On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
Igor seems upset with the current (not still final) results of this
discussion, which HE tried to turn selfishly to a wrong way. Impolite style
of discussions accomplished with attempts to hide some information and to
provide some fantasies instead
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
Yes, absolutely. And no one on the earth may restrict your rights to log
anything you feel important in your own handler. Just every overhead
decrements the number of your prospective users. And when you try to dictate
your very own needs (or
It's not quite the truth again. It is not a private email; it is a public
mailing list. Everyone writing here expects the replies and comments from
any other subscriber, especially from the main speaker of the thread.
Igor seems upset with the current (not still final) results of this
From: Igor Sysoev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here is first part of criticism.
1. You should not mix proxies and browsers.
It's a question. I've been thinking about this, and decided to refrain from
diving into a long common discussion about features of spiders,
content-feeders, general indexing
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
Does it make sense? For me it means that every fact which is coming from
Igor Sysoev should be double-checked independently prior to practical usage.
OK. It's your right.
I guess some significant changes in the next version of the tutorial... On
From: Igor Sysoev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
I did not check how Squid work with Vary header because any value in
this header simply disables caching in MSIE. I prefer client caching
to compression.
It's
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
I did not check how Squid work with Vary header because any value in
this header simply disables caching in MSIE. I prefer client caching
to compression.
It's not the truth again. I'm using Vary accomplished with Expires to
control MSIE local
From: Igor Sysoev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you show me URL with Vary and Expires that MSIE would cache.
You have this combination when you access my preview with your MSIE by
HTTP/1.1 with no proxy (it's still old version of
Apache::CompressClientFixup installed over there). The lifetime of
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
From: Igor Sysoev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you show me URL with Vary and Expires that MSIE would cache.
You have this combination when you access my preview with your MSIE by
HTTP/1.1 with no proxy (it's still old version of
Yes, your response is
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Igor Sysoev wrote:
I mean that handler can do following:
if ($r-headers_in(Accept-Encoding) =~ /gzip/
and not $r-note(disable_gzip))
{
do gzipping
}
I understand your point of view, even I prefer Slava's approach.
I'm asking myself why you will need to log
From: Igor Sysoev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, your response is really cached at least in MSIE 5.5.
Thanks.
...
I mean that handler can do following:
if ($r-headers_in(Accept-Encoding) =~ /gzip/
and not $r-note(disable_gzip))
{
do gzipping
}
Should we consider this the
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
Since now the draft tutorial Features of Content Compression for Different
Web Clients (for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs) is available for
preview and discussion at
http://devl4.outlook.net/devdoc/Dynagzip/ContentCompressionClients.html .
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
Since now the draft tutorial Features of Content Compression for Different
Web Clients (for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs) is available for
preview and discussion at
http://devl4.outlook.net/devdoc/Dynagzip/ContentCompressionClients.html .
From: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
Probably the best post it here first, so we can get it reviewed and
commented on before we add it to the docs.
Since now the draft tutorial Features of Content Compression for Different
Web Clients
At 00:04 13.06.2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
From: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
Probably the best post it here first, so we can get it reviewed and
commented on before we add it to the docs.
Since now the draft tutorial Features
, 2002 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
From: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
Probably the best post it here first, so we can get it reviewed and
commented on before we add it to the docs.
Since now
At 03:37 06.06.2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
It's going to be something like Features of Content Compression for
Different Web Clients for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs. We'll be
able to discuss details next week.
Ok, great Slava, thanks a lot!
--
Per Einar Ellefsen
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Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
At 15:36 05.06.2002, Valerio_Valdez Paolini wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Slava Bizyayev wrote:
I don't know should it be a kitchen of every system administrator, or
somebody could volunteer to serve the public web site about the current
conditions of different
Stas Bekman wrote:
The ongoing discission of MVC is a good example
of a tutorial candidate
Incidentally, I already wrote a fair amount on this subject in the
eToys-related tutorial:
http://perl.apache.org/release/docs/tutorials/scale_etoys/etoys.html#Code_Structure
There's a diagram, code
Slava Bizyayev wrote:
It's going to be something like Features of Content Compression for
Different Web Clients for Part IV: Client side facts and bugs. We'll be
able to discuss details next week.
Sounds great, looking forward to it.
Probably the best post it here first, so we can get it
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Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:44 AM
Subject: tutorials (was: Re: rfc Apache::Dynagzip)
Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
At 15:36 05.06.2002, Valerio_Valdez Paolini wrote
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