On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Chris Winters wrote:
> I think a *really* good Perl person can be faster, but
> that's just a gut instinct. Most of us mortals don't
> qualify.
i used to think that, until i watched a set of really good
*engineers* move quickly inside and between c++, java and
perl. i no lon
* Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001213 19:50]:
> Well, for me we do Java because I know that there are a couple drivers.
>
> 1) I do know of situations were Java is a better/easier tool.
> 2) For us its not about what is sexy, but what will sell. By the time we
> talk to a company, the
* Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001213 11:19]:
> Appologies if I am butting in - but what you apppear to say here is that
> you are using JAVA because its sex / marketdriods know of it, yet perl
> would be the quicker (and hence cheaper solution ?). Surley for this
> reason you should use perl a
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> So I guess it's a matter of degree. I simply do love
> Perl, but I don't hate Java, I just merely really like
> it. I guess you could say I cheat on my Perl gf all the
> time. :) But unlike in life, I don't think a monogamous
> relationship with my
At 03:03 PM 12/13/00 +, Greg Cope wrote:
>Chris Winters wrote:
> >
> > * Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001212 23:53]:
> >
> >
> > > With that said though, I still love Perl.
> >
> > Me too :-) It's frustrating to be doing something in Java that would
> > take a much shorter time in Pe
Chris Winters wrote:
>
> * Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001212 23:53]:
>
> > ...
> >
> > A well-specified app is always easier to code regardless of Java or Perl.
> > Over the years I've become more of a fan of seeing the benefits of good
> > software engineering than really thinking a
* Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001212 23:53]:
>
> Of course, we have a toolkit that we use to develop apps in both Perl and
> Java which helps, but it's still interesting that business logic for people
> experienced in the language of their choice isn't that bad in terms of
> deliver
1:42 PM
To: Chris Winters; Nathan Torkington
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Article idea: mod_perl + JSP
At 11:11 PM 12/12/2000 -0500, Chris Winters wrote:
>* Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001212 22:09]:
> >
> > Anyone run such an installation? Anyone want to write abou
> The main bad thing about this is that when we spec out a project, each
> "view" on the application we spec out as 2 days instead of 1 day of work
in
> the equivalent Perl because coding the taglibs gets to be a pain.
Template Toolkit is a good way to do something similar in Perl. The obvious
w
At 11:11 PM 12/12/2000 -0500, Chris Winters wrote:
>* Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001212 22:09]:
> >
> > Anyone run such an installation? Anyone want to write about their
> > setup and experiences?
> >
There are projects where we use mod_perl handlers for stuff like
prototyping auth
Perrin Harkins writes:
> Anyway, I think a better approach for getting attention from Java-minded
> people is to demonstrate that there are well-designed, carefully
> engineered sites being built in mod_perl. Most of the articles I see
> about Perl tend to play up the "quick hack" aspect, and ign
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> In that vein, I'd love to see an article on mod_perl and JSP
> cooperating. That is, a website that uses both and admits that each
> has its place. I know a lot of people don't like Java (I'm one of
> them), but mentioning JSP is the foot in the do
* Nathan Torkington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001212 22:09]:
> I think the 100% Java idea has had its day. Microsoft's .NET is a
> tacit admission that in the real world Microsoft will never own 100%
> of the market, so let's make things work better together.
>
> In that vein, I'd love to see an arti
I think the 100% Java idea has had its day. Microsoft's .NET is a
tacit admission that in the real world Microsoft will never own 100%
of the market, so let's make things work better together.
In that vein, I'd love to see an article on mod_perl and JSP
cooperating. That is, a website that uses
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