manske
Damn, now I need to write a wiki poetry generator? On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:41 PM Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Well, I only got 5 out of 8. I guess computers have gotten clever. Damn > new-fangled gadgets! > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Bahodir Mansurov > wrote: > >> It’s official, Ryan is old-f

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Stripping content inside brackets from the first sentence of articles

2015-03-13 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:25 PM rupert THURNER wrote: > > BTW where did you invent the text in the headline picture from? > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q70 ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/li

[WikimediaMobile] Google Now cards?

2015-03-16 Thread Magnus Manske
http://www.androidcentral.com/any-third-party-app-will-soon-be-able-access-google-now-api Something for the mobile app? Nearby (Wikidata?) items? With images to show, or without images - for the user to snap? Article of the day? Most-edited articles in the last X hours? ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikidata descriptions: ruminations

2015-03-22 Thread Magnus Manske
As I have stated before, some items can benefit from a manual description, but the vast majority could be described sufficiently by a machine, based on the item's statements. Having people type in "German composer (X-Y)" is a waste of time, and not scalable with 14M items times 300 or so languages,

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Commons Reloaded

2015-04-15 Thread Magnus Manske
Because Commons is afraid of the massive influx of selfies that will then have to be deleted, binding admin time and upsetting the uploader (who is, likely, not aware of the Commons policies). As was said before in this thread, some filtering at the source (smartphone) will have to be implemented

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Commons Reloaded

2015-04-15 Thread Magnus Manske
; the WLM lists). The community voted that the 'easy uploader button" would > also result in too many pictures of the same things. So it's not just > selfies that people are scared of. We have HUGE trust issues onwiki > everywhere across the projects. Sigh. > > On Wed,

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Commons Reloaded

2015-04-16 Thread Magnus Manske
There is no "fear" of more Commons users; there is (valid) concern that Commons will get a large influx of pictures from one-time users, and that most of these pictures may have to be deleted. We have seen this even for "pre-selected" user groups; when some Wikipedias (Portuguese for one, I vaguely

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] Going to land ogv.js into TimedMediaHandler if no one objects

2015-08-06 Thread Magnus Manske
Note that you might have to manually switch to the new player in Safari (e.g. on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theora ) in the settings of the min-player. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM Brion Vibber wrote: > Status update: > > The weekly MediaWiki update deployment -- with ogv.js included -- has

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Going to land ogv.js into TimedMediaHandler if no one objects

2015-08-06 Thread Magnus Manske
Not that I am aware. Default was "HTML player", showing only black. On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:01 PM Brion Vibber wrote: > On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Magnus Manske > wrote: > >> Note that you might have to manually switch to the new player in Safari >> (e.g. o

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-14 Thread Magnus Manske
As to Wikidata descriptions, I think it's a good first step. As someone mentioned, it's pretty useless for most languages, as there are no descriptions on Wikidata. IMHO the next step is auto-generating short descriptions from the item statements, which will be perfectly fine for the vast majority

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-14 Thread Magnus Manske
e > knowledge item then that should override the computed description? > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Magnus Manske < > magnusman...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> As to Wikidata descriptions, I think it's a good first step. As someone >> mentioned,

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-14 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:54 PM Gergo Tisza wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Magnus Manske < > magnusman...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> IMHO the next step is auto-generating short descriptions from the item >> statements, which will be perfectly fine

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-14 Thread Magnus Manske
e Staaten Politiker (*1968) ♂" (yes, would need some work on the algorithm, but understandable) https://tools.wmflabs.org/autodesc/?q=Q6256189&lang=de&mode=short&links=text&redlinks=&format=jsonfm On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:22 PM Magnus Manske wrote: > On Fri, Aug

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-15 Thread Magnus Manske
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:38 AM Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Dan Garry wrote: > > I've seen arguments on both sides here. Some say automatically generated > > descriptions are not good enough. Some say they are. Why don't we gather > >

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-15 Thread Magnus Manske
Ah, but when auto-descriptions get better, how do we know which should be updated, and which have been "improved" bu humans? Because people will screem bloody murder if we replace "their" descriptions with automatic ones, even if those are better. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:53 AM Jane Darnell wro

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-15 Thread Magnus Manske
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 1:17 PM Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > > On Aug 15, 2015 14:06, "Magnus Manske" > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:38 AM Lydia Pintscher < > lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> w

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-15 Thread Magnus Manske
ons can be served to > people who are able to fill in labels and descriptions could be useful for > more than just the one item. > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Magnus Manske < > magnusman...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Ah, but when auto-descriptions get better,

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-18 Thread Magnus Manske
Show automatic description underneath "From Wikipedia...": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/autodesc.js To use, add: importScript ( 'User:Magnus_Manske/autodesc.js' ) ; to your common.js On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:47 AM Jane Darnell wrote: > It would be even better if this (short

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-18 Thread Magnus Manske
gt; > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Magnus Manske < > magnusman...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Show automatic description underneath "From Wikipedia...": >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/autodesc.js >> >> To use, add: >> impo

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-19 Thread Magnus Manske
e up >>>>> at the Lyon hackathon: >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VblyGhf_c8 >>>>> >>>>> I used it to add a couple hundred descriptions in a single day just by >>>>> hitting "random" then adding d

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-19 Thread Magnus Manske
, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Monte Hurd >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> IMO, if the goal is quality, then human curated descriptions are >>>>>>> superior until such time as the auto-generation script passes the Turing >>>>>>> te

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-19 Thread Magnus Manske
know which one I'd prefer... On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:50 AM Magnus Manske wrote: > Thank you Dmitry! Well phrased and to the point! > > As for "templating", that might be the worst of both worlds; without the > flexibility and over-time improvement of automatic de

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-19 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:19 PM Monte Hurd wrote: > No manual descriptions, on basically any item. And that will remain so for >> the (near) future. Automatic descriptions can change that, literally over >> night, with a little programming and linguistic effort. ... This is a >> "force multiplie

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-20 Thread Magnus Manske
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:43 AM Monte Hurd wrote: > True about algorithms never being finished, but aren't we essentially > "stuck" with the first run output, unless I misunderstand how you envision > this working? > > (assuming you don't want to over-write non-blank descriptions the next > time

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-20 Thread Magnus Manske
So it turns out that ValterVBot alone has created over 1.8 MILLION "manual" descriptions. And there are other bots that do this. We already HAVE automatic descriptions, we just store them in the "manual" field. The worst of both worlds. On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM Magnus

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-25 Thread Magnus Manske
> >>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Monte Hurd >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This is why the automatic description cache and the manual description >>>>> need to be kept separate; just "pasting" the autodesc into the manual >>>>&g

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wiki-research-l] Mobile Wikipedia, Commons, Wikidata, and Pokémon

2016-07-18 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 3:22 AM Pine W wrote: > I was thinking along similar lines as Stuart, using OSM to navigate and > encouraging users to take photos of landmarks and other buildings where > that's permitted by FOP. Landmarks for which we have only small photos, old > photos (more than about

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Commons-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Pebble smartwatch tool for finding Wikipedia photo opportunities

2016-11-07 Thread Magnus Manske
*cough* https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/ On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:30 PM wrote: > I made something that I think it´s good find you but I prefer you white me > in Spanish because my English id very bad thanks you. > > -- > *De: *"Pine W" > *Para: *"mobile-l" ,