Re: Content management systems
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 18:22, Perrin Harkins wrote: It looks Robin Berjon is going to give an overview of CMS for mod_perl at OSCON: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2002/view/e_sess/2667 Yes, and if you have suggestions and ideas on CMSs you'd like to see included (or excluded) or on specific angles that you think I should definitely go into (90 minutes can't possibly enough to cover everything, so I'll have to prioritize things) then please do send them to me (in private mail) so that I can talk about things of greater interest to the potential audience. Thanks, -- ___ Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CTO k n o w s c a p e : // venture knowledge agency www.knowscape.com --- Those of you who think you know everything are very annoying to those of us who do.
Re: Content management systems
On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 10:17:00 -0400 Aaron Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For community sites, use Slash - the engine behind slashdot (http://www.slashcode.com) - there's even a book about it. You should also check out scoop (http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/), the engine that runs Kuro5hin.org. It's also written for modperl, and IMHO has some extra community features that makes it better than slash for more democratic sites where there are no editors like on /. who decide what stories get posted. Oh, and it does have diaries. ;-) Does anyone know of a more portal oriented engine? in addition to discussions and articles, a calendar, object level access control, polls, approval based content management. A friend has to put together a community portal site for the university he works for, on biological terrorism, no less! So far, we have been unable to find anything in perl that provides the functionality needed. The ArsDigita code seems pretty good, but it's seems to be somewhat adrift and sloppy at this point. have you looked at openacs, http://www.openacs.org? marc Zope provides lot of features, but seems to be a closed little world, ie. it's own db and it's own templating language. Anybody know of something in mod_perl with this out of the box functionality in addition to content management? -- aaron
RE: Content management systems
Looks good - if you're in San Diego. RB -Original Message- From: Perrin Harkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:23 PM To: Matthew Watson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Content management systems Matthew Watson wrote: I was wondering if there are any content management systems around for modperl , i'm after a similar kind of thing as postnuke for php. I'd much rather something 'out of the box' as I don't have time to develop a system from scratch mysql. It looks Robin Berjon is going to give an overview of CMS for mod_perl at OSCON: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2002/view/e_sess/2667 I know I'll be there. - Perrin
Re: Content management systems
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:42:31PM +0200, Maarten Stolte wrote: Anybody know of something in mod_perl with this out of the box functionality in addition to content management? Metadot bills itself as a portal product. I've even installed it briefly in the past, and it seemed relatively easy to setup customize. http://www.metadot.com/ The developer site is at http://www.metadot.net/. wow...this looks great, anybody actually use it? It's nice, but it lacks the massive power of Bricolage for it's news channels. But Metadot is extensible so it should be possible to weld the two together and make the best of both worlds. Best of all would be to marry them both with AxKit. Colin
RE: Content management systems
I hear you... I wish there were more conferences in Vancouver BC, or even Seattle. Unless I just don't here about them... On 10-Apr-2002 OCNS Consulting wrote: Looks good - if you're in San Diego. RB -Original Message- From: Perrin Harkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] It looks Robin Berjon is going to give an overview of CMS for mod_perl at OSCON: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2002/view/e_sess/2667 I know I'll be there. - Perrin Regards, Wim Kerkhoff -|- www.nyetwork.org -|- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content management systems
Heya. I was wondering if there are any content management systems around for modperl , i'm after a similar kind of thing as postnuke for php. I'd much rather something 'out of the box' as I don't have time to develop a system from scratch mysql. Regards -- Matthew Watson Development, Netspace Online Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah, the system that runs slashdot (and many other major sites), 'slashcode' is in modperl: www.slashcode.com I think the 'everything' system that runs perlmonks.org is in mod_perl too, might want to check it out (just see the perlmonks' site) Jon Coulter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Matthew Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Content management systems Heya. I was wondering if there are any content management systems around for modperl , i'm after a similar kind of thing as postnuke for php. I'd much rather something 'out of the box' as I don't have time to develop a system from scratch mysql. Regards -- Matthew Watson Development, Netspace Online Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Content management systems
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 7:53 am, Matthew Watson wrote: Heya. I was wondering if there are any content management systems around for modperl , i'm after a similar kind of thing as postnuke for php. I'd much rather something 'out of the box' as I don't have time to develop a system from scratch mysql. For community sites, use Slash - the engine behind slashdot (http://www.slashcode.com) - there's even a book about it. For large scale content management - like for a news site - check out Bricolage (http://bricolage.thepirtgroup.com/). Bricolage is built upon some of the ideas of the content management system behind Salon.com (though they seem to be talking of replacing it with a Java/Cocoon based system). -- :-get a SMart net/:-
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At 08:08 AM 4/9/02 +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: On Tuesday 09 April 2002 7:53 am, Matthew Watson wrote: Heya. I was wondering if there are any content management systems around for modperl , i'm after a similar kind of thing as postnuke for php. I'd much rather something 'out of the box' as I don't have time to develop a system from scratch mysql. For community sites, use Slash - the engine behind slashdot (http://www.slashcode.com) - there's even a book about it. You should also check out scoop (http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/), the engine that runs Kuro5hin.org. It's also written for modperl, and IMHO has some extra community features that makes it better than slash for more democratic sites where there are no editors like on /. who decide what stories get posted. Oh, and it does have diaries. ;-) Drew
Re: Content management systems
On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 16:17, Aaron Ross wrote: For community sites, use Slash - the engine behind slashdot (http://www.slashcode.com) - there's even a book about it. You should also check out scoop (http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/), the engine that runs Kuro5hin.org. It's also written for modperl, and IMHO has some extra community features that makes it better than slash for more democratic sites where there are no editors like on /. who decide what stories get posted. Oh, and it does have diaries. ;-) Does anyone know of a more portal oriented engine? in addition to discussions and articles, a calendar, object level access control, polls, approval based content management. A friend has to put together a community portal site for the university he works for, on biological terrorism, no less! So far, we have been unable to find anything in perl that provides the functionality needed. The ArsDigita code seems pretty good, but it's seems to be somewhat adrift and sloppy at this point. Zope provides lot of features, but seems to be a closed little world, ie. it's own db and it's own templating language. Anybody know of something in mod_perl with this out of the box functionality in addition to content management? -- aaron Zope has plugins to other db's, and there is lots of other apps which do what you want in php (like phpnuke), as for modperl, i don't think the people using modperl build onesizefitsall stuff as much as php people tend to do.. Maarten
RE: Content management systems
Zope has plugins to other db's, and there is lots of other apps which do what you want in php (like phpnuke), as for modperl, i don't think the people using modperl build onesizefitsall stuff as much as php people tend to do.. Thats a shame, I really wanted a one size fits all product :) hmm, looks like I might have to actually do some work...
Re: Content management systems
At 10:17 AM 4/9/02 -0400, Aaron Ross wrote: Anybody know of something in mod_perl with this out of the box functionality in addition to content management? Metadot bills itself as a portal product. I've even installed it briefly in the past, and it seemed relatively easy to setup customize. http://www.metadot.com/ The developer site is at http://www.metadot.net/. Drew == Drew Taylor JA[P|m_p]H http://www.drewtaylor.com/ Just Another Perl|mod_perl Hacker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** God bless America! *** -- Speakeasy.net: A DSL provider with a clue. Sign up today. http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/29655 ==
Re: Content management systems
Anybody know of something in mod_perl with this out of the box functionality in addition to content management? Metadot bills itself as a portal product. I've even installed it briefly in the past, and it seemed relatively easy to setup customize. http://www.metadot.com/ The developer site is at http://www.metadot.net/. wow...this looks great, anybody actually use it? Maarten
Re: Content management systems
Does anyone know of a more portal oriented engine? in addition to discussions and articles, a calendar, object level access control, polls, approval based content management. A friend has to put together a community portal site for the university he works for, on biological terrorism, no less! So far, we have been unable to find anything in perl that provides the functionality needed. well may be he could write one? IMHO that is what 'should' be done if something doesn't exist.
Re: Content management systems
Metadot is being used a lot in Schlumberger and Sema intranet websites (Sema is a large European IT company) , among many other clients. It's also being used in a big French ceramics company called St. Gobain. The Open Source version is currently lagging behind our latest (closed-source) release by about three or four months. Our closed-source version is comercially available and comprises, basically, the open-source framework plus a number of useful add-ons. We also do custom additions to the framework (in fact tailoring the software is our main business). Installing Metadot can sometimes get complicated, but is usually a straightforward process. I think Metadot internals are easy to learn and customize, as we have been improving them constantly for the last year. If you know your way around mod_perl and object oriented Perl you should be able to tailor Metadot to your liking in little time. You can also choose to program your own add-ons using the APIs we provide for that. Hope that helps, Claudio Metadot bills itself as a portal product. I've even installed it briefly in the past, and it seemed relatively easy to setup customize. http://www.metadot.com/ The developer site is at http://www.metadot.net/. wow...this looks great, anybody actually use it? Maarten
RE: Content management systems
Found this site, which has just about every major perl based cms I've run across listed, plus lots more. http://www.clueful.com.au/cgi-bin/cmsdirectory/browse/Products:Free%20sy stems Good luck, and us know what you pick and how it goes. Jim -Original Message- From: claudioprodigy.net.mx@tcp_intranet-daemon [mailto:claudioprodigy.net.mx@tcp_intranet-daemon] On Behalf Of Claudio Garcia Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:47 PM To: Maarten Stolte Cc: Drew Taylor; Aaron Ross; mod_perl list Subject: Re: Content management systems Metadot is being used a lot in Schlumberger and Sema intranet websites (Sema is a large European IT company) , among many other clients. It's also being used in a big French ceramics company called St. Gobain. The Open Source version is currently lagging behind our latest (closed-source) release by about three or four months. Our closed-source version is comercially available and comprises, basically, the open-source framework plus a number of useful add-ons. We also do custom additions to the framework (in fact tailoring the software is our main business). Installing Metadot can sometimes get complicated, but is usually a straightforward process. I think Metadot internals are easy to learn and customize, as we have been improving them constantly for the last year. If you know your way around mod_perl and object oriented Perl you should be able to tailor Metadot to your liking in little time. You can also choose to program your own add-ons using the APIs we provide for that. Hope that helps, Claudio Metadot bills itself as a portal product. I've even installed it briefly in the past, and it seemed relatively easy to setup customize. http://www.metadot.com/ The developer site is at http://www.metadot.net/. wow...this looks great, anybody actually use it? Maarten
