Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Peters
On 06/16/2011 12:01 AM, Fred Moyer wrote: I'll start. I have a couple of Apache::Dispatch based applications I wrote. I also work on an Apache::ASP large codebase, and a couple of different Catalyst based systems. All are running on mod_perl 2.0.4 in production (the ops haven't upgraded to

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Anton Petrusevich
I'm interested in hearing about what application frameworks (Catalyst, CGI::App, Mojolicious) are used here with mod_perl. Currently, I use plain mod_perl2 2.0.4 with apache2 for a project about 10k LOC on the web side and about 32k application's LOC. I would like to know a better framework

apache2 or mod_perl2 oddball error

2011-06-16 Thread William Bulley
I'm not sure this is the best place to ask about this problem, and this is my first posting to this mailing list. I have already asked the freebsd-questions mailing list about this, but have received no replies as of this writing. I'm running FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jun 9 09:25:05 EDT 2011

Re: apache2 or mod_perl2 oddball error

2011-06-16 Thread Fred Moyer
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:28 AM, William Bulley w...@umich.edu wrote: The httpd.conf file is unchanged and was working since from before the upgrade. In the /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf file are these lines among several hundred other lines:   LoadModule perl_module

Re: apache2 or mod_perl2 oddball error

2011-06-16 Thread William Bulley
According to Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com on Thu, 06/16/11 at 13:56: Hmm, odd that it wouldn't work under 2.0.5 but it would under 2.0.4. My point exactly... :-( No idea why offhand. Do you use a startup.pl in your application? No. The application's URL points to a directory with

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com wrote: I'm interested in hearing about what application frameworks (Catalyst, CGI::App, Mojolicious) are used here with mod_perl. Mason 1.x on mod_perl 1.x and apache 1.x, baby! - Perrin

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 16, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com wrote: I'm interested in hearing about what application frameworks (Catalyst, CGI::App, Mojolicious) are used here with mod_perl. Mason 1.x on mod_perl 1.x and apache 1.x,

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:07 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: Whatever old man! I know, it's just a reality of working on applications that have been around for years. These tools are so reliable that they tend to stick around. If I started something new I would probably use

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Fred Moyer
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:07 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: Whatever old man! I know, it's just a reality of working on applications that have been around for years.  These tools are so reliable that

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Fred Moyer
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Daniel Risacher mag...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Of late, I've been wanting to go to PSGI or node.js, but I haven't taken the plunge yet.  Many of my mod_perl apps relied on client-side PKI and SSL renegotiation, which I don't think can be done in PSGI, (or at least

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Peters
On 06/16/2011 04:18 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: Maybe I'm not completely grokking how people are starting new projects using Plack, but it seems like the way to go is to not use Plack itself to write the code, but to use one of the many web frameworks (Mason2, Catalyst, Mojolicious) and then use

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com To: Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com Cc: David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com; mod_perl list modperl@perl.apache.org Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 4:18:17 PM Subject: Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application? On

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread js5
- Original Message From: Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com To: Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com Cc: David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com; mod_perl list modperl@perl.apache.org Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 4:18:17 PM Subject: Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application? On

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com wrote: Maybe I'm not completely grokking how people are starting new projects using Plack, but it seems like the way to go is to not use Plack itself to write the code, but to use one of the many web frameworks (Mason2,

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Fred Moyer
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Sigh.  The big win with mod_perl2 is you get to interface with the rest of the C modules for httpd, often via subrequests.  At the ASF we've been running mod_perl2 as our frontline mailserver for over 5y This is

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com To: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: mod_perl list modperl@perl.apache.org Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 5:01:49 PM Subject: Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application? On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Joe

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Fred Moyer
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Michael Peters mpet...@plusthree.com wrote: I'd like to see the performance of Starman vs mod_perl for normal applications (that don't need to do anything fancy with Apache). If it's anywhere close to mod_perl than I suspect lots of people would use it instead

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread greg . george
Hi Fred, I use mod_perl on a custom built framework written back in 2005 Performance of mod_perl has never been an issue, internal authenication and network speed are more issues. This runs on an intranet and services around 5000 users Regards Greg George From: Fred Moyer

Re: How do you use mod_perl for your web application?

2011-06-16 Thread Cees Hek
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com wrote: I'm interested in hearing about what application frameworks (Catalyst, CGI::App, Mojolicious) are used here with mod_perl. We have a lot of code using CGI::App as well as a mix of in-house custom frameworks (old legacy