Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread J. Peng
coding from perl to python is easy,at least it's easy for me. but,as many guys have said to me, from python to perl is not easy. perl's many features,like the rich built-in variables and context,are not so easy to be accetable by newbies. //joy On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Aaron Trevena <[EM

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-1.31 RC3

2008-02-26 Thread Issac Goldstand
win32 (xp sp2, vc6 - no SDK upgrade) - Apache 1.41 binary - ActivePerl 5.10 (build 1002) FAIL (sorry, folks) Segfault at startup. last line in mod_perl-land: mod_perl.c : 704 status = perl_parse(perl, mod_perl_xs_init, argc, argv, NULL); I can't download the AS perl source - it keeps st

Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-1.31 RC3

2008-02-26 Thread Fred Moyer
> The mod_perl 1.31 release candidate 3 "Works with Perl 5.10" is ready. It > can be downloaded here: > > http://www.apache.org/~gozer/mp1/mod_perl-1.31-rc3.tar.gz Works with 5.8.8 also, darwin 10.5, apache 1.3.41 Files=37, Tests=405, 5 wallclock secs ( 3.20 cusr + 0.60 csys = 3.80 CPU) +1

[ANNOUNCE] Apache-Reload 0.10

2008-02-26 Thread Fred Moyer
Apache::Reload 0.10 has been uploaded to your nearest CPAN mirror. md5: 1d89841153b76b384e08479e3e26082a Changes include unreleased updates to 0.08 and 0.09. The Apache::Reload package contains modules for mod_perl1 and mod_perl2. Thanks to Matt Sergeant for donating Apache-Reload to the ASF.

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread Aaron Trevena
On 26/02/2008, Michael Lackhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course you are right, Perl is totally up to the task, that's why we > are here, aren't we? ;-) > The other posters are also right, there is lots of community, lots of > CPAN and still enough books... > > ...but > Perl is no longer

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread Michael Lackhoff
On 26.02.2008 16:01 André Warnier wrote: If I may contribute a modest opinion : this whole thread started, I believe, because someone wrote that Amazon may move away from perl and may go in the direction of Java. How many of us, honestly, will some day have to create or run a website that sees

RE: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread Ronald Dai.
Wellpersonally I am perl+java...started with C/C++ about 20 years ago though (fortran before that)...don't feel problem with dotnet.so I won't say too much then From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 2/26/2008 11:05 AM To: Ron

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread Charles A. Monteiro
did not get your Java yet :), alright too corny could not resist :) from an outsider's perspective it seems to me that the Perl/Python/PHP/Ruby , have had such great success in the web space including great reusability that I can't fathom why somebody rational would consider Java as a repla

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread David Scott
You're no doubt right, my ANY referred to the Perl/Python/PHP/Ruby family, not Java and Smalltalk. I hadn't had my coffee yet, hope I wasn't too incoherent... d Charles A. Monteiro wrote: sory to intrude but this just caught my eye, that statement is contrary to the evidence, lots of "smart"

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread Charles A. Monteiro
sory to intrude but this just caught my eye, that statement is contrary to the evidence, lots of "smart" people did not , have not made the paradigm shift to OO, they say they do but many code in OO languages in very non OO ways. It was not mentioned but moving over from one OO language to an

RE: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread Ronald Dai.
Agree with this sentence "Any developer with a solid object-oriented background in ANY of these languages can move comfortably into ANY of the others within a few days.".and I think any smart person with good common sense would understand OO in no time...

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread André Warnier
If I may contribute a modest opinion : this whole thread started, I believe, because someone wrote that Amazon may move away from perl and may go in the direction of Java. How many of us, honestly, will some day have to create or run a website that sees even 10% of the traffic and load of the

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread David Scott
I've seen that too. Some engineering managers have an absolute phobia when it comes to Perl. But some of these same managers turn right around and extol the virtues of Ruby. Go figure. As far as I can tell, beyond a lot of syntactic sugar the two are virtually indistinguishable - except tha

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread J. Peng
I like Perl than others. once a company wanted to hire me and gave me much higher salary than the current job. But one of their conditions is not permit to use perl, but use python instead. I'm familiar with python too, but I hate that clause. So I gave up that job finally.:) On Tue, Feb 26, 2008

Re: Amazon

2008-02-26 Thread Aaron Trevena
On 23/02/2008, Michael Lackhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Perl usage is declining. I read some statistics from O'Reilly and > they showed that Perl book sales are going down. > A few years ago the 'P' in LAMP clearly was 'Perl', now it is 'PHP' > in most cases. Developers tend to

[RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-1.31 RC3

2008-02-26 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
The mod_perl 1.31 release candidate 3 "Works with Perl 5.10" is ready. It can be downloaded here: http://www.apache.org/~gozer/mp1/mod_perl-1.31-rc3.tar.gz MD5: 979059e20febef686e7c2a4d55fe3683 SHA1: c747ef7d605694ca935795ea7793ea7c77dfa920 The summary of what has changed since 1.30 are (from