Re: Perl as DSO...whats wrong with it, specifically?

2000-07-26 Thread Jens-Uwe Mager
On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 07:37:47PM -0500, John Marquart wrote: Using the following config. line: perl Makefile.PL EVERYTHING=1 USE_APACI=1 APACI_ARGS='--enable-shared=perl' Everything builds up to this point ... === src/modules/standard Target "all" is up to date. ===

EVERYTHING=1

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
Why can't we make EVERYTHING=1 the default? It just seems so much more sensible to me... (I get a lot of problems with people having compiled a default mod_perl and who don't have Apache::Log). -- Matt/ Fastnet Software Ltd. High Performance Web Specialists Providing mod_perl, XML, Sybase and

Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote: I have to say that I really enjoyed reading this. Especially since I was stuck halfway around the world and couldn't really go this year. :( I wonder if the OReillyCon people would consider

JOB: Perl Programmers Needed (London/UK)

2000-07-26 Thread Christof Damian
guideguide Ltd. is a internet consulting company based in London (UK) and cologne (Germany). For a new project we are looking for programmers. You will be working in a small efficient team in a relaxed no-cubicles, no-suit office in the center of London. We are a looking for programmers with

Re: EVERYTHING=1

2000-07-26 Thread Kenneth Lee
i agree, i always use EVERYTHING=1 so that i don't have to recompile mod_perl for specific modules. Matt Sergeant wrote: Why can't we make EVERYTHING=1 the default? It just seems so much more sensible to me... (I get a lot of problems with people having compiled a default mod_perl and who

Re: [ ANNOUNCE ] Apache::PerlVINC v0.02

2000-07-26 Thread Kees Vonk 7249 24549
Dave, you say you have revamped the directives, is that the only change you have made or are there functional changes as well? If not what is the advantage of using this new version over the old one (as I have managed to get that working). Kees PS. sorry for the late reply, I have been on

Re: perldoc gateway/handler

2000-07-26 Thread Christian Jaeger
At 5:45 Uhr +0200 26.7.2000, Autarch wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Christian Jaeger wrote: testwww.ethz.ch/eile). You can download both from http://testwww.ethz.ch/eile/download/ and see it in action on This link doesn't seem to be working. Yes, sorry, I had misconfigured apache. Now it's

Perl 5.6 and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Issam Alameh
hello, does perl 5.6 supports mod_perl and Apache::ASP module?? I don't know if somebody has answered this question before, but I am new to this mailing list and I don't know from where to get the archives, so fogive me Regards Issam Alameh

Is there any support for `convert` utility

2000-07-26 Thread Victor Eryomenko
Is there any support for `convert` utility (i.e. function) in Perl? If no how can I perform system call of `covert` from inside mod_perl? Victor Eryomenko http://Ricardo.ch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: EVERYTHING=1

2000-07-26 Thread Vivek Khera
"MS" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MS Why can't we make EVERYTHING=1 the default? It just seems so much more MS sensible to me... (I get a lot of problems with people having compiled a MS default mod_perl and who don't have Apache::Log). I think it is safe to do so now. At one

Help needed building mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Christian Jaeger
Hello It seems I really don't succeed getting mod_perl with apache to work. I'm really tired now (I've compiled [and installed] apache/mod_perl more than ten times now) and would like to hear a success story from someone using LinuxPPC1999 like me. Which apache version, perl version, mod_perl

DBD::Oracle and Memory problem

2000-07-26 Thread Suresh
Hi all, I am running RedHat Linux 6.1 / Apache 1.3.12 /Mod_Perl / DBI and using Oracle 8.0.5 as database back end for web application we are developing. Everything works fine, but when i was testing for memory problems, i found that each request of any file accessing the database is

Re: EVERYTHING=1

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: "MS" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MS Why can't we make EVERYTHING=1 the default? It just seems so much more MS sensible to me... (I get a lot of problems with people having compiled a MS default mod_perl and who don't have

Re: Help needed building mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread blue
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Christian Jaeger wrote: Can't locate loadable object for module Apache::Log in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/ppc-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/ppc-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 . /usr/ /usr/lib/perl) at

mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Denton River
HI list, My company is using mod_perl right now and i like it alot, but now are they wanting us to start develop in PHP i really like to stay mod_perl, so i am askin you for some help, I would really like to have something to say to my boss, like this is why i want to use mod_perl instedd of

Re: DBD::Oracle and Memory problem

2000-07-26 Thread arshavirg
I don\'t know what\'s causing the memory \"leak\", but I know that you don\'t have to include any DBD drivers, if you are using DBI. DBI parses the connect string and locates the appropriate DBD driver (DBD::Oracle in your case). Arsh Quoting Suresh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I am running

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Denton River wrote: HI list, My company is using mod_perl right now and i like it alot, but now are they wanting us to start develop in PHP i really like to stay mod_perl, so i am askin you for some help, I would really like to have something to say to my boss,

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Erich L. Markert
This is also comparing apples and oranges since PHP requires mod_perl... A better comparison would be HTMLEmbperl vs. PHP Or mod_perl vs. java server pages, ASP, etc...

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread jbodnar
PHP does not require mod_perl. They are completely seperate (and often do not like each other when loaded as DSOs). On 26-Jul-2000 Erich L. Markert wrote: This is also comparing apples and oranges since PHP requires mod_perl... A better comparison would be HTMLEmbperl vs. PHP Or mod_perl

RE: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Jerrad Pierce
With all due respect, what the hell are you smoking? PHP is an ENTIRELY different beast from perl, or mod_perl. http://php.net has absolutely nothing to do with Larry Wall -Original Message- From: Erich L. Markert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 12:41 PM

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP does not require mod_perl. They are completely seperate (and often do not like each other when loaded as DSOs). Has anyone figured out why that is yet? -- Matt/ Fastnet Software Ltd. High Performance Web Specialists Providing mod_perl, XML,

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Rob Tanner
--On Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:22 AM -0700 Denton River [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI list, My company is using mod_perl right now and i like it alot, but now are they wanting us to start develop in PHP i really like to stay mod_perl, so i am askin you for some help, That's not a simple

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread JoshNarins
The great thing about mod_perl is that you can, with just a little training in some common traps (global variables), turn a perl programmer into a mod_perl programmer. To turn someone into a PHP programmer you have to teach them the perl-like PHP syntax. PHP is popular. If you are drowning in

Re: Perl 5.6 and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread ___cliff rayman___
the list of archives can be found on the main mod_perl page: http://perl.apache.org/ i liks geocrawler's personally. -- ___cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.genwax.com/Issam Alameh wrote: hello,does perl 5.6 supports mod_perl and Apache::ASP module?? I don't know if somebody has answered

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Erich L. Markert
Obviously not the same stuff as you ;-) You missed my point, even though you reiterated it in your statement... How can you make a valid comparison between mod_perl against PHP? You can't because they are different beasts and serve different purposes. That's why I said it would be more valid

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Erich L. Markert
Mea culpa. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP does not require mod_perl. They are completely seperate (and often do not like each other when loaded as DSOs). -- __ Mr. Erich L. Markert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Learning

Re: DBD::Oracle and Memory problem

2000-07-26 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Suresh wrote: I am running RedHat Linux 6.1 / Apache 1.3.12 /Mod_Perl / DBI and using Oracle 8.0.5 as database back end for web application we are developing. Everything works fine, but when i was testing for memory problems, i found that each request of any file

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread martin langhoff
Matt Sergeant wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP does not require mod_perl. They are completely seperate (and often do not like each other when loaded as DSOs). Has anyone figured out why that is yet? wasn't it related to conflicting mysql or dbi

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Erich L. Markert wrote: Obviously not the same stuff as you ;-) You missed my point, even though you reiterated it in your statement... How can you make a valid comparison between mod_perl against PHP? You can't because they are different beasts and serve different

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, martin langhoff wrote: Matt Sergeant wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP does not require mod_perl. They are completely seperate (and often do not like each other when loaded as DSOs). Has anyone figured out why that is yet?

Re: Help needed building mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Christian Jaeger
At 17:39 Uhr +0200 26.7.2000, blue wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Christian Jaeger wrote: Can't locate loadable object for module Apache::Log in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/ppc-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/ppc-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 .

Is there a module for getting / setting a Session-ID

2000-07-26 Thread Greg Cope
Dear All Is there a (CPAN) module for transparently setting/getting a Session id from a client: i.e. If they are using cookies set and send a Session ID (shortish expiration time) and optionally a User ID (cookie with a long expiration time). If cookies are off then use URL mangling to store a

Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Greg Cope
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: ps. more pictures of Perl People at http://photo.tomat.dk/tpc4/ now... if you haven't seen a picture of Doug before then you should take a look at http://photo.tomat.dk/tpc4/dsc_4696.html ... :) seems to me to involve lots of Beer and and I not sure about the

Re: mod_perl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Denton River
OK,, Thanks for all the answers. I think i have something to go on now. we are not changing to get it easier to hire people,, so i guess there is no ide to switch to something less powerfull ;) i´m glad kind of like perl (it´s true it is magic) Denton perler am and will be --- Matt

RE: Is there a module for getting / setting a Session-ID

2000-07-26 Thread Issam W. Alameh
check Apache::ASP http://www.nodeworks.com/asp/ It is so great Issam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Cope Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 11:12 AM To: Modperl list Subject: Is there a module for getting / setting a Session-ID

Re: mod_eprl or PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Joshua Chamas
Its seems that people think PHP is easy to learn for HTML people. By that same token, all the embedded perl solutions are as well like Apache::ASP, Embperl, HTML::Mason, and AxKit, check out: http://perl.apache.org/#embed http://perl.apache.org/#xml --Joshua Denton River wrote: HI

Re: Is there a module for getting / setting a Session-ID

2000-07-26 Thread jeff
The mod_perl eagle book has a good section on saving state information using session ids. And it's not necessarily mod_perl based. -- Jeff Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

very strange bug w/ tainting

2000-07-26 Thread Alex Algard
We have been working with some code on a single-process mod_perl test server for several weeks now, and it has been running fine. We just copied the code onto a production machine, and we are now seeing the following error appear on an inconsistent basis: Insecure dependency in require while

Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
"Ask" == Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ask And the many pictures involving people slightly intoxicating Ask themself are just because they were a lot more fun than pictures of Ask people in conference rooms. :) Yup. 'cept for me. I just finished one year of no drinking. I'm

Re: further adventures with taint

2000-07-26 Thread Jeremy Howard
I see intermittent Apache error_log entries like: [Mon Jul 24 04:08:02 2000] [error] Insecure dependency in require while running with -T switch at (eval 85) line 3. ... I suspect MIME::Lite, but the code won't work if I remove it Yes, MIME::Lite needs special treatment to be taint-safe.

Re: EVERYTHING=1

2000-07-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: MS Why can't we make EVERYTHING=1 the default? It just seems so much more MS sensible to me... (I get a lot of problems with people having compiled a MS default mod_perl and who don't have Apache::Log). I think it is safe to do so now. At one

Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread
Hold on there. Did I read that right? Is that "11 thousand" dollars? WTF!?! Do your friends happen to be elephants who like to drink alcohol??? Just how in the hell do you consume that much liquor at a single party?! P.S. Let us know how the non-drinking thing goes. You're a much braver

re: mod_perl 1.2.4 on Mac OSX

2000-07-26 Thread Francis Koo
hi: i'm trying to compile mod_perl with apache_1.3.12 on a Mac OSX Server box but i'm running into some architecture problem when compiling mod_perl (even though i've removed "i386" from the Makefile): cc -c -arch i386 -arch ppc -g -pipe -pipe -fno-common -DHAS_TELLDIR_PROTOTYPE -O3

Re: further adventures with taint

2000-07-26 Thread Michael Blakeley
At 11:03 PM + 7/26/2000, Jeremy Howard wrote: I see intermittent Apache error_log entries like: [Mon Jul 24 04:08:02 2000] [error] Insecure dependency in require while running with -T switch at (eval 85) line 3. ... I suspect MIME::Lite, but the code won't work if I remove it

Win32: mod_perl and ActiveState queries...

2000-07-26 Thread Geek Boy
I've compiled: Apache/1.3.12 (Win32) mod_perl/1.24 in conjunction with ActiveState's perl ver 5.6.0 (build 616) under NT... Unfortunately this does not work. The mod_perl instructions are fairly easy to follow needed only minor changes for my situation. The docs did mention that ActiveState's

Re: further adventures with taint

2000-07-26 Thread Jeremy Howard
I'm only passing scalar text to MIME::Lite - no file attachments, so it shouldn't open(). Anyway, if it were, why don't I see "Insecure dependency in open" instead of "...in require"? Yes, good point. The open() is only used for sendmail, not for Net::SMTP anyway. Perhaps you need to add

[OT] Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hold on there. Did I read that right? Is that "11 thousand" dollars? WTF!?! Do your friends happen to be elephants who like to drink alcohol??? Just how in the hell do you consume that much liquor at a single party?! You've never thrown a

Re: Win32: mod_perl and ActiveState queries...

2000-07-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Geek Boy wrote: I've compiled: Apache/1.3.12 (Win32) mod_perl/1.24 in conjunction with ActiveState's perl ver 5.6.0 (build 616) under NT... Unfortunately this does not work. The mod_perl instructions are fairly easy to follow needed only minor changes for my

Re: [OT] Re: OSS/Perl Conference Report

2000-07-26 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
"Matt" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matt You've never thrown a party with an open bar, have you? ;-) Especially with premium and call liquor, and very few beer choices (sorry!). Matt /me appologises for the 8 beers and 4 whiskeys that he consumed, and Matt promises to repay

Re: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread 'aaron'
it was in LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but not in /etc/ld.so.conf. cool, that seemed to do the trick... thanks so the user that the apache process is running as probably wasn't picking up LD_LIBRARY_PATH. by putting it in ld.so.conf you made it available to all users. not knowing much about

Re: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Tommy Wareing
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 08:27:06AM -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: hi everyone... I was just wondering if anyone has been able to get the newer releases of DBD-Oracle to work under mod_perl? that is, using DBD-Oracle 1.04, 1.05, and 1.06, under perl 5.005 (RH6.0 standard) and DBI-1.14 I

RE: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Geoffrey Young
-Original Message- From: Tommy Wareing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:55 AM To: Geoffrey Young Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 08:27:06AM -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: hi

RE: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Geoffrey Young
-Original Message- From: aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:48 AM To: Geoffrey Young Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl at a time earlier than now, Geoffrey Young wrote: hi everyone... I was just wondering if

Re: Help needed building mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Ime Smits
| It's part of mod_perl. Now to the question whether it's really installed: | | locate '*[Aa]pache/[Ll]og*' | /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/ppc-linux/Apache/Log.pm | /home/root/.cpan/build/mod_perl-1.24/blib/lib/auto/Apache/Log |

Re: Help needed building mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Ime Smits
| | /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/ppc-linux/Apache/Log.pm OK, overlooked that first line. Sorry. Desperate in need of some coffee ;) Ime

follow-up: very strange bug w/ tainting

2000-07-26 Thread Alex Algard
More strange stuff, but at least I've narrowed down the problem somewhat... When we execute the test script "crashme.pl" below, it doesn't work under certain conditions. After we have executed another script with mod_perl (which crashes b/c it tries to read from a non-existent database table

ScriptAlias hacking?

2000-07-26 Thread Cliff Shaw
HI all, This is my first post to the list so hopefully I don't screw it up. I am attempting to do the following with mod_perl and am stumped on ScriptAliases. I want to have www.foo.com/bar/ run a mod_perl script. Simple huh? yes. Except I want to you use PATH_INFO to create directories (so

Re: ScriptAlias hacking?

2000-07-26 Thread ___cliff rayman___
i am not positive i understand your question or problem. the place to look is in the mod_perl guide. try here first: http://perl.apache.org/guide/config.html#Alias_Configurations cliff -- ___cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.genwax.com/ Cliff Shaw wrote: HI all, This is my first post to the

Re: ScriptAlias hacking?

2000-07-26 Thread Kenneth Lee
if i understand correctly, you should have in your httpd.conf something like Location "/bar" SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Your::Handler Options +ExecCGI /Location then, in your module package Your::Handler; sub handler { my $r = shift; my $path_info = $r-path_info;

RE: ScriptAlias hacking?

2000-07-26 Thread Cliff Shaw
I'd love to hear more from others about this but I believe ScriptAliasing is VERY MUCH ALIVE in mod_perl. I kept reading that you can't use ScriptAlias with mod_perl. Fine. True. But I read that as a death sentence to having pretty URL's with mod_perl. With that statement, it should say "To

Re: ScriptAlias hacking?

2000-07-26 Thread ___cliff rayman___
lots of us are using Alias with PATH_INFO. We are just not using ScriptAlias because that invokes mod_cgi instead of mod_perl. -- ___cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.genwax.com/ Cliff Shaw wrote: I'd love to hear more from others about this but I believe ScriptAliasing is VERY MUCH ALIVE in

DBD-Oracle and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Geoffrey Young
hi everyone... I was just wondering if anyone has been able to get the newer releases of DBD-Oracle to work under mod_perl? that is, using DBD-Oracle 1.04, 1.05, and 1.06, under perl 5.005 (RH6.0 standard) and DBI-1.14 I get consistently non-working results, but only when running under

Re: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Michael A. Chase
- Original Message - From: "Tommy Wareing" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Geoffrey Young" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:54 AM Subject: Re: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl Tim's changed the Makefile.PL to include $::opt_b = 1; # try to

RE: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl

2000-07-26 Thread Lord Vorp
-Original Message- From: Geoffrey Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:06 AM To: 'aaron' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DBD-Oracle and mod_perl looks like it's not linked correctly. try adding $ORACLE_HOME/lib

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl mod_perl.h

2000-07-26 Thread dougm
dougm 00/07/26 00:20:39 Modified:src/modules/perl mod_perl.h Log: include apr_strings.h Revision ChangesPath 1.17 +1 -0 modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/mod_perl.h Index: mod_perl.h === RCS