Re: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-27 Thread Brian Reichert
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:03:04AM -0700, Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: Now, I'm assuming that Apache has full access to these incoming packets. Therefore, they must also have access to this invisible identifier. Is it possible to extract that identifier somehow by tinkering with Apache? Most NAT

Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman
Okay, after I think about it, there must be a way to identify a unique user, even if they are behind a firewall. Let's run through this process: 1) Person behind the firewall sends out a request to a web server. 2) The firewall intercepts that request, masks the person's IP address and lets the

Re: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread James G Smith
Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, after I think about it, there must be a way to identify a unique user, even if they are behind a firewall. Let's run through this process: 1) Person behind the firewall sends out a request to a web server. 2) The firewall intercepts that request,

Re: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Wim Kerkhoff
Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: Now, I'm assuming that Apache has full access to these incoming packets. Therefore, they must also have access to this invisible identifier. Is it possible to extract that identifier somehow by tinkering with Apache? The only thing that you can access from the

RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman
is dependent on the browser? Jonathan -Original Message- From: Wim Kerkhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:15 AM To: Jonathan Hilgeman Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Concepts of Unique Tracking Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: Now, I'm assuming that Apache has

RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman
To: Jonathan Hilgeman Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Concepts of Unique Tracking On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:03:04AM -0700, Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: Now, I'm assuming that Apache has full access to these incoming packets. Therefore, they must also have access to this invisible identifier

Re: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Wim Kerkhoff
Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: What about client-specific information available in Javascript, like screen resolution, size, etc...? Can that be accessed by tinkering with Apache a bit, or is it something only available because of the browser, since Javascript is dependent on the browser? I

RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman
: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Concepts of Unique Tracking JH Let's take over the world and recompile all browsers to have them send out JH the MAC address of thet network card. .. and if I'm dialup user :) JH Jonathan JH -Original Message- JH From: Wim Kerkhoff [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Stephen Adkins
How quickly we forget ... Don't we remember the huge outcry over Intel putting a unique ID in every CPU which would could be transmitted via web browser and destroy all of our privacy? The frustration we feel as programmers who are trying to identify anonymous visitors is exactly what privacy

RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Alex Porras
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:14 PM To: Jonathan Hilgeman; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking How quickly we forget ... Don't we remember the huge outcry over Intel putting a unique ID in every CPU which would could be transmitted

RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking

2001-05-25 Thread Joe Breeden
Breeden -- Sent from my Outlook 2000 Wired Deskheld (www.microsoft.com) -Original Message- From: Alex Porras Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:38 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Concepts of Unique Tracking Although I agree about privacy issues, I will keep