5.8.0 RC1 has been released; please help testing it

2002-06-01 Thread Stas Bekman
In case you've missed this announcement, please help test Perl 5.8.0-RC1. The just released mod_perl-1.27 and mod_perl-1.99_02 were tested with this release and work properly on several platforms we were able to test on. Please make sure that when 5.8.0 is released it works for you (both mod_p

ANNOUNCE: mod_perl-1.99_02

2002-06-01 Thread Doug MacEachern
The URL http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-1.99_02.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/D/DO/DOUGM/mod_perl-1.99_02.tar.gz size: 378436 bytes md5: b08c12adc1a8ae4ce7a111f8d5fe0b43 Changes since 1.99_02: pass the PATH and TZ environment variables at startup by default

ANNOUNCE: mod_perl-1.27

2002-06-01 Thread Doug MacEachern
The URL http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-1.27.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/D/DO/DOUGM/mod_perl-1.27.tar.gz size: 372525 bytes md5: bd07f4f1065eb0d0a8d8004219357d8c Changes since 1.26: workaround Cwd bug in 5.8.0-RC1 that breaks apache configuration on solar

RE: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
> From: Rob Nagler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 31 May 2002 23:48 > Models can only express meta info about the data, not the context > in which the data is rendered. Some info, like placement, is > conditional on the grouping which is chosen by the view. A layout > manager abstracts

RE: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 21:14 01.06.2002, Jeff wrote: > > From: Per Einar Ellefsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 01 June 2002 18:10 > > To: Jeff > > > Well, as I see this, it isn't a problem. The layout manager takes > > the place of the view, as it essentially decides how things should > > be rendered. You the

RE: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
> From: Barry Hoggard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 01 June 2002 19:16 > I don't think the standard HTML::Template has support for formatting > numbers, dates, etc. Perrin indicated that you can extend HTML::Template in some way to accommodate this, but I am not yet sure of the details.

RE: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
> From: Per Einar Ellefsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 01 June 2002 18:10 > To: Jeff > Well, as I see this, it isn't a problem. The layout manager takes > the place of the view, as it essentially decides how things should > be rendered. You then have two stages in your view, but the sam

Re: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Barry Hoggard
I forgot to ask one thing about Jesse's comments. I don't think the standard HTML::Template has support for formatting numbers, dates, etc. How do you make sure that it's done consistently in your applications? It seems problematic to me to require the programmers to do work when a designer w

RE: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 15:09 01.06.2002, Jeff wrote: > > From: Perrin Harkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 01 June 2002 00:17 > > To: Rob Nagler > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The same template? How does the layout manager help with that? > > Does it modify the template? It would make more sense to me if

RE: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
> From: Perrin Harkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 01 June 2002 00:17 > To: Rob Nagler > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The same template? How does the layout manager help with that? > Does it modify the template? It would make more sense to me if > this were a sort of abstraction to facto

Re: PERL Internals access

2002-06-01 Thread Stas Bekman
Burton, Craig wrote: > If anyone there can give me some pointers to how to access the syntax > tree for an executing Perl program, _from within that program_, I would > be very grateful. I suspect this may not be possible. The O::Backend > system seems to require the Perl program execute with

RE: separating C from V in MVC

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff Aqua
> From: Jesse Erlbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 30 May 2002 22:42 > To: 'Ray Zimmerman'; modperl List; Mason List Jesse, thanks for your comments, I found them very interesting. I am comfortable with Perl and Web programming (though previously not the two together) and am about to embar

PERL Internals access

2002-06-01 Thread Burton, Craig
If anyone there can give me some pointers to how to access the syntax tree for an executing Perl program, _from within that program_, I would be very grateful.  I suspect this may not be possible.  The O::Backend system seems to require the Perl program execute with overloaded Ops (example :

Re: Video On Demand Project

2002-06-01 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 09:20 01.06.2002, Medi Montaseri wrote: >Please let me know if I should post this to some other (more) relevant >group. I think this very little mod_perl related. I don't think it's a good idea using mod_perl for that purpose either. You should try to find a video on demand mailing list of n

Video On Demand Project

2002-06-01 Thread Medi Montaseri
Hi, I am considering a Just-For-Fun Video On Demand Project and am wondering if I can jump start it by pinging your guys first. The environment is Server would be a Linux box, running Apache behind a best case 198 K SDSL line. The movie would say a training lectureimagine a garage, a