Re: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Patrick Galbraith wrote: Anyone on this list use AxKit? I'm curious how it pans out. I like the idea of XSLT/XML, though I find myself trying to read between the lines of hype vs. something that's actually very useful. I don't know, so I don't have any opinions. I do

Re: templating system opinions (axkit?) [OT]

2003-07-23 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi Matt, On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Matt Sergeant wrote: The main reason I like AxKit is it prevents me from screwing up [snip] I just write straight perl code. I barely notice that I'm using XML. Can you give us in a couple of sentences your take on the state of XML in general and AxKit in

RE: mod_perl installation problem...

2003-07-23 Thread Jim Morrison [Mailing-Lists]
Thanks for getting back Randy, Libapreq is complaining too.. That's how this all started, I couldn't install Apache::Cookie. Ok.. I've had a bit of a clean up, and I can now get Apachemod_perl compiling and running just fine.. __But__ I still can't for the life of me get Apache::Request and

Re: Apache::UploadMeter

2003-07-23 Thread Sven
I had some problems with my server-configuration (httpd.conf) but now it works perfect. Thanks to Issac for the fast help and the cool module. Hope this gets you started, Issac

Re: [QUESTION] Can't read out verified username (auth)

2003-07-23 Thread Fatih Gey
- Original Message - From: Martin Wickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Can't read out verified username (auth) On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 12:36:55PM +0200, Fatih Gey wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 01:05:58AM +0200,

Re: caching questions

2003-07-23 Thread Peter Haworth
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:05:00 +0300, Stas Bekman wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: Cache::Mmap (which I wrote) isn't threadsafe, but should work OK in a forking MPM. If anyone wants to contribute code to make it threadsafe (preferably without impacting single-threaded performance too much), I'll

Re: cookies and POST in pure MP2?

2003-07-23 Thread Carl Brewer
Egor Korablev wrote: Hi How can I write and get cookies and get POST data (text) under MP2 handler without using apache::compat? You can either use libapreq, which is _almost_ there :) or hack yuor own bits up cribbed from CGI.pm or the test stuff in the mp2 test suite. That's what I'm using

Re: Apache 1.3.27 configure error with mod_perl 1.28, perl 5.8.0, gcc 3.3 on Solaris 2.8

2003-07-23 Thread Chris Fabri
At 05:09 PM 7/22/2003 -0500, Bill Weinman wrote: At 04:45 PM 7/22/2003, Chris Fabri wrote: I'm not even getting as far as the make when I get the error.If I build mod_perl separately, and remove all references to these flags from the makefiles, and the run apache's config, I still get this

RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread Hauck, William B.
Hi, I've been considering using a template system for an app that I'm working, but decided against it as the designers who would be putting the actual pages together (look n feel) use Adobe GoLive which does 'bad things' to non-html stuff (at least in my experience). What i've done is just

RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread Sam Tregar
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Hauck, William B. wrote: What i've done is just use completely external html files with html-compliant comments indicating the data field. (example !-- APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME --). My application just reads in the html on startup and does a series of substition

RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread FFabrizio
Change that to: !-- TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME -- You mean TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME don't you? Or did I miss the secret stealth hide-your-tags-in-html-comments feature? :-) -Fran

RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread Marc Slagle
What you have created for your own use is almost exactly what HTML::Template does. We have used it for a year without any major problems between us and the HTML designer. Its fast and supports loops and if statements. Its probably worth your while to check it out. As far as XSLT goes, we're

Re: cookies and POST in pure MP2?

2003-07-23 Thread Stas Bekman
Carl Brewer wrote: Egor Korablev wrote: Hi How can I write and get cookies and get POST data (text) under MP2 handler without using apache::compat? You can either use libapreq, which is _almost_ there :) or hack yuor own bits up cribbed from CGI.pm or the test stuff in the mp2 test suite.

Re: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread Douglas Hunter
Hauck, William B. wrote: Hi, snip / I'll be adding a function to And then you'll be adding a function to..., and then possibly a function to..., and then you'll need it to... Pretty soon, you will have spent hundreds of hours developing a templating system that you throw away in favor of

Re: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Change that to: !-- TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME -- You mean TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME don't you? Or did I miss the secret stealth hide-your-tags-in-html-comments feature? :-) You missed it:

Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Dave Baker
I'm curious as to why the combination of CGI::Application and HTML::Template hasn't taken off ... CGI::Application seems to allow a software developer to create an entire CGI app that can be stored and distributed as a module on CPAN, but only a couple such app/modules have been so added.

RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)

2003-07-23 Thread FFabrizio
You missed it: http://search.cpan.org/author/SAMTREGAR/HTML-Template-2.6/Temp late.pm#NOTES Ah. When the section begins If you're a fanatic about valid HTML it becomes more clear why I missed that. :-) Thanks, Fran

Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Dave == Dave Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave I'm curious as to why the combination of CGI::Application and Dave HTML::Template hasn't taken off ... CGI::Application seems to allow a Dave software developer to create an entire CGI app that can be stored and Dave distributed as a module on

Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Eric
Hi, That was really interesting to look at. OpenInteract is really impressive. I guess there is always a cost to having a big do it all type of system. That is what made me avoid Mason, it just blew my head off for complexity. Now it is true, I am looking for a bit more than what

Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection witheither HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Eric wrote: do it all type of system. That is what made me avoid Mason, it just blew my head off for complexity. Now it is true, I am looking for a bit more than There's a fine book about it. www.masonbook.com Just an unbiased opinion ;) -dave

Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection witheither HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Chris Winters
Eric wrote: That was really interesting to look at. OpenInteract is really impressive. I guess there is always a cost to having a big do it all type of system. That is what made me avoid Mason, it just blew my head off for complexity. Now it is true, I am looking for a bit more than what

Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection witheither HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Chris Winters
Dave Rolsky wrote: There's a fine book about it. www.masonbook.com Just an unbiased opinion ;) Hey, I'd be happy to write a book about OpenInteract ;-) Chris -- Chris Winters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988.

Debugging mod_perl with ptkdb

2003-07-23 Thread John Williams
I followed the advice on the mod_perl guide to try setting up remote debugging of mod_perl with ptkdb, and I've been trying to solve the remaining problems. http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/debug.html#ptkdb_and_Interactive_mod_perl_Debugging I now have ptkdb working in Apache multi-server

RE: mod_perl installation problem...

2003-07-23 Thread Jim Morrison [Mailing-Lists]
Was a 'make' of libapreq successful, before the 'make test'? And also, does the user you're running the tests as have the proper permissions to be running tests within /usr/src/libapreq-1.2/? Make appeared to be successful yes (afaik)... I did wonder about the permissions thing but I

Re: AW: Apache:AuthenNTLM 2.01 with modperl 1.26

2003-07-23 Thread Shannon Eric Peevey
Tresp, Wilfried wrote: Hi, works now, thanks, next I'll try it with Apache2. AuthenNTLM was the only reason I have not tried it yet :) Regards, Wilfried -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Shannon Eric Peevey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 20:50 An: Tresp,

Application design patterns

2003-07-23 Thread Aleksandr Guidrevitch
Hi, All Are there some common application design patterns using mod_perl + TT2 ? Any links would be greatly appreciated Sincerely Alex

Sharing objects

2003-07-23 Thread Aleksandr Guidrevitch
Hi, All again :) That's not the last my post :) What are common patterns of sharing data beetween apache processes, for example I'd like to share some indexes. Also, I'd like to avoid complex sycronyzation process (currently IPC::Sahreable seem to be the right thing) Sincerely Alex

Re: Application design patterns

2003-07-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 18:18, Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: Are there some common application design patterns using mod_perl + TT2 ? Any links would be greatly appreciated There are tutorials on the Template Toolkit site, a recent perl.com article about TT and Class::DBI, and my article:

Re: Sharing objects

2003-07-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 18:21, Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: What are common patterns of sharing data beetween apache processes, for example I'd like to share some indexes. Also, I'd like to avoid complex sycronyzation process (currently IPC::Sahreable seem to be the right thing) No,

Re: Sharing objects

2003-07-23 Thread Aleksandr Guidrevitch
Hello Perrin No, IPC::Shareable is slow. You are better off with one of these: MLDBM::Sync Cache::Mmap BerkeleyDB (with native locking) Cache::FileCache Actually I think to use Cache::FileCache as the storage backend. But I need to have Cache keys to be sorted by various criteria. I strive to

Re: AW: AW: Apache:AuthenNTLM 2.01 with modperl 1.26

2003-07-23 Thread Shannon Eric Peevey
Tresp, Wilfried wrote: Hi Shannon Eric, fine it's already there. I try to run the module with Apache 2.0.47 but it didn't work here. There seems to be problems with my @INC variable but I can not figure out how to fix it. When I try to start the daemon I see only the following error message: #

Re: AW: AW: Apache:AuthenNTLM 2.01 with modperl 1.26

2003-07-23 Thread Shannon Eric Peevey
Tresp, Wilfried wrote: Hi Shannon Eric, forget my last mail. It is simply to late. After changing PerlModule to PerlResponseHandler in httpd.conf everything works now. Great! Only little problem is that I see many error_log entries like the following: [12163] the $self-{smbhandle} is 903424

RE: must I use mod-perl

2003-07-23 Thread Denis
that's the point - there is plenty of documentation. When you encounter some problem you gotta search the docs until you find solution. Docs are pretty long so it takes time. Btw from what I read here it seems that it's just me who had problems with installing mod_perl. Oskar -Original

Re: Sharing objects

2003-07-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: Actually I think to use Cache::FileCache as the storage backend. But I need to have Cache keys to be sorted by various criteria. I strive to avoid re-reading Cache::* keys and sort them each time, but to share somehow sorted lists beetween apache processes (as they

Re: [mp2] beta of Apache-AuthenNTLM uploaded

2003-07-23 Thread Brett Hales
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:51, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: The uploaded file Apache-AuthenNTLM-2.01.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/S/SP/SPEEVES/Apache-AuthenNTLM-2.01.tar.gz size: 50644 bytes md5: f175a98ea668e81df9cc8d6db629facf The purpose of this module