Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Gunther Birznieks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: America is richer than Australia. Yeah, but the food's better in Oz. Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-11 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: Gunther Birznieks [EMAIL PROTECTED], Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) That's because it's stale piss, I'm sure the beer glasses are pissed in to save money ;-) Heck, the beer is so bad nobody can possibly tell the difference anyway.

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahh, you have Budweiser in Australia too, then? ;) Worse: Fosters. -- David Hodgkinson, Wizard for Hirehttp://www.davehodgkinson.com Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com All the Purple Family Tree news

Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread gnudev
for work from home jobs and they seem to be crooks. I never get any responses. James - Original Message - From: Daniel Aldham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Franck PORCHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: Re: What hourly rate to charge

Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread Gunther Birznieks
C'mon guys remember to add OT to your off topic messages! It's not that hard. :) At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5 per hour) for my mod_perl programming... You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My

Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread brian moseley
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know where I can get paid more than AU$10/hour (US$4.90 to US$5 per hour) for my mod_perl programming... You guys in America get $100US per hour?! My god, I'm in the wrong country...

Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread gnudev
. - Original Message - From: brian moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming? On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote: At 05:14 PM 10/10/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread gnudev
Still, the beer sucks in both ;-) That's because it's stale piss, I'm sure the beer glasses are pissed in to save money ;-) Heck, the beer is so bad nobody can possibly tell the difference anyway.

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread gnudev
Ahh, you have Budweiser in Australia too, then? ;) Worse: Fosters. And imitation Guiness. Also Tooheys, (Four-X, rednecked Queensland favourite), Hahn, etc. Home-brew kits are extremely popular. Australians are the Leonardo Da Vinci's of piss artists - master strokes in the beer

RE: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread Purcell, Scott
away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 8:41 AM To: brian moseley; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming? Yes, they probably have tons of experience too, which I don't have

Re: [OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread Mark Maunder
Purcell, Scott wrote: What kind of thread is this? I ask a question about modperl on NT and I get riddled from the list for using NT. Then we have a thread that goes for two days about hourly charges? What did you expect? You shoulda been using Win2K! *duck*

Re: [VERY OT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-10 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And imitation Guiness. Also Tooheys, (Four-X, rednecked Queensland favourite), Hahn, etc. Home-brew imitation guinness is still better than any of the rest. altho when it's not available i a quite happy with vb!

Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-09 Thread Daniel Aldham
Hello, Many factors are to be taken into account to establish a base line. As you say, experience is one. It determines the experience you will provide your client with: your ability to solve their problems, to meet their requirements, to react to constraints, be technical or not, to

Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-08 Thread Franck PORCHER
Hello, Many factors are to be taken into account to establish a base line. As you say, experience is one. It determines the experience you will provide your client with: your ability to solve their problems, to meet their requirements, to react to constraints, be technical or not, to innovate,

Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-03 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
Philip Mak wrote, asking about whether he's chargin the right hourly rate. He describes his background as: I've had about two years of experience with perl, and one year of experience with mod_perl and MySQL. Business was so-so for me last month; everybody froze up. I feel for you if

[OT] Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-03 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi, you might want to check the past issues of Linux Journal, there was a series of articles on becoming a consultant / independent programmer a few months ago. -- ___ Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CTO k n o w s c a p e

[OT] Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-03 Thread Perrin Harkins
Now take the amount you want to make and divide it by the number of hours you came up with above ($40,000 / 1,000). You get $40. That's your target hourly rate. And despite what they high-flying .com weanies were saying a year ago, that's going to be a nice living for a young guy unless

Re: [OT] Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-03 Thread ed phillips
Perrin Harkins wrote: Now take the amount you want to make and divide it by the number of hours you came up with above ($40,000 / 1,000). You get $40. That's your target hourly rate. And despite what they high-flying .com weanies were saying a year ago, that's going to be a nice

Re: [OT] Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-03 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
Now take the amount you want to make and divide it by the number of hours you came up with above ($40,000 / 1,000). You get $40. That's your target hourly rate. $40K as a consultant is much less spendable money than $40K as an employee. Yes, that's an additional 7.5% for social

Re: [OT] Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-03 Thread RaFaL Pocztarski
Hi, This thread is very off-topic here but it's interresting and maybe it should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or somewhere else. I think a lot of people have many problems with all of those public-relations matters, especially when they want to start working as an independent programmer. A big

What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-02 Thread Philip Mak
I've had about two years of experience with perl, and one year of experience with mod_perl and MySQL. I've been doing contract programming jobs for people and charged by the hour. The rate I currently charge them ($40) was kind of chosen randomly. I'd like to find out if this figure is too

Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-02 Thread Michael Bacarella
I've had about two years of experience with perl, and one year of experience with mod_perl and MySQL. I've been doing contract programming jobs for people and charged by the hour. The rate I currently charge them ($40) was kind of chosen randomly. I'd like to find out if this figure is too

Re: [VOT] What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-02 Thread Gunther Birznieks
Hey guys..MASSIVELY OFF TOPIC!! :( :( :( At 12:24 AM 10/3/2001 -0400, Michael Bacarella wrote: I've had about two years of experience with perl, and one year of experience with mod_perl and MySQL. I've been doing contract programming jobs for people and charged by the hour. The

Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-02 Thread Medi Montaseri
Well put...and one more itemwhen you invoice your customer, say net 30, they intentially sit on it for 60 days, then cut and date the check on the 61st day, then keep it in their desk for another two weeks, so what out for cash flow and future value of money On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Michael

Re: What hourly rate to charge for programming?

2001-10-02 Thread Bryan T. Schmidt
I've had about two years of experience with perl, and one year of experience with mod_perl and MySQL. I've been doing contract programming jobs for people and charged by the hour. The rate I currently charge them ($40) was kind of chosen randomly. I'd like to find out if this figure is too