Re: [MOPO] FAKES-Thing's Will Improve In The Hobby

2009-10-02 Thread dsonesheets
Does anyone even KNOW if the authorities have been engaged on this issue? Even if it's just the local police department? A lot of people are using "FBI" and the "authorities" in their emails, but are they really involved and "investigating" anything??? Steve On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM, wrot

Re: [MOPO] ebay item.....................................

2009-10-02 Thread James Richard
I have regularly heard the word 'patina' also used by experts in describing the finish of antique wood furniture, porcelain and all kinds of other physical objects of art. Applying it to a poster is questionable, but I suppose one could use it to describe the look of the surface... i.e., that t

Re: [MOPO] An email from John Davis/Poster Mountain

2009-10-02 Thread James Richard
Steve, You are right on all points. In the past, after the outrage subsided, things went on just as before. This time may be different for a couple of reasons: 1) A *lot* more money was lost on these high-end fakes. Millions of dollars by some accounts. 2) The reports coming out clearly sh

Re: [MOPO] FAKES-Thing's Will Improve In The Hobby

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
yes FBI At 10:06 PM 10/1/2009, dsonesheets wrote: Does anyone even KNOW if the authorities have been engaged on this issue? Even if it's just the local police department? A lot of people are using "FBI" and the "authorities" in their emails, but are they really involved and "investigating"

Re: [MOPO] FAKES-Thing's Will Improve In The Hobby

2009-10-02 Thread Simon Oram
Do the FBI have experts on authenticating movie posters: I presume they have to determine themselves, if it is fake or not, or do they have to go outside the bureau to get help and if so who would they seek help from? Simon - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To:

Re: [MOPO] An email from John Davis/Poster Mountain

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Evans
JR, I believe you just outed Heritage. On 2 Oct 2009, at 07:35, James Richard wrote: Steve, You are right on all points. In the past, after the outrage subsided, things went on just as before. This time may be different for a couple of reasons: 1) A *lot* more money was lost on these hig

Re: [MOPO] An email from John Davis/Poster Mountain

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Evans
Hi Grey, You mean his statement is untrue, specifically in regards to any loss to Heritage? If so, accepted. Are you also denying fakes inadvertently passed through Heritage? I wasn't clear on that bit. On 2 Oct 2009, at 16:17, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: Richard JR reads between the lines!

Re: [MOPO] An email from John Davis/Poster Mountain

2009-10-02 Thread Smith, Grey - 1367
Richard JR reads between the lines! His statement is untrue in regards to a loss to Heritage due to fakes. On Oct 2, 2009, at 9:24 AM, "Richard Evans" <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: JR, I believe you just outed Heritage. O

[MOPO] Never thought I'd see the day....

2009-10-02 Thread Stephen Fishler
when counterfeit vintage 1-sheets and lobbies were circulating through the hobby. On the other hand, I've always looked at vintage stills and photos as a major potential area for fraud. And as I look at these same items popping up in numerous auctions, it makes me wonder. Visit

Re: [MOPO] Never thought I'd see the day....

2009-10-02 Thread Bruce Hershenson
Hasn't PIH been auctioning massive numbers of vintage stills of all sizes? Hm. Well, as long as they have been authenticated, I guess there is nothing to worry about. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Stephen Fishler < steph...@metropoliscomics.com> wrote: > when counterfeit vintage 1-sh

Re: [MOPO] DRACULA-gate and Profile's Part in it

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Evans
If it's offset, remove a 0. On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:58, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: JR and Mopo This whole incident just spotlights the fact that it is getting damn near impossible for someone to authenticate a linen-backed poster (or a card stock-based poster that has had its original card s

Re: [MOPO] Never thought I'd see the day....

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Evans
You did though, see it. Can't help wondering that if you hadn't, whether the rest of us ever would have seen the day. On 2 Oct 2009, at 16:49, Stephen Fishler wrote: when counterfeit vintage 1-sheets and lobbies were circulating through the hobby. On the other hand, I've always looked

Re: [MOPO] Never thought I'd see the day....

2009-10-02 Thread Stephen Fishler
Was not meant as a dig at any one party. Just another reason to be vigilant. On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Hasn't PIH been auctioning massive numbers of vintage stills of all sizes? Hm. Well, as long as they have been authenticated, I guess there is nothi

[MOPO] DRACULA-what restorer INITIALLY altered the poster?

2009-10-02 Thread Jeff Potokar
This has been a fascinating (and sad) discussion about the fakes, the forgeries being made, with the DRACULA one sheet discussed as the most recent example. In reading the posts from all of those in the know, there hasnt been any talk (if known) about who the ORIGINAL "restorer" was who fir

Re: [MOPO] FAKES-Thing's Will Improve In The Hobby

2009-10-02 Thread Jeff Potokar
Excellent post Susan... until all the facts are known and proven... innuendo and rumor cannot be relied upon. As was mentioned a month or so ago, maybe Jaime has been advised NOT to speak out on the matter. Until all the cards are on the table, he cannot be "convicted." I am not defending h

Re: [MOPO] Never thought I'd see the day....

2009-10-02 Thread Jeff Potokar
I was looking at PIH's online catalog... they seem to also auction a lot of autographed photos.. and havent forged signatures been around for years (whether it be photos, baseballs, basketballs, etc)? Jeff On Oct 2, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Hasn't PIH been auctioning

Re: [MOPO] DRACULA-what restorer INITIALLY altered the poster?

2009-10-02 Thread Diane Jeffrey
Hi Jeff - For your benefit, I am re-posting the following: When we received the poster, the majority of the thick cardboard had already been stripped away, leaving a thin layer on the back. Before cleaning and linenbacking to occur, it is crucial that any tape, paper, glue, duck tape, cardboar

Re: [MOPO] Never thought I'd see the day....

2009-10-02 Thread jim episale
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[MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Stephen Fishler
Sure, John at Poster Mountain screwed up. Having said that, scrapping his authentication service is a huge mistake. His problem is that he rolled it out too quickly. There were certain factors and elements that he needed to incorporate which he clearly didn't...and that led to the situati

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
a true forensics lab with expensive spectro-analysis equipment chemical testing equipment people who know printing and know inks people who can test the glues and people who know and have a record of all known legal reproductions you know, when a crime lab does analysis of a tire tread, they ha

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Mat McCarthy
I completely agree that some sort of service is important and that the work John was doing has value. I was there and saw how much work he put into it and how much progress he made. It seems he did make a mistake on the 'Dracula' poster because he was looking into one area and not another/othe

[MOPO] FA: Heritage: Psycho, Hard Day's Night, You Only Live Twice, Invisible Boy, Lone Ranger, more

2009-10-02 Thread Carteron, Bruce - 1551
There are 435 lots in this week's Heritage Internet Auction. We are featuring a great selection of original movie posters, lobby cards and stills. The auction closes this Sunday, October 4th at 10pm CT. http://movieposters.ha.com/?ic=task-movieposters To view all 435 items, please click here: ht

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Bruce Hershenson
I have never ever dealt with Poster Mountain or John Davis directly, but whenever I have been consigned a poster that was super-well linenbacked in the past few years and I would ask the consignor who backed it, and if it was not backed by Studio C, it almost always was backed by Poster Mountain, a

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
Mat I agree that John was trying to help the hobby. However, what he did do because he was not as experienced in some areas of forensic discovery was muddy the water for all the lawsuits. It would probably have been a good idea for him to recognize that this was something beyond his ability and

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
At 03:34 PM 10/2/2009, dli...@aol.com wrote: why don't YOU start one!!! you know more about printing than anyone Dave, I know nothing about forensics, I do not have a lab or expertise in discovering fakes authenticating this material needs scientific training and neither my art training,

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Andrea Kanter
Maybe someone at the Smithsonian could advise Andrea On Oct 2, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: At 03:34 PM 10/2/2009, dli...@aol.com wrote: why don't YOU start one!!! you know more about printing than anyone Dave, I know nothing about forensics, I do not have a l

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art
At 03:45 PM 10/2/2009, Andrea Kanter wrote: Maybe someone at the Smithsonian could advise Andrea that is definitely the idea..I think I said something like that days ago Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Andrea Kanter
Sorry, Rich. Look, there is obviously an opening for a niche business here and this list has much of the intense knowledge that's required.Also, somewhere on this list, is the funding that will be needed. A gathering of great talents and equipment will be essential to success. Neces

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art & Movie Posters
what's top be sorry about Darlin?? you are right on the money.. we need a Smithsonian to do the work as they have a gathering of experts and we need an Indian tracker on this.. No one person has the skills needed to resolve this Rich At 04:33 PM 10/2/2009, Andrea Kanter wrote: Sorry, Rich.

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia
It is obvious that everyone has learnt something out of all of this and the end result is that auction houses will now have more knowledge and guidance on how best to authenticate posters. However, one thing that seems to have been missed is the importance of provenance. Autograph dealers atta

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2009-10-02 Thread Alan Adler
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Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Tom Martin
Hello Folks.. well I know afew the people at the Library of Congress , and the Smithsonian, and some other archivists that specialize in Film . The paper posters I would suggest some of the Best are people Like Morrie and Sue and Ed Poole and Rudy, and various dealers like Ron Borst, and Steven

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art & Movie Posters
aside from the fact that everything said here is one part of the solution and a lab is needed for chemical blah blah as I stated before.. I noticed this post is coherent, non-rambling and has few typos.. so I have to ask who are you sir, and where is the real Tom Martin??? At 07:00 PM 1

Re: [MOPO] Authentication Service

2009-10-02 Thread Tom Martin
coffee from digbys... Its make me feel more focused and alighned as Im ADD and it makes me Like a lazer beam in thought details. OR.perhaps my metamorphing into a jedi knight Templar?? ehhh could be. :) Richard Halegua Comic Art & Movie Posters wrote: aside from the fact that

[MOPO] Dracula-John Davis-Final thoughts

2009-10-02 Thread Diane Jeffrey
I have known John Davis, probably longer than anyone. I first knew him when he was, basically a kid, working at Picture Perfect. During those days, during many employer/employee relation problems, I usually found myself in the middle, in most cases, trying to defend the rights of the employee

[MOPO] 6 sht linen backing quote, please

2009-10-02 Thread Doug Taylor
Looking for a great quote to linen back a 6 sht...not a particularly valuable poster, just nice art for a large office wall. Thank you to any who reply. DBT Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___

[MOPO] 6 sht linen back quote

2009-10-02 Thread Doug Taylor
I'm looking for quotes to LB a 6 sht. The poster is nothing fancy, just nice art for a large office wall. Thanks to any who reply. Regards DBT Profile Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com