> Message du 27/03/09 07:09
> De : "Phil Van"
> A : modperl@perl.apache.org
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> Objet : modperl or php? Re: decline and fall of modperl?
>
> daily traffic: 100,000 - 500,000 unique sessions (medium to medium-large
> sites)
> => modperl in a cluster environment
>
me again: modperl as we
Hi,
daily traffic: 20,000 - 100,000 unique sessions (medium sites)
=> Php + an efficient caching system
=> modperl, but not based on Mason or such "application toolkits"
I don't agree: I had a website running with 20.000 visitors/day,
build with Mason (MasonX::Webapp), split into 180 fronte
From: David Ihnen
> en the newer perl modules on cpan started to use OOP, and I guess this is
because OOP is better, even though under perl it usually
> makes the programs run slower.
> Perl's speed, even under oop, is good enough. OOP makes the libraries
easier to maintain and exten
From: "Chris Prather"
Perl is a funny animal. It doesn't have a formal support for interfaces,
but it suppports multiple class inheritance. It also has - for a very
long time now - support for closures, which I find very interesting (few
Java developers even heard of it).
Moose supports Roles
From: "David Ihnen"
Why it is bad that a language like PHP is more useful for more
programmers?
Because then they start thinking they're software engineers instead of
just programmers. They get credibility, without having earned it through
good engineering. They propagate their half-baked co
You are right. Sorry for the last few messages.
I think that we all know that there are differences between the software market
in different countries, and that it is much harder to promote perl in the
countries which are not so much developed.
Octavian
--
Octavian
- Original Message --
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> It seems that Perl is beaten by this new atitude, and the fact that it
> is a better language doesn't help too much.
Haven't we all learnt from Bush, that the best people don't always make
President?
> If the program is hard enough protected, most users won't be able to g
Great to hear that! My experience, that programs written in application
frameworks usually take more memory and CPU resources to run, is based on
old versions. The new ones may have been improved very much in this area.
PV
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Rolf Schaufelberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> d
FWIW, I'm enjoying this diverting discussion and think it should stay
here. Clearly, its an organic outgrowth meeting a need of the other
business in this list.
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 10:35 +0200, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> From: David Ihnen
> > > en the newer perl modules on cpan started
- Original Message
> From: john edstrom
> To: Octavian Rasnita
> Cc: modperl
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13:18 PM
> Subject: Re: decline and fall of modperl?
>
> FWIW, I'm enjoying this diverting discussion and think it should stay
> here. Clearly, its an organic outgrowth meet
- Original Message
> From: john edstrom
> To: Joe Schaefer
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:21:08 PM
> Subject: Re: decline and fall of modperl?
>
> If you say so. I'll respect that, but I don't agree with it. I already
> subscribe to about 30 mail lists and won't subscribe to the a
From: "Joe Schaefer"
Comparative analysis of programming languages has nothing whatsoever to
do with modperl, or even anything to do with the real needs of this
community
of users. It's simply an exercise in argumentation based on personal
experience alone by people who have absolutely no kno
- Original Message
> From: Octavian Râsnita
> To: modperl
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:25:44 PM
> Subject: Re: decline and fall of modperl?
>
> From: "Joe Schaefer"
> > Comparative analysis of programming languages has nothing whatsoever to
> > do with modperl, or even anythin
From: "Joe Schaefer"
The original message that started this thread was:
"""
> One of our customers is doing a detailed review of a mason/modperl ERP
> app
we've built for them since 2001. Prodded by some
> buzzword-compliant consultants they are expressing concerns that the
> app's
underlyi
- Original Message
> From: Octavian Râsnita
> To: modperl
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 5:26:43 PM
> Subject: Re: decline and fall of modperl?
>
> From: "Joe Schaefer"
> > The original message that started this thread was:
> >
> > """
> > > One of our customers is doing a detailed
On Mar 27, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
- Original Message
From: Octavian Râsnita
To: modperl
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 5:26:43 PM
Subject: Re: decline and fall of modperl?
From: "Joe Schaefer"
The original message that started this thread was:
"""
One of our custome
- Original Message
> From: David Stewart
> To: modperl
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:39:08 PM
> Subject: Re: decline and fall of modperl?
> I'm not really sure why it wouldn't be a good idea to try and educate
> consultants about the value of Perl / mod_perl.
That's called advoca
On Mar 27, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
That's called advocacy, and as I said before, there's a mailing list
set
up for that for people who actually want to *do* some of that
instead of
issue general gripes on a thread called "decline and fall of
mod_perl".
I don't mean to sugg
For those of you here who like to write some open source code on the
weekends, here are a couple of modules the mod_perl development team
are close to releasing. Take one of them for a spin and run the test
suite, and report back.
perl Makefile.PL && make && make test
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:2
Fred,
both build cleanly and pass all tests on my laptop with perl 5.8.8 on
gentoo linux amd64. I'll build them on x86_64 tomorrow, and i can test
on solaris on monday.
Adam
Fred Moyer wrote:
> For those of you here who like to write some open source code on the
> weekends, here are a couple
From: "Joe Schaefer"
A contribution to a *community* would be to offer gratis advice on a
mailing list, ostensibly to help the community reach its objectives.
Nothing I see in this thread looks like a contribution to the mod_perl
community, sorry.
The mod_perl community is also made of those w
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