Hey,
I have automated a portable Hello World test suite, but its not
CPAN ready, so if any would like to contribute, run, and comment
on the sources, give me a holler I'll send them to you. What
it does is fire up a lean apache on a high port with only the
config necessary to run the
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Jim Woodgate wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can do the twostage server if you are short on memory, speed is
important and usage of active content is relatively low. Setup a mod_proxy
and stripped down apache for port 80 and mod_perl for port 8080 for
At 10:07 AM 12/11/2000 +, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Jim Woodgate wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can do the twostage server if you are short on memory, speed is
important and usage of active content is relatively low. Setup a
mod_proxy
and stripped down
Is CGI Raw decoding the get/post yourself? Or using the Apache::args,
Apache::Request::param mechanism?
At 02:13 AM 12/11/2000 -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote:
Hey,
I have automated a portable Hello World test suite, but its not
CPAN ready, so if any would like to contribute, run, and comment
on
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
Except that won't scale beyond 1 server...
But that's the same thing with IPC shared mem modules yet people still use
them on mod_perl for various tricks. It's still easier in Java to do that
sort of sharing -- at least it is for me. As always,
Gunther Birznieks wrote:
Is CGI Raw decoding the get/post yourself? Or using the Apache::args,
Apache::Request::param mechanism?
In the hello world scripts, there is no get/post processing as
part of the benchmark. Here's the code that's run:
http://www.chamas.com/bench/#perlrawcgi
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Joshua Chamas wrote:
Lastly, I was unable to get AxKit to run without segfaulting ...
http://axkit.org/faq.xml
Either you're running PHP on that server, or you have an Apache with expat
included. Do "nm /path/to/apache/bin/httpd | grep -i XML" to find out if
the latter is
Then it seems odd that there is such a huge discrepency between CGI.pm and
no CGI.pm. If you preload CGI.pm in startup.pl does the difference go away?
At 02:56 AM 12/11/2000 -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote:
Gunther Birznieks wrote:
Is CGI Raw decoding the get/post yourself? Or using the
Gunther Birznieks wrote:
Then it seems odd that there is such a huge discrepency between CGI.pm and
no CGI.pm. If you preload CGI.pm in startup.pl does the difference go away?
I did preload CGI.pm. I'll send you the hello world
suite separately since you seem curious. Note that at 500
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:26:38PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
Just how smart is the compiler?
[snip]
use constant DEBUG_TEMPLATE = 1;
use constant DEBUG_SESSION = 2;
use constant DEBUG_REQUEST = 4;
use constant DEBUG_QUERY = 8;
use constant
"Alexander Farber (EED)" wrote:
Hi Joshua,
you sort the table at http://www.chamas.com/bench/ by Hits/s,
but the ModPerl Handler was tested on PIII-500 x 2 and the Java
thingies below - only PII-266.
Is it an intended joke or do I misunderstand something?
The first page is marked
I have just done a complete install of RedHat v7.0 which includes
Perl 5.6.0. Image Magick was running fine on my old system, but now
when I attempt to install it, it gives the following error message
when attempting to do the PerlMagick install:
./perlmain.o: In function: 'xs_init' :
Hi Aaron,
Check out the section titled "Using a Translation Handler to Change the
URI" in Chapter 7 of the Eagle book, at
http://www.modperl.com/book/chapters/ch7.html#Using_a_Translation_Handler_to_C.
Aaron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something to this effect:
Is there a module that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello, I have a question that may have a simple answer.
In order to satisfy some broader system dependencies I need to define my mod_perl
process name. By default $0 seems to get set to "/dev/null".
When I try to modify $0 in the Apache startup script or
Thanks to Brian Behlendorf and Jim Winstead the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is back to normal operation.
_
Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Joshua Chamas wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello, I have a question that may have a simple answer.
In order to satisfy some broader system dependencies I need to define my mod_perl
process name. By default $0 seems to get set to "/dev/null".
When I try to
Joshua Chamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RESULTS:
[hello]# ./bench.pl -time=60
...
Test Name Test FileHits/sec Total Hits Total Time Total
Bytes
HTML Static
I have just done a complete install of RedHat v7.0 which includes
Perl 5.6.0. Image Magick was running fine on my old system, but now
when I attempt to install it, it gives the following error message
when attempting to do the PerlMagick install:
./perlmain.o: In function: 'xs_init' :
Sorry Geoff,
OK, the bug now is that the _translate_uri sub expects you to be working
with Location rather than .htaccess. It does this to do
s/location/prefix/, which is why it doesn't work with .htaccess.
Now first of all, there's a bit of a security risk in there - you're doing
-Original Message-
From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 8:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Still bugs in Apache::Dispatch with .htaccess
Sorry Geoff,
OK, the bug now is that the _translate_uri sub expects you to
be working
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At 22:11 10/12/2000 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
Am I correct to say that it's wrong to tie the dbm file in startup.pl and
than share it across the children?
[snip]
I think that unexpected things may happen since %My::Tied::btree has only
one file descriptor, and different processes accessing the
"SB" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB Do you think I should include the scenario of making Apache run in
SB chroot enviroment in the guide?
That require quite a bit of stuff be crammed into the chroot jail.
You'll need an entire perl install there, wouldn't you? It might make
sense
"SB" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB Do you think I should include the scenario of making Apache run in
SB chroot enviroment in the guide?
That require quite a bit of stuff be crammed into the chroot jail.
You'll need an entire perl install there, wouldn't you? It might
At 22:11 10/12/2000 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
Am I correct to say that it's wrong to tie the dbm file in startup.pl and
than share it across the children?
[snip]
I think that unexpected things may happen since %My::Tied::btree has only
one file descriptor, and different processes
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 05:08:29PM +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
At 22:11 10/12/2000 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
I don't know whether or not you're correct as I haven't tested this (which
I guess is the only way to really know :). I don't much about fd's either,
I tested sharing fds beteen
Matt Sergeant writes:
Except that won't scale beyond 1 server...
If I needed to go beyond one server in java, I would probably look at
something like Objectspace Voyager, which is the easiest to use orb
I've ever seen. Is there anything similar in perl? I'd love to try it
out!
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Jim Woodgate wrote:
Matt Sergeant writes:
Except that won't scale beyond 1 server...
If I needed to go beyond one server in java, I would probably look at
something like Objectspace Voyager, which is the easiest to use orb
I've ever seen. Is there anything
-Original Message-
From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:57 AM
To: Geoffrey Young
Subject: RE: Still bugs in Apache::Dispatch with .htaccess
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Geoffrey Young wrote:
I've started poking around...
in
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Geoffrey Young wrote:
OK, so how about a new directive: DispatchBase. If that is set, remove
that from $r-filename, and use that as the base path.
Otherwise use the
$r-location method.
yeah, I thought about that too - it would involve less overhead than
scanning
I know this is off topic, but does anyone know if the config files in
Apache support IPv6 addresses?
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
At 03:33 PM 12/10/00 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
Do you think I should include the scenario of making Apache run in chroot
enviroment in the guide?
I think chroot Apache is important especially for dynamic services.
Definitely.
For example,
Everyone:
Here's something that myself and my sysadmin guy have been working on
for a bit: opendir appears to be broken for us on a new Apache/mod_perl
installation.
We've tried checking out the mailing list archives but nothing jumpped
out at us along these lines.
Any ideas from anyone?
-Original Message-
From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 1:27 PM
To: Geoffrey Young
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Still bugs in Apache::Dispatch with .htaccess
I'd make it as simple as possible. Make it DispatchRoot (akin to
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Richard Dice wrote:
Everyone:
Here's something that myself and my sysadmin guy have been working on
for a bit: opendir appears to be broken for us on a new Apache/mod_perl
installation.
Rich, please send in the relevant parts of the strace output, or may be
you will
hi,
im trying 2 call the "handler" function in Apache::asp from a perl module
(in apache with mode_perl),
i need 2 pass parameters 2 that function like the filename, and i tried 2
modify the handler function accordingly,
but i keep getting errors like " [client 10.10.10.19] need AuthName: /Test"
Have you looked at the permissions and verified that the uid of the user
running apache has permissions to list the contents of the directory?
It's a good suggestion, but we've been all up and down this one over
here. (For instance, if it didn't have perms, then the opendir/readdir
commands
As it was said before, successfull projects are self-fueled once they get
to the press. Look at this article dated Nov 7, 2000.
http://www.WebDevelopersJournal.com/articles/why_php.html
The article starts with what seems to be a hard evidence:
"According to NetCraft surveys, PHP is now the most
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Richard Dice wrote:
Have you looked at the permissions and verified that the uid of the user
running apache has permissions to list the contents of the directory?
It's a good suggestion, but we've been all up and down this one over
here. (For instance, if it didn't
That is just what I was looking for.
I just modified the $r-filename and left $r-uri untouched.
10 lines of code and I have it doing exactly what I needed and Apache::ASP reads
the correct file.
I still have the $ENV{REQUEST_URI} to check for the orginal name requested, there
by allow me to set
Joshua Chamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
IME, simple mod_perl handlers typically run around 50% as fast as
HTML static pages. Your hello world benchmark seems to be slightly
misleading in this respect, since the content-length is small
relative to the header size.
Eran Keshet wrote:
hi,
im trying 2 call the "handler" function in Apache::asp from a perl module
(in apache with mode_perl),
i need 2 pass parameters 2 that function like the filename, and i tried 2
modify the handler function accordingly,
but i keep getting errors like " [client
It shouldn't be gigabytes -- you want to strace only special events like
open and read, and you want to attach to the process only before running
the script (run under -X) -- so you should have just a few lines!!!
% strace -p PID -e trace=open,read
I was talking about ltrace, not strace,
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 06:13:13PM +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
It sounds to me like you have hit the nail on the head. Perhaps what is
needed in terms of recouping costs for a mod_perl hands-on development
course and/or online course is the open source/collaborative approach.
This
Er. I think you mean 'rebuttal'.
I don't know what kind of rebate anyone's expecting from mod_perl, since it's free.
In fact, more people might be expecting to pay for it ;-)
Tom
Actually in some context rebate will do.
One meaning of rebate is:
Middle English rabet, from Old French rabat:
recess in a wall, act of beating down,
from rabattre,
to beat down again;
Is rebate in the sense of the word that the amount is reduced an American thing?
Aaron Johnson
[EMAIL
At 11:55 11/12/2000 -0500, barries wrote:
I tested sharing fds beteen parent child, but not dbms, and it breaks
as expected. sysseek() in one process alters the internals of the fd,
tripping up the other process if it happens between seek and read.
I guess that's pretty much to be expected.
At 15:58 11/12/2000 -0500, Aaron Johnson wrote:
Actually in some context rebate will do.
One meaning of rebate is:
Middle English rabet, from Old French rabat:
recess in a wall, act of beating down,
from rabattre,
to beat down again;
Is rebate in the sense of the word that the amount is reduced
Is rebate in the sense of the word that the amount is reduced an American thing?
Hmmm. I hadn't thought about it, but come to think of it, I think it is used more
extensively in America. The sense it has here is more of a partial refund, as in "Buy
this mouse and send in the manufacturer's
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Richard Dice wrote:
It shouldn't be gigabytes -- you want to strace only special events like
open and read, and you want to attach to the process only before running
the script (run under -X) -- so you should have just a few lines!!!
% strace -p PID -e
Er. I think you mean 'rebuttal'.
I don't know what kind of rebate anyone's expecting from mod_perl, since it's free.
In fact, more people might be expecting to pay for it ;-)
So you've know my secret now... my English sucks... please don't tell
anybody... Now you start wondering how he [me]
Count me in! I'll help!
Stas Bekman wrote:
Er. I think you mean 'rebuttal'.
I don't know what kind of rebate anyone's expecting from mod_perl, since it's free.
In fact, more people might be expecting to pay for it ;-)
So you've know my secret now... my English sucks... please don't
I looked int he archives for this problem and, while mentioned,
not definitive solution was apparantly found. I did notice the
handler get called once, but only once: total server shutowns
and restarts don't make it get called.
I'm using Apache 1.3.12,
OK,
J. J. Horner writes:
I would be willing to donate my time to write and initially test
the exercises to the slides that are taught for the days. If a
couple people were to donate their time to writing the slides
based on an outline produced by Stas and Randal.
I will write the
At 10:51 AM 12/11/00 -0500, Vivek Khera wrote:
"SB" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SB Do you think I should include the scenario of making Apache run in
SB chroot enviroment in the guide?
That require quite a bit of stuff be crammed into the chroot jail.
You'll need an entire perl
I've snipped some stuff out of both sides.
At 09:58 AM 12/11/00 +, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
At 03:33 PM 12/10/00 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
For example, perhaps the mod_perl server and the HTML/images server should
be separately chrooted
At 01:23 PM 12/11/00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is rebate in the sense of the word that the amount is reduced an
American thing?
Hmmm. I hadn't thought about it, but come to think of it, I think it is
used more extensively in America. The sense it has here is more of a
partial refund,
A linguistics discussion on the mod_perl list.
Larry would be proud. =o)
Je pense, donc je sui! lol!
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is rebate in the sense of the word that the amount is reduced an
American thing?
Hmmm. I hadn't thought about it, but come to think of it, I think it
is used
Hey,
Updated results from the other day with the Template Toolkit
benchmark properly optimized, thanks Perrin!
The reference for these numbers is at: http://www.chamas.com/bench
If you would like the hello test suite, please email me separately.
]# ./bench.pl -time=60
Test Name
Could you please explain the differences between
CGI Raw and CGI.pm? I'm using oo method of
CGI.
Thanks
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 07:56:03PM -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote:
Hey,
Updated results from the other day with the Template Toolkit
benchmark properly optimized, thanks Perrin!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you please explain the differences between
CGI Raw and CGI.pm? I'm using oo method of
CGI.
Thanks
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 07:56:03PM -0800, Joshua Chamas wrote:
Hey,
Updated results from the other day with the Template Toolkit
benchmark properly
Joshua Chamas wrote:
If you are using CGI.pm object methods, I would worry about calling
all those methods to build your HTML and if you are performance
minded, I would use them frugally.
IIRC, CGI.pm is actually slower to run the functional syntax than the object
syntax. This is because
Matt Sergeant writes:
CORBA::ORBit is very simple to use. I'd be very interested in
hearing from
anyone who has used this in a mod_perl project.
We are currently using CORBA and mod_perl for scaleable access to databases.
The setup is:
Web-server: Apache::ASP and client-side COPE.
FYI-- here are some Apache::Session benchmark results. As with all
benchmarks, this may not be applicable to you.
Basically, though, the results show that you really ought to use a database
to back your session stores if you run a high-volume site.
Benchmark: This benchmark measures the time
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